I could use some opinions/perspectives about this situation. I have been with my h for 3 years, married for 1. We are in our 30s. My h has always been a bit high on the worry/anxiety spectrum. He is an extreme planner and often finds the unexpected to be challenging for him. I have been aware of this since I first met him and it hasn't posed a big problem for us. I am more laid back and have an avoidant personality, so we tend to balance each other out.
However, he has been having some job stress lately and seems to get angry/overwhelmed so easily. When he is mad/frustrated/upset he slams things around (throws his wallet/phone down, slams items on the counter, throws things into the sink, punches doors/walls). Last night he told me that he has always had a tendency to deal with anger this way-he would bloody his knuckles a few times a month as a teen.
I HATE when he acts this way. To be clear: he never gets mad/frustrated/upset with me or anything I have done. He has never-not even once-in 3 years raised his voice to me, spoken disrespectfully to me or even made a snide/snippy comment. He never criticizes me, etc. These outbursts occur when he is mad at himself or frustrated with unexpected changes from outside forces.
Is this something I just need to learn to live with or do I have the right to ask him to make a real effort to make changes? I saw these outburst two or three times before we were married, but with the new stressors it has been like two to three times in the last few months. I am not afraid of him and he does not take his anger out on anyone around him. Even so, when it happens, I get tense and jittery and I hate feeling that way.
Do I need to stop making this about me? He is willing to go to counseling (which he needs for his anxiety), but sometimes I worry that I am overly critical of his behavior. Is this something I just need to accept as part of taking the bad with the good?
My husband is similar although not as extreme when he is stressed, I think it's an ok thing to work on together and individually. It's not healthy, for one, and if/ when you have kids they need to learn how to appropriately deal with stress and anger as well.
Ok. First off, it is never ok to break things in my house just because you're pissed. No matter what happened.
That being said? The fiance's parents never took down the giant punching bag they have in their basement, and during some extremely tough times in his life I have heard him banging away on that thing for a while, and it relieves his stress. So, perhaps he needs a better outlet for his stress.
I don't know that you are overreacting, but you are worried, because he is important to you and you care about him. Have him go to a few sessions with the psych. They may not see a reason to keep him in therapy, or they might come up with some tools he can use to address his stress/anxiety. Regardless? It can't hurt.
Post by SpicedApplePie on May 25, 2012 11:12:44 GMT -5
Honestly, I think he would benefit from a handful of therapy sessions about managing anger/frustration/stress. It sounds like his reactions, while not pleasant, are also not threatening. I bet it would take a little work and perseverance, but he could find other ways to express his anger. If he is willing to go to counseling, then he should go.
Thanks for the replies. I think my main concern is that he is so accepting of me exactly the way I am. He never asks me to be anything else or makes me feel like I am not good enough the way I am. My mom is very critical and nit-picky. I just don't want to fall into that pattern of treating my spouse that way.
I think you can tell him his behavior bothers you, and you can ask him to try to change how he reacts to stress. But I think that IF he changes, it's going to be a long process because this is how he's dealt with stress for 15+ years - it's going to take a long time to break that habit.
Some people are wired with a need to physically respond to stress. Maybe, instead of punching walls, he can punch a punching bag. Or maybe you can convince him to go for a run or do pushups or something - something that's still "physical" but not "violent."
Post by BieberMyBalls on May 25, 2012 11:20:57 GMT -5
Punching walls, and throwing things, is not a healthy way to let out stress and frustration, whether it's directed at other people or not. Not to say your H is a bad guy, hell, I'm guilty of flying off the handle sometimes too. But it's not ok to make your spouse, or anyone else feel uncomfortable when you're having a bad day, and I can't imagine he feels too great after he's had an outburst either. You can't change him. If this is how he wants to act, then this is how he is going to act. It sounds like he does want help though, so counceling may not be a bad idea. It could help him learn different, more effective ways to de-stress, and let out frustration.
And ditto whoever mentioned adding kids to the mix. It may not scare you, but to a child, seeing Daddy smashing shit around like he's the fucking hulk is going to cause some fear and anxiety. Not the role model they need when learning how to handle emotion.
No, you can't ask him to change. You are, though, entitled to live in a home environment that makes you feel safe, welcome and valued. If his actions don't support this, then it's time for a tak. Sounds like he needs some counseling to me.
Post by vivaladiva on May 25, 2012 11:22:27 GMT -5
I react the way your husband reacts to stuff; I'm just the more dramatic of the two of us. I haven't broken anything, but I have hurled oven mitts and other soft things in the general direction of the wall out of frustration. I get into funks and pull myself out of them and H stands by and accepts that I yam what I yam, and I'll come to my senses in a little bit. If it's bothering you, it's about your reaction to his reactions (if that makes sense); the fact that he's wants to change and therefore will consider anger counseling, is great and you can support him all the way, you're already there. It would be different if you were forcing him to seek professional help; that never works out if the person isn't willing in the first place.
You need to tell him that it makes you uncomfortable and the violence isn't okay in the house. That you understand his stress but would prefer it if he channels it into something constructive to minimize it, like an exercise program.
Running is good. Elliptical, stairs, etc. Things that exhaust him.
My husband is similar although not as extreme when he is stressed, I think it's an ok thing to work on together and individually. It's not healthy, for one, and if/ when you have kids they need to learn how to appropriately deal with stress and anger as well.
He needs to find a positive outlet for his stress... I like the punching bag idea. Or maybe he needs some anti-anxiety meds. I think you are right in your realm of wife to talk to him about it and tell him how it makes you feel. I would not want my children seeing something like that. Is he open at all to change?
Punching walls, and throwing things, is not a healthy way to let out stress and frustration, whether it's directed at other people or not. Not to say your H is a bad guy, hell, I'm guilty of flying off the handle sometimes too. But it's not ok to make your spouse, or anyone else feel uncomfortable when you're having a bad day, and I can't imagine he feels too great after he's had an outburst either. You can't change him. If this is how he wants to act, then this is how he is going to act. It sounds like he does want help though, so counceling may not be a bad idea. It could help him learn different, more effective ways to de-stress, and let out frustration.
And ditto whoever mentioned adding kids to the mix. It may not scare you, but to a child, seeing Daddy smashing shit around like he's the fucking hulk is going to cause some fear and anxiety. Not the role model they need when learning how to handle emotion.
This. My dad punched walls and broke things when he would get pissed and it seriously fucked me up as a kid which led me to avoiding any and all confrontation growing up, not to mention gave me no desire to have any kind of relationship with him.
This is not ok behavior, he needs counseling/anger management.
You need to tell him that it makes you uncomfortable and the violence isn't okay in the house. That you understand his stress but would prefer it if he channels it into something constructive to minimize it, like an exercise program.
Running is good. Elliptical, stairs, etc. Things that exhaust him.
I agree with this. When I am really angry/stressed/worried nothing makes me feel better then going to the gym. Without fail I always leave the gym less angry/stressed/worried then when I went in and feel like I'm in a better position to address the issue.
the key is for you to keep perspective (your OP sounds like it is) and not to characterize his behavior when you do it, if you want to be heard. as in "when you [insert action], it makes me feel [insert emotion]. i would appreciate if you could minimize [action]." i'm oversimplifying here, but essentially you can't charge at him with "you're an out of control freakshow!" not that you were going to say that, but you get my drift.
and then the next key is to REALLY listen to what he says in response and then REALLY observe what he actually does--over weeks, months. not just days.