I don't think asking for an apology is lame. It lets the other person know a line has been crossed.
Then use words to communicate. " honey, you know I had a shitty childhood and low self esteem, that really hurt my feelings" vs " you need to apologize!" Which one will get you a, closer with your mate, and b, a sincere response?
If you really must know, my exact words were "DH, you know I worked hard to take today off. That really hurt my feelings. I would appreciate it if you would apologize."
But whatever. Looks like I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.
That would hurt my feelings too ae, and no one here knows the in-and-outs of your marriage or how the exact conversation went. I also grew up being criticized all the time and I have a hard time with negative comments, and I take it out on my husband sometimes (not fair to him) which he calls me out on and then we talk about it. It doesn't sound like you guys have that going on, so I would say it's time to sit down and talk about all of it when you are both NOT in the heat of the moment and discuss things. I'm sorry your day started like that, but don't let it ruin the day.
It sounds like both you and your DH have a lot of resentment building up and could use a good clearing of the air.
I don't think it's unreasonable that you asked for an apology if he really hurt your feelings, and I think his response was not okay. But I also think it's really strange that you then threw out that you're leaving for the weekend. That seems really over-the-top for what appears to be a snippy little morning exchange. And if you do follow through on your threat, when you get back Sunday evening, not a darn thing is resolved and you're still in the same relationship you were when you left Friday afternoon. What good does that do?
Post by spitforspat on May 23, 2012 10:27:24 GMT -5
Overreaction or not, I would be pissed if I told my H something he did hurt my feelings, asked for an apology and got nothing.
There have been times when I've made a seemingly harmless joke that hit him really hard because of something he was going through. Maybe it wouldn't have always hurt him, and other times he would laugh it off. But, this time it did hurt, and as his partner I should be respectful of this and apologize. Because what I meant to do was make a joke, but what I did do was hurt him - apology necessary.
I don't know, I still think it was an overreaction to what was obviously meant as a harmless joke.
I do think there is a bit of overreaction to be all "I'm leaving" - but I don't it matters that it was meant to be harmless. It actually doesn't sound like it was meant that way - but regardless, you should apologize when you hurt someone.
Well, it sounds like there are bigger issues here, and your reaction to his statement this morning was a symptom of whatever else is going on.
This is what I'm thinking. Without more background info, it's hard to totally evaluate, but it definitely sounds like there's more to the story. It was a dickish thing to say, OP, that's for sure - joke or not.
I'm leaving was a bit dramatic, I'll admit. I absolutely meant it at the time though. Every morning its something different. Yesterday it was fault that the babysitter read the schedule I sent her wrong. Today it was that I took a day off. Tomorrow it will be something different.
He just called to apologize though. I apologized for being dramatic and we made plans to take DC to the park after work.
If this is a one time thing then I think you're projecting your past issues onto him and that's not fair (though I will say that if H called me worthless as a joke I would tell him that I don't find being called worthless funny and would appreciate if he didn't use that phrase again). If he regularly demeans you and this is the proverbial straw, well that's a different story.
My H isn't a very emotional person so if I had been called stupid and lazy growing up and then he called me lazy and I got upset, he would honestly never connect the two unless I spelled it out for him. If it happened once I would explain to him why it upsets me so much and then would expect that he would use another phrase to joke around. If he then did it regularly to annoy me, then I would be pissed.
If this is not a normal occurrence then your response does seem over the top, and if you have a lot of unresolved issues from your childhood it couldn't hurt to talk to someone. I'm sure everyone says dumb shit from time to time (I know I've pissed H off and he's done the same) but threatening to leave is a pretty big deal.
What the f? Am I reading this shit right? My husband and I joke around almost more than anyone I know, but it would not be a joke to call me worthless. And even if it was, if I calmly said "Hey, that hurt my feelings", I certainly wouldn't expect a dismissive "Fuck you" kind of response.
AE, you were totally justified imo, and I'm glad he apologized eventually. That's horseshit.
What the f? Am I reading this shit right? My husband and I joke around almost more than anyone I know, but it would not be a joke to call me worthless.
yep!
And while threatening to leave for the weekend seems premature and irrational, I am giving the bigger side eye to posters who suggest that laughter is the most appropriate response to your spouse calling you this.
Post by eightangryreindeer on May 23, 2012 11:20:50 GMT -5
I am totally side-eyeing the poster in here who is like, my nickname was "worthless" but it was hilarious and we have a spectacular and understanding sense of humor!
If it was just a joke, then why not fucking apologize?
This is what I was thinking. An ill-timed and miss-the-mark joke is one thing, but immediately whining "but you never appreciate meeeeeee" when asked for an apology is a douche move. And this doesn't sound isolated.
I'm glad he apologized, and hope it wasn't "I'm sorry that you took it the wrong way."
I worked two doubles to have enough hours to take today off to save on our child care costs, like we agreed to.
Growing up I heard how stupid and lazy I was every day. Hearing it again is a big deal. Asking him to apologize and getting shot down is a big deal. I tell him every fucking day that I appreciate what he does and thank him and do nice things for him. In return I get "wish I could be worthless too." You know how many times I've heard thank you?
My XH constantly made me feel worthless, which is ultimately why I left him, so I understand the hurt that you felt... I believe if he had been truly open to understanding why his words and actions had been so hurtful, and open to trying to fix our issues through counseling we would have had a much better chance of mending things.
I'm not suggesting this is the road you should take, but I think making it abundantly clear that you will not tolerate certain things being said, and working through underlying issues whether through counseling or just together is perfectly reasonable.