I find it amazing that he wrote about the Internet and iPads/tablets before they even existed.
Eh, usenet existed by 1980, and I know we had dial up access through compuserve by the mid-80s if not before. What we do here is basically what usenet did back then.
Tablets were already in existence (although nothing like today of course) in the 80s. They'd been written about by sci-fi novelists for decades before that. People envisioned technology long before the capabilities for it actually existed.
He would have been an early adopter, but he wasn't a nostradamus by any means.
I never thought Ender was in any way not compassionate. He is very logical in the book, and I thought his decisions were mostly based on survival. I certainly never saw him as evil, but he was tricked and lied to for the whole book, and left to fend for himself against incredible odds. At no point does he deliberately set out to harm anyone - I always thought that was kind of the irony of the book. As for the twist, I read that they are giving that away in the movie right at the beginning - if we are talking about the games twist. Not the bugger twist.
It may be old, but a lot of people haven't read it. I didn't until book club, and more than half there had never even heard of it. I don't think of it as part of cultural awareness like knowing that Anna Karenina dies.
jenni, it's a fast read, so you can do it easily.
I am seriously not angry, but I am finding it very humorous that you picked this example. A friend just gave me Anna Karenina and I actually did not realize until your post that she dies. (I understand that it is impossible to avoid spoilers completely for older books, but just wanted to point out the irony.)
i love ender's game. we read it in my child psych class in college and had to write a paper on it outlining/explaining 10 theories/ideas/research we had learned about in class and how they appeared in the book. it was my only perfect 100 in college.
DH and i will often listen to the other books in the series when we have a long car trip since it's one of the few books we both like. last week we listened to Seventh Son by OSC and it was decent. DH liked it more than i did. i listened to Lost Boys once and it was very good, haunting. i feel like i knew that about OSC but didn't know the extent of his actions and it definitely makes me rethink seeing the movie.
It may be old, but a lot of people haven't read it. I didn't until book club, and more than half there had never even heard of it. I don't think of it as part of cultural awareness like knowing that Anna Karenina dies.
jenni, it's a fast read, so you can do it easily.
I am seriously not angry, but I am finding it very humorous that you picked this example. A friend just gave me Anna Karenina and I actually did not realize until your post that she dies. (I understand that it is impossible to avoid spoilers completely for older books, but just wanted to point out the irony.)
Post by chronoptomist on Jan 3, 2013 1:12:41 GMT -5
I love OSC's books. I've read three Ender books, about to start on my fourth and I rather enjoyed Lost Boys, although I really thought it should have been titled something else as the lost boys were really just a subplot in the character's life story. It was all interesting to read, but odd. Also, very hard to read when you are pg, which I was at the time.
About his beliefs, he's LDS so I expect the more ummm, traditional religious beliefs from him.
I love OSC's books. I've read three Ender books, about to start on my fourth and I rather enjoyed Lost Boys, although I really thought it should have been titled something else as the lost boys were really just a subplot in the character's life story. It was all interesting to read, but odd. Also, very hard to read when you are pg, which I was at the time.
About his beliefs, he's LDS so I expect the more ummm, traditional religious beliefs from him.
beliefs that I find repugnant but are not pushed on me are ok. I will look past those.
Cross country speaking tours to protest gay marriage bills? Too much. Waaaaaaaaay too fucking much.
He's LDS? Huh, didn't see that coming. Learn something new everyday.
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You can kind of see it in Ender's parents & the whole Third idea in the world. The whole part where they both came from large families even though it was illegal and left their respective religions in order to fit in. Then were forced to have a Third by the government and were both happy and ashamed about it.
He's LDS? Huh, didn't see that coming. Learn something new everyday.
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You can kind of see it in Ender's parents & the whole Third idea in the world. The whole part where they both came from large families even though it was illegal and left their respective religions in order to fit in. Then were forced to have a Third by the government and were both happy and ashamed about it.
some of his other books are much more explicitly religious too. the seventh son series, i think it's called?
I love OSC's books. I've read three Ender books, about to start on my fourth and I rather enjoyed Lost Boys, although I really thought it should have been titled something else as the lost boys were really just a subplot in the character's life story. It was all interesting to read, but odd. Also, very hard to read when you are pg, which I was at the time.
About his beliefs, he's LDS so I expect the more ummm, traditional religious beliefs from him.
beliefs that I find repugnant but are not pushed on me are ok. I will look past those.
Cross country speaking tours to protest gay marriage bills? Too much. Waaaaaaaaay too fucking much.
This was my problem with Michael Crichton. When he was a climate change denier writing Jurassic Park and Timeline, it was okay. When he wrote an entire book about how climate change is bullshit AND the book read like it had been written by a brain damaged potato bug, then we had a problem.
