I didn't notice because mom was in the frame in the first half of the commercial and dad was in the second half, adorable little girl that could have been adopted or birth seen only with mom but talking about dad, I was listening more than I was paying attention until someone pointed out OMG BIRACIAL COMMERCIAL and BIRACIAL COUPLE (and adorable kid) and I'm certainly not going to reverse TiVo to re-watch a commercial to see if I missed something. So yeah, I'm oblivious more than I'm white-guilted.
To be honest and fair, I do notice bi-racial couples. I've got several neighbors that are bi-racial (one is black/white and one is Ghana/Mexican if you consider that biracial.) It is something that yes, people notice and it's disingenuous to say that you don't see the fact that they're a bi-racial couple. What bothers me in "bi-racial" couples isn't skin color, it's other inequalities. I know a number of biracial couples but they are compatible in education, values, manners, background, etc. They're couples like the one in the commercial. OTOH, my daughter is dating a black man and it bothers me that she is. But it's not that he's black that bothers me...it's the whole package of "strikes against him" that bother me - he dresses "ghetto" with the baggy pants and big chains, he's uneducated, he's poorly spoken (not legible, poor grammar and diction), he has a mental illness that requires medication and has never worked in his life. If she was dating the guy in the commercial, yeah I'd notice [just as I'd notice if he had red hair, was Asian or Hispanic, had an accent (please bring home a guy with a British accent, please?) or something else that wasn't normally seen in my totally middle-class, plebeian, Midwest/PacNW history.)
(Zips up flame-retardant suit before I head out to first-grader's birthday party. By the way, it's a child of a bi-racial couple.)
huh? why wouldn't you consider a ghanian/mexican couple biracial? why are there quotes on biracial? it sucks that your daughter is dating someone you don't consider worthy enough. if race doesn't play a factor into why you don't think they're well matched, then you should have left that part out.
The comments about the commercial aren't surprising.
When I started dating DH (who is Indian), my employers at the time pulled me aside and sat me down to share their "concerns" with me. They felt that he wasn't "a good match for me and that they were concerned for me." I had never uttered a negative thing about him. Ever. Also, they had never even had a conversation with him. Just an introduction. They kept saying that "He's just not a good match." And that I "should get back together with my (Caucasian) ex because we have more things in common". I can't remember exactly what they said it was 7 years ago but it was so stupid.
I didn't notice because mom was in the frame in the first half of the commercial and dad was in the second half, adorable little girl that could have been adopted or birth seen only with mom but talking about dad, I was listening more than I was paying attention until someone pointed out OMG BIRACIAL COMMERCIAL and BIRACIAL COUPLE (and adorable kid) and I'm certainly not going to reverse TiVo to re-watch a commercial to see if I missed something. So yeah, I'm oblivious more than I'm white-guilted.
To be honest and fair, I do notice bi-racial couples. I've got several neighbors that are bi-racial (one is black/white and one is Ghana/Mexican if you consider that biracial.) It is something that yes, people notice and it's disingenuous to say that you don't see the fact that they're a bi-racial couple. What bothers me in "bi-racial" couples isn't skin color, it's other inequalities. I know a number of biracial couples but they are compatible in education, values, manners, background, etc. They're couples like the one in the commercial. OTOH, my daughter is dating a black man and it bothers me that she is. But it's not that he's black that bothers me...it's the whole package of "strikes against him" that bother me - he dresses "ghetto" with the baggy pants and big chains, he's uneducated, he's poorly spoken (not legible, poor grammar and diction), he has a mental illness that requires medication and has never worked in his life. If she was dating the guy in the commercial, yeah I'd notice [just as I'd notice if he had red hair, was Asian or Hispanic, had an accent (please bring home a guy with a British accent, please?) or something else that wasn't normally seen in my totally middle-class, plebeian, Midwest/PacNW history.)
(Zips up flame-retardant suit before I head out to first-grader's birthday party. By the way, it's a child of a bi-racial couple.)
huh? why wouldn't you consider a ghanian/mexican couple biracial? why are there quotes on biracial? it sucks that your daughter is dating someone you don't consider worthy enough. if race doesn't play a factor into why you don't think they're well matched, then you should have left that part out.
to be fair, ghana and mexico are both south of the united states and hot. so i can see how people might think they're the same, race/ethnicity-wise.
huh? why wouldn't you consider a ghanian/mexican couple biracial? why are there quotes on biracial? it sucks that your daughter is dating someone you don't consider worthy enough. if race doesn't play a factor into why you don't think they're well matched, then you should have left that part out.
to be fair, ghana and mexico are both south of the united states and hot. so i can see how people might think they're the same, race/ethnicity-wise.
3. I honestly don't think I would have noticed it was an interracial couple if we weren't discussing it. I'm not one of those people that's all "I'm colorblind!" or have a ton of white guilt either.. I just think I'm fairly oblivious to this in the media or perhaps it was because the commercial wasn't going out of it's way to be all "LOOK! An interracial couple! We're so progressive!" It was just a commercial.
Simply featuring an interracial couple is progressive. I'm not personally aware of any other commercials that do so.
I welcome anyone to provide me examples. I hope there are some.
Nope. Not in my region. It's something I tend to look for.
Also, Miso! I was thinking of you the other day. Several weeks ago, a white coworker called my husband Oriental. I made it very clear never to say that again because a) offensive and b) not even true. Friday, my Taiwanese coworker was wearing shorts and made some comment about how "Orientals have bad-looking legs." Explaining to white coworker why it was okay our Taiwanese coworker to call himself Oriental and not okay for him to call my husband Oriental left me wanting to bash my head against the desk.
I posted before I saw you were joking. LOL. I was like, TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES CVILLE.
yes. both located at a latitude further south than the united states.
Yes.
But I was thinking you were referring to south of the US. The point is the joke went WAY over my head. I'm operating on four hours sleep a night on a regular basis. John Stewart is over my head right now.
yes. both located at a latitude further south than the united states.
Yes.
But I was thinking you were referring to south of the US. The point is the joke went WAY over my head. I'm operating on four hours sleep a night on a regular basis. John Stewart is over my head right now.
okay, dude. i know you're tired (even though if something is further south than the u.s., it's . . . further south than the u.s. even if it's not located within the same hemisphere). when i was that tired, i repeatedly gave out the WRONG day as my kid's birthdate. AND I WAS THERE. and, one would say, a rather active participant.
But I was thinking you were referring to south of the US. The point is the joke went WAY over my head. I'm operating on four hours sleep a night on a regular basis. John Stewart is over my head right now.
okay, dude. i know you're tired (even though if something is further south than the u.s., it's . . . further south than the u.s. even if it's not located within the same hemisphere). when i was that tired, i repeatedly gave out the WRONG day as my kid's birthdate. AND I WAS THERE. and, one would say, a rather active participant.
Well, I wouldn't refer to Ghana as south of the United States (which, again, is how I read it although that's clearly not how you meant it), but I do get your point.
okay, dude. i know you're tired (even though if something is further south than the u.s., it's . . . further south than the u.s. even if it's not located within the same hemisphere). when i was that tired, i repeatedly gave out the WRONG day as my kid's birthdate. AND I WAS THERE. and, one would say, a rather active participant.
Well, I wouldn't refer to Ghana as south of the United States (which, again, is how I read it although that's clearly not how you meant it), but I do get your point.
this is one of the most amusing exchanges of my ML career.
The most unbelievable part of this thread is that people still watch commercials.
So true! I can't remember the last time I watched a tv commercial because I dvr everything. I'll wait to watch a show an hour later on dvr just to skip the commercials.
Well, I wouldn't refer to Ghana as south of the United States (which, again, is how I read it although that's clearly not how you meant it), but I do get your point.
this is one of the most amusing exchanges of my ML career.
Simply featuring an interracial couple is progressive. I'm not personally aware of any other commercials that do so.
I welcome anyone to provide me examples. I hope there are some.
Nope. Not in my region. It's something I tend to look for.
Also, Miso! I was thinking of you the other day. Several weeks ago, a white coworker called my husband Oriental. I made it very clear never to say that again because a) offensive and b) not even true. Friday, my Taiwanese coworker was wearing shorts and made some comment about how "Orientals have bad-looking legs." Explaining to white coworker why it was okay our Taiwanese coworker to call himself Oriental and not okay for him to call my husband Oriental left me wanting to bash my head against the desk.
I met up with a remote-working colleague at a trade show and she kept name-dropping her kids' hoity-toity private schools and the fact that she has money.
Then she kept referring to "the Oriental fellow" that she'd met at the trade show. Money can't buy class, sweetheart.
Post by margotmacomber on Jun 1, 2013 21:18:58 GMT -5
I'm still wtf about that post. What inequalities? I have a degree, DH doesn't. He has a job, I don't. Are we unequal?
Neither my or DH's parents have degrees, are they equal? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND
Or is it just her daughter's boyfriend is unequal because he is thuggish ruggish and has bad grammar? ETA And a mental disorder, because everyone knows the crazies don't deserve girlfriends. ^o)
so many questions
ETAA I get the sentiment of not liking the guy, I feel the same about SIL's (white) baby daddy. I don't know why I am hung up on this.
Simply featuring an interracial couple is progressive. I'm not personally aware of any other commercials that do so.
I welcome anyone to provide me examples. I hope there are some.
Nope. Not in my region. It's something I tend to look for.
Also, Miso! I was thinking of you the other day. Several weeks ago, a white coworker called my husband Oriental. I made it very clear never to say that again because a) offensive and b) not even true. Friday, my Taiwanese coworker was wearing shorts and made some comment about how "Orientals have bad-looking legs." Explaining to white coworker why it was okay our Taiwanese coworker to call himself Oriental and not okay for him to call my husband Oriental left me wanting to bash my head against the desk.
I am touched that you think of me during Oriental crises. LOL.