The only commercials I watch are the AT&T ones with the deadpan guy and funny kids.
I love these.
My current favorite is the one where one little girl says if she had a bunch of money she'd buy a machine and turn her brother into a puppy. And the guy says to her, "well, why wouldn't you just buy an actual puppy?"
And she says, "well, because if my brother turned into a puppy, I could take him to show and tell and say hey everybody this is my puppy brother."
And the other little girl gets all wide-eyed and nods her head, all "holy shit she is so RIGHT!"
The only commercials I watch are the AT&T ones with the deadpan guy and funny kids.
I love these.
My current favorite is the one where one little girl says if she had a bunch of money she'd buy a machine and turn her brother into a puppy. And the guy says to her, "well, why wouldn't you just buy an actual puppy?"
And she says, "well, because if my brother turned into a puppy, I could take him to show and tell and say hey everybody this is my puppy brother."
And the other little girl gets all wide-eyed and nods her head, all "holy shit she is so RIGHT!"
all of these are so good. i think my favorite is the werewolf one.
Post by pursemeatballs on Jun 1, 2013 21:52:27 GMT -5
^o) (huh) (kiss) I have had all of those emotions while reading through this thread. Well, maybe not the kiss lips but I don't get to use them enough, so I threw them in for good measure.
Okay everyone, I should have read before I hit enter. I thought I mentioned that I was being pushed out to the door to take kidlet to her friend's birthday party (and wouldn't be here as a result.) I'll try to explain but it will probably be a novel that doesn't answer half the questions or respond to half the outrage. I haven't read the tags or quotes beyond a couple near where I initially posted or where I was first quoted or something.
I have no idea why I put "bi-racial" in quotes there; I hope/think it was the only place I did that. Honestly, to anyone/everyone that asked the other problems are what bother me. I made the comment because as I said (or thought I did) in my first paragraph, I didn't even notice dad was black and mom was white - it was the fact that this post pointed it out in the title of the thread that made me notice it - because they're similar in every (other) relevant way (at least from direct observation) - middle class home with middle-class background and values. I'm not going to go into "some of my best friends are part of a bi-racial couple" (which is true btw) because that's about as relevant as "my best friend is gay." I suppose here is where I should mention that I have dated black guys - guys similar to me in background, education and career aspirations...just like the guy in the commercial.
I put "Ghana and Mexican" because some people are all "they're the same color so they're not bi-racial" or assume bi-racial is a black/white issue rather than a multi-racial/multi-cultural matter.) Yes, they are bi-racial because one is Latin and one is African. You'd not believe how many people DON'T realize they're a freaking bi-racial couple though; they think she's got a slightly lighter complexion than her husband but since they're both dark-complected that negates the bi-racial aspect of the relationship. (insert eyeroll or flame away here.)
The major problem I have with DD2's boyfriend is that he doesn't aspire to be more than he is, and she's going down to his level, as she does with every guy she dates. It wouldn't be as much of a problem if he didn't have these other issue and if she wasn't the daughter with the children who were removed and placed in the care of others so she should be making choices to *better* herself, not lower herself to "yo, its yer girl pick up da phone."
I have no problem with hoodies. Some of my most comfortable clothes are hoodies.
As @misoangry said so eloquently, it's not racist so much as classist. There you have it, I'm a classist. Therein lie the differences of which I speak.
Okay everyone, I should have read before I hit enter. I thought I mentioned that I was being pushed out to the door to take kidlet to her friend's birthday party (and wouldn't be here as a result.) I'll try to explain but it will probably be a novel that doesn't answer half the questions or respond to half the outrage. I haven't read the tags or quotes beyond a couple near where I initially posted or where I was first quoted or something.
I have no idea why I put "bi-racial" in quotes there; I hope/think it was the only place I did that. Honestly, to anyone/everyone that asked the other problems are what bother me. I made the comment because as I said (or thought I did) in my first paragraph, I didn't even notice dad was black and mom was white - it was the fact that this post pointed it out in the title of the thread that made me notice it - because they're similar in every (other) relevant way (at least from direct observation) - middle class home with middle-class background and values. I'm not going to go into "some of my best friends are part of a bi-racial couple" (which is true btw) because that's about as relevant as "my best friend is gay." I suppose here is where I should mention that I have dated black guys - guys similar to me in background, education and career aspirations...just like the guy in the commercial.
I put "Ghana and Mexican" because some people are all "they're the same color so they're not bi-racial" or assume bi-racial is a black/white issue rather than a multi-racial/multi-cultural matter.) Yes, they are bi-racial because one is Latin and one is African. You'd not believe how many people DON'T realize they're a freaking bi-racial couple though; they think she's got a slightly lighter complexion than her husband but since they're both dark-complected that negates the bi-racial aspect of the relationship. (insert eyeroll or flame away here.)
The major problem I have with DD2's boyfriend is that he doesn't aspire to be more than he is, and she's going down to his level, as she does with every guy she dates. It wouldn't be as much of a problem if he didn't have these other issue and if she wasn't the daughter with the children who were removed and placed in the care of others so she should be making choices to *better* herself, not lower herself to "yo, its yer girl pick up da phone."
I have no problem with hoodies. Some of my most comfortable clothes are hoodies.
As @misoangry said so eloquently, it's not racist so much as classist. There you have it, I'm a classist. Therein lie the differences of which I speak.
How in the world did you get "middle class values" from a black guy asleep on a couch in a commercial? That's a reach. WTF are middle class values, anyway, and why is it so important to stay isolated to just those who act and talk like you? By this logic I need to stop hanging out with my grandparents, half of my aunts and uncles, and BFF's husband who didn't go to college (time to talk to her about cutting him loose).
Even if you want to say you're more classist than racist, your initial comments before you decided to edit them were pretty gross. Just because a teenager is "chillaxin" with his friends doesn't mean he's a thug. The guy in the video was chillaxin, too. Maybe he doesn't have the best manners, and maybe his diction sucks (comparing him to a black cartoon was klassy, btw). It's really unfair to judge him based on whatever racial stereotypes you hold, and it's a terrible example to set for your precious daughter.
Sorry guys, I was in a rush. I don't know why I mentioned race. I hate my daughter's BF. he's nothing like us. He is a stereotypical black male. Oh, I guess I do need to mention race. I am classy, he is not. I'm classist, not racist.
"guys similar to me in background, education and career aspirations...just like the guy in the commercial."
Okay, what? How do you know the guy in the commercial is similar to you in background, education and career aspirations? He just sat up and let Cheerios fall off his chest. Could you tell from the way he was lying on the couch and by his puzzled expression that he must have the same background as you?
There are other things to comment on from your reply, but I will just stick with this for now. lol
"guys similar to me in background, education and career aspirations...just like the guy in the commercial."
Okay, what? How do you know the guy in the commercial is similar to you in background, education and career aspirations? He just sat up and let Cheerios fall off his chest. Could you tell from the way he was lying on the couch and by his puzzled expression that he must have the same background as you?
There are other things to comment on from your reply, but I will just stick with this for now. lol
HA HA HA HA! Did MrsBpo say this? I saw her reply but there were way too many words, so I skipped it.
I'm so confused. People from Ghana are the same color as people from Mexico? That can be the case because obviously not every person in each country has the same racial/ethnic background, but generally a person from Ghana isn't going to look like a person from Mexico.
(I also didn't read MrsBPOs full post, so maybe this is clarified? lol)
"guys similar to me in background, education and career aspirations...just like the guy in the commercial."
Okay, what? How do you know the guy in the commercial is similar to you in background, education and career aspirations? He just sat up and let Cheerios fall off his chest. Could you tell from the way he was lying on the couch and by his puzzled expression that he must have the same background as you?
There are other things to comment on from your reply, but I will just stick with this for now. lol
HA HA HA HA! Did MrsBpo say this? I saw her reply but there were way too many words, so I skipped it.
Lol, yes. I was thinking maybe I missed a degree hanging up on the wall in the background in the video or something....nope. Must have just been the way the cereal slipped off of him. Only a middle class man with a great background could have Cheerios slide down his body so gracefully.
I have seen that commercial and never once thought anything of the interracial aspect. Like...didn't even notice it. It's just a family. I hate that some people took something so sweet and innocent and made it about something else.
This was my thought as well.
I actually thought I hadn't seen the commercial yet but I have.
Okay everyone, I should have read before I hit enter. I thought I mentioned that I was being pushed out to the door to take kidlet to her friend's birthday party (and wouldn't be here as a result.) I'll try to explain but it will probably be a novel that doesn't answer half the questions or respond to half the outrage. I haven't read the tags or quotes beyond a couple near where I initially posted or where I was first quoted or something.
I have no idea why I put "bi-racial" in quotes there; I hope/think it was the only place I did that. Honestly, to anyone/everyone that asked the other problems are what bother me. I made the comment because as I said (or thought I did) in my first paragraph, I didn't even notice dad was black and mom was white - it was the fact that this post pointed it out in the title of the thread that made me notice it - because they're similar in every (other) relevant way (at least from direct observation) - middle class home with middle-class background and values. I'm not going to go into "some of my best friends are part of a bi-racial couple" (which is true btw) because that's about as relevant as "my best friend is gay." I suppose here is where I should mention that I have dated black guys - guys similar to me in background, education and career aspirations...just like the guy in the commercial.
I put "Ghana and Mexican" because some people are all "they're the same color so they're not bi-racial" or assume bi-racial is a black/white issue rather than a multi-racial/multi-cultural matter.) Yes, they are bi-racial because one is Latin and one is African. You'd not believe how many people DON'T realize they're a freaking bi-racial couple though; they think she's got a slightly lighter complexion than her husband but since they're both dark-complected that negates the bi-racial aspect of the relationship. (insert eyeroll or flame away here.)
The major problem I have with DD2's boyfriend is that he doesn't aspire to be more than he is, and she's going down to his level, as she does with every guy she dates. It wouldn't be as much of a problem if he didn't have these other issue and if she wasn't the daughter with the children who were removed and placed in the care of others so she should be making choices to *better* herself, not lower herself to "yo, its yer girl pick up da phone."
I have no problem with hoodies. Some of my most comfortable clothes are hoodies.
As @misoangry said so eloquently, it's not racist so much as classist. There you have it, I'm a classist. Therein lie the differences of which I speak.
Are you a lawyer? Because you're verbose enough to be one of the first-years at our firm.
what themysteriouswife said, for the most part (except the part about me being classy. And I don't *hate* the boyfriend; I just don't like him as my daughter's boyfriend - for a multitude of reasons including socio economic, education, ambition, goals and yes, his mental illness as it could reflect on certain legal issues. If he wasn't dating my daughter, meh. But since he is, allow me to dislike what he is, which is someone who I can see likely has no future who will give my daughter no future.)
pj Franklin - DD's BF is far from a teenager, he's in his 30s, and the "chillaxing" of him and his friends has other roots (he grew up in a bad area of a big city, some friends and relatives use/deal drugs, his brother was just killed in a turf war, etc. So yeah, pretty stereotypical, I guess.) Thug is your word, not mine, though to be fair I will allow interpretation by implication. I actually said he was a really nice guy (I hope I didn't edit that out anywhere. He is a nice guy and has been very respectful.) I interpreted "middle class values" from the Dad in the clothes he was wearing, the furnishings, the (very adorable) daughter by dress and presentation, his general demeanor and appearance, and, yes, a general assumption based in his wife's and daughter's appearance and his demeanor and diction when he woke and called his wife's name. WRT the cartoon, can you think of another example that sounds similar? It was the best I could come up with to explain how he speaks (an aspect of presentation and class) - whether it be a cartoon character, an English butler, a talking dog, whatever...that's what he sounds like in person and over the phone. I am not kidding nor am I being "gross" and "racist". If you could think of another as easily identifiable example for that type of mumbled diction, I'll gladly give you the caveat. It's my precious granddaughters for whom I set an example and it's generally a pretty decent, liberal, welcoming and open-minded example.
To all of you who are saying "OMG! Edukashun!" "Keep the Poors from the Haves!" Geez. :eyeroll:
I'm not a lawyer - good, bad or indifferent. I'd be a bad one, for the record.
Middle class - inference by implication. Middle class house, wife, daughter. Maybe upper-middle. Pretty sunroom, daughter in frilly clothes...you guys assume he's *not* middle class? It's a freaking Cheerios commercial. Of *course* he's middle class. Pander to the masses.
I didn't notice because mom was in the frame in the first half of the commercial and dad was in the second half, adorable little girl that could have been adopted or birth seen only with mom but talking about dad, I was listening more than I was paying attention until someone pointed out OMG BIRACIAL COMMERCIAL and BIRACIAL COUPLE (and adorable kid) and I'm certainly not going to reverse TiVo to re-watch a commercial to see if I missed something. So yeah, I'm oblivious more than I'm white-guilted.
To be honest and fair, I do notice bi-racial couples. I've got several neighbors that are bi-racial (one is black/white and one is Ghana/Mexican if you consider that biracial.) It is something that yes, people notice and it's disingenuous to say that you don't see the fact that they're a bi-racial couple. What bothers me in "bi-racial" couples isn't skin color, it's other inequalities. I know a number of biracial couples but they are compatible in education, values, manners, background, etc. They're couples like the one in the commercial. OTOH, my daughter is dating a black man and it bothers me that she is. But it's not that he's black that bothers me...it's the whole package of "strikes against him" that bother me - he dresses "ghetto" with the baggy pants and big chains, he's uneducated, he's poorly spoken (not legible, poor grammar and diction), he has a mental illness that requires medication and has never worked in his life. If she was dating the guy in the commercial, yeah I'd notice [just as I'd notice if he had red hair, was Asian or Hispanic, had an accent (please bring home a guy with a British accent, please?) or something else that wasn't normally seen in my totally middle-class, plebeian, Midwest/PacNW history.)
(Zips up flame-retardant suit before I head out to first-grader's birthday party. By the way, it's a child of a bi-racial couple.)
Just address this real quick, for the sake of being bored.
I'm so confused. People from Ghana are the same color as people from Mexico? That can be the case because obviously not every person in each country has the same racial/ethnic background, but generally a person from Ghana isn't going to look like a person from Mexico.
(I also didn't read MrsBPOs full post, so maybe this is clarified? lol)
I put "Ghana and Mexican" because some people are all "they're the same color so they're not bi-racial" or assume bi-racial is a black/white issue rather than a multi-racial/multi-cultural matter.) Yes, they are bi-racial because one is Latin and one is African. You'd not believe how many people DON'T realize they're a freaking bi-racial couple though; they think she's got a slightly lighter complexion than her husband but since they're both dark-complected that negates the bi-racial aspect of the relationship. (insert eyeroll or flame away here.)
Explanation as to why some others (not just me) are idiots. And I specified Ghana to differentiate because he's from Ghana rather than being African-American (because there are differences in his beliefs and how he was raised vs. if he was raised in the US. Such as he is trying to rebuild his home town, building a pharmacy and medical center, a second home for him and his family, etc. so a lot of his time and efforts go overseas.
he has a mental illness that requires medication and has never worked in his life. If she was dating the guy in the commercial, yeah I'd notice
Just address this real quick, for the sake of being bored.
She's had her children taken away, courts are involved and his illness requires medication, care and supervision. Since she lives with him, it precludes her children living with her because he won't pass a background check (for this and other reasons but this is an issue at this time). So by default she will lose the daughter she is fighting to keep based on choices she is making. I won't get into getting him a pit bull breed from Craigslist "because the doctor said it would be good for him to have a dog" if I haven't done so already. (She did not start dating him until well after the girls were removed from her home so this is a choice she made knowing the ramifications.)
It's not that he has this particular mental illness, it's that his mental illness impacts her and her children directly.
I've heard on more than one occassion that people don't always consider me and DH to be an interracial couple.
There are tons of people that consider interracial relationships referring only to black/white couples.
I forget that DH and I have an interracial marriage unless someone points it out, but I would have immediately noticed the biracial daughter and interracial couple in that Cheerios commercial.