OMFG YOU GUYS -- small update in replies

[bluey0214]

Have faith in the new teacher. In my school if we need to change classrooms we bring the parents in and discuss it with them face to face. I think they went about it the wrong way by it might be a good thing.

[weelass24]

Aug 16, 2013 18:37:56 GMT -5 spk926 said:

Aug 16, 2013 17:01:21 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Yeah, I get that, joenali. And I'm saying that "just calm down" isn't possible after someone lies to me and makes arbitrary decisions about my kid without my consent.

I am saying this nicely, I think you need to sleep on this. While I don't think it will change your mind on wanting your son to have Mrs. Sullivan, I do think you will be able to calm down. The school makes lots of decisions about your child without your consent. Heck, they made the decision to put him in Mrs. Sullivan's class without your consent! The more I read from you the more I don't understand why you are still sending your child to this school. If you don't trust them and seem to have this many problems with them I think it's time to open enroll him in another public school, charter school or private school.

jesus

[spk926]

Aug 16, 2013 17:51:40 GMT -5 UMaineTeach said:

Aug 16, 2013 17:39:33 GMT -5 sparkythelawyer said:

Also, its not like the principal woke up this morning and said, "I think I'll hire a teacher today." This hiring process has been under way for at least a few weeks, assuming they had to do things like collect portfolios, interview, do background checks, etc. Why couldn't the school have let the parents know over the summer "Hey, we're in the midst of hiring a new teacher, so we will likely have to make some classroom adjustments. Here's how they'll happen, etc." If you make people more informed about your processes, its a lot easier to get them to do what you need them to do.

Last year we sent home the class assignments to some parents that said "4th grade teacher, to be named later" We knew we needed another one, but finding one was hard and the parents were waiting. Unless this principal had 20 move ins, in 2nd grade alone, in the first week of school, she knew it was coming, maybe for years (some years people have a lot of sex ), and had it in the budget.

Nope, it could've been just 3 move ins that week that bumped the numbers slightly above what they were comfortable with and they decided to open another section. We get kids that enroll out of the woodwork the first week of school. You would be amazed!!

[sergey]

I'm not a parent or a teacher so I don't know how these things usually go or how big of a deal this is to a kid (although it sounds like a big one in this particular situation) but just the way it was handled and the blatant lies would be enough to majorly piss me off.

[spk926]

Aug 16, 2013 18:40:01 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Omfg. Uh, thanks, skpwhoeveryouare.

Really? You bitch about this school and the principal and teachers on here and you think that's normal? Well, that's not! If I had this many problems with my child's school they wouldn't be going there anymore. If you want something to change then change schools! Not trusting the adults where I send my child everyday is a deal breaker. Clearly you don't trust them and think very little of them so I really don't know why you still send your child there.

[Muddled]

Gosh, Lucy, it's so easy to change districts. Why have you not thought of this?

[spedrunner]

as a teacher this stuff really pisses me off. I am so sorry that you and KHC hav eto go through this.  My school pulls the same crap all the time and wonders why parents get upset. Unfortunately the teachers have to deal with wrath of it, the unhappy parents take it out on us

Some days i want to just tell administration to go eff themselves

Im sorry, cause a stink, this is unacceptable!

[Miss Phryne Fisher]

LHC, do you live in a magical fairy land where you can just change schools on a whim? I hope you don't live near me...one elementary school per district. You would have to pay private school price to send your kid to a different district. There are no actual private schools in our area and the only charter has a waiting list 10 miles long and lost 10 teachers just the other day (of 21).

ETA: I have the solution...just home school! 

[TC]

I remember the KHC school woes (please don't judge my creepy lurker status). I sincerely hope you are able to keep him in his current class, these are such impressionable years in regards to learning to love learning and a few years straight of bad teachers and school drama can really impact that. I can't believe the BS the principal fed you...if KHC absolutely has to move and can't stay, fine whatever (not really, but you know what I mean), but the way he is manipulating the situation is really shady and I don't know that I would feel comfortable with his judgement at this point. The teachers in this thread seem to be taking things really personally? I'm not sure how you are not entitled to be upset about this just because the new teacher might be great. Even if she is fabulous, it's still another disruption for KHC and it doesn't change how the principal handled things. The principal is pulling some manipulative crap, KHC has already been put through the ringer and is not really getting to develop an enjoyment of school, and all that aside... the situation just blows. Hope you guys have a good resolution next week

[speckledfrog]

spk926 you are the most annoying person in a teacher related thread featuring joenali. Evaluate yourself.

[joenali]

Aug 16, 2013 19:24:17 GMT -5 speckledfrog said:

spk926 you are the most annoying person in a teacher related thread featuring joenali. Evaluate yourself.

You are quite the ass yourself.

[spk926]

Aug 16, 2013 19:03:44 GMT -5 Miss Phryne Fisher said:

LHC, do you live in a magical fairy land where you can just change schools on a whim? I hope you don't live near me...one elementary school per district. You would have to pay private school price to send your kid to a different district. There are no actual private schools in our area and the only charter has a waiting list 10 miles long and lost 10 teachers just the other day (of 21).

ETA: I have the solution...just home school! 

Funny because that's exactly what my sister had to do. Years ago they closed her neighborhood school and redid the boundaries for elementary schools. She was not okay with the new school they were assigned to. So she did something about it. She paid for 3 kids (as a single mother) to attend private school 30 minutes away from her house. Thirty minutes in the opposite direction from work.

Also @dick Move, I would like to know what me posting on MM Moms has anything to do with this? Honestly.

I never said what they did or how they handled it was right. I would be pissed at the principal given how he handled it as well. All I did was point out some positives to having a first year teacher. I was bitched at for that. Then I questioned why after bitching about this school many times and not being happy about seemingly anything with it Lucy still sends her child there.

[Miss Phryne Fisher]

Aug 16, 2013 19:30:20 GMT -5 toledo said:

Aug 16, 2013 19:28:05 GMT -5 spk926 said:

Funny because that's exactly what my sister had to do. Years ago they closed her neighborhood school and redid the boundaries for elementary schools. She was not okay with the new school they were assigned to. So she did something about it. She paid for 3 kids (as a single mother) to attend private school 30 minutes away from her house. Thirty minutes in the opposite direction from work.

Did she walk them there in the snow barefoot as well? Uphill? Both ways?

And you didn't specify what your sister does. I knew a single mom who had her kids in private school pretty far off for religious reasons. She was also a pharmacist making about 5x what her ex husband made. 

[wannabe]

Jesus Lucy, suck it up already

[underwaterrhymes]

Aug 16, 2013 18:37:56 GMT -5 spk926 said:

Aug 16, 2013 17:01:21 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Yeah, I get that, joenali. And I'm saying that "just calm down" isn't possible after someone lies to me and makes arbitrary decisions about my kid without my consent.

I am saying this nicely, I think you need to sleep on this. While I don't think it will change your mind on wanting your son to have Mrs. Sullivan, I do think you will be able to calm down. The school makes lots of decisions about your child without your consent. Heck, they made the decision to put him in Mrs. Sullivan's class without your consent! The more I read from you the more I don't understand why you are still sending your child to this school. If you don't trust them and seem to have this many problems with them I think it's time to open enroll him in another public school, charter school or private school.

She is sleeping on it, though. She and KHC are going to see how things go on Monday.

She's supporting her kid.

[spk926]

Aug 16, 2013 19:32:46 GMT -5 Miss Phryne Fisher said:

Aug 16, 2013 19:30:20 GMT -5 toledo said:

Did she walk them there in the snow barefoot as well? Uphill? Both ways?

And you didn't specify what your sister does. I knew a single mom who had her kids in private school pretty far off for religious reasons. She was also a pharmacist making about 5x what her ex husband made. 

She works in HR for a small law firm. She makes around $50,000. Her child support is crap too. She would be considered "nest poor" for sure. Thankfully my parents live by the school my niece and nephews attend and could pick them up from SAC(school age care after school) if traffic was bad coming back from Minneapolis. But other than that it was her dropping them off and picking them up every day.

[spk926]

Aug 16, 2013 19:38:51 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Aug 16, 2013 19:28:05 GMT -5 spk926 said:

Funny because that's exactly what my sister had to do. Years ago they closed her neighborhood school and redid the boundaries for elementary schools. She was not okay with the new school they were assigned to. So she did something about it. She paid for 3 kids (as a single mother) to attend private school 30 minutes away from her house. Thirty minutes in the opposite direction from work.

Also @dick Move, I would like to know what me posting on MM Moms has anything to do with this? Honestly.

I never said what they did or how they handled it was right. I would be pissed at the principal given how he handled it as well. All I did was point out some positives to having a first year teacher. I was bitched at for that. Then I questioned why after bitching about this school many times and not being happy about seemingly anything with it Lucy still sends her child there.

I didn't get nasty with you until you got all OMG CHANGE SCHOOLS THEN on me. Changing schools is a step we're not willing to take. I do find it amusing that you suggest this incredibly fucking major move after telling me I'm overreacting; if I had created this post and then said "...So we're pulling him out of this school," you'd have thought I was MASSIVELY overreacting.

Clearly you think I'm just an alarmist THAT PARENT. I get it. I GET IT. Lol. So go roll your eyes and get sanctimonious somewhere else.

I don't know why you didn't just say that then. You could have said that for "XYZ reasons we can't or just we aren't willing to change schools. While I don't like my son's school there are some positives about it." Something like that. To be honest, I don't think I would've thought you were over reacting if you pulled him. Having a shitty principal is huge. I currently work for one. I get it. And yes, we've had families transfer to other schools in the district because of her. After this year I'm going to start looking elsewhere as well! So when all I hear from you (and I'm not on much during the school year and maybe I miss the positive school posts) is negative about this school it got me questioning why you continue to put up with it. That's all.

[spk926]

Aug 16, 2013 19:49:42 GMT -5 toledo said:

Aug 16, 2013 19:47:59 GMT -5 spk926 said:

She works in HR for a small law firm. She makes around $50,000. Her child support is crap too. She would be considered "nest poor" for sure. Thankfully my parents live by the school my niece and nephews attend and could pick them up from SAC(school age care after school) if traffic was bad coming back from Minneapolis. But other than that it was her dropping them off and picking them up every day.

Oh shit are you local to me?

Yep. I live south of the river. She lives in the western suburbs though. Which automatically makes everything more $$$. Can't move though as since her dick of an ex-husband left the family and house she's upside down on her house and has to stay.

[cc]

I feel your pain. They did this to my daughter when she was in 2nd grade. It was a couple of weeks into the school year and it was the first year this particular school was open. I got a letter a couple of days ahead of time and was able to prepare her, so the transition wasn't bad. She ended up liking the teacher and stayed in the class, but I would have asked for her to be moved back had she had a hard time. IIRC, the principal included in the letter that he would be happy to talk with parents about any concerns they had and would try and reassign classes if their child was unhappy.

And LOL at people suggesting you just move him to another school like it is that easy.

[jayded]

I remember you posting about KHC's difficulties with his teacher last year. For whatever it's worth Lucy I think you are absolutely doing the right thing in standing up for your kid. He deserves to have the chance at a good relationship with his teacher. Good luck!

[WOT?*]

They should have transferred the kids of the parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education and wouldn't complain.

[bonquiqui]

Aug 16, 2013 20:00:05 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

You know, Lucy, if you just built your own school, you wouldn't have any of these problems. Gawd, can't you be more proactive?

Can you build schools in Sims?  

[sonrisa]

Aug 16, 2013 19:28:05 GMT -5 spk926 said:

Aug 16, 2013 19:03:44 GMT -5 Miss Phryne Fisher said:

Funny because that's exactly what my sister had [was able] to do. Years ago they closed her neighborhood school and redid the boundaries for elementary schools. She was not okay with the new school they were assigned to. So she did something about it. She paid for 3 kids (as a single mother) to attend private school 30 minutes away from her house. Thirty minutes in the opposite direction from work.

Wasn't she lucky to have the financial resources to send 3 kids to private school (around here that would run about 60K a year) and that a school she found acceptable had three available slots just when she needed them (rather than having a lengthy and selective admissions process, like most private schools). You might be a teacher, but you still sound pretty clueless about the mechanics of education.

[Muddled]

Aug 16, 2013 23:55:05 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Aug 16, 2013 19:28:05 GMT -5 spk926 said:

Funny because that's exactly what my sister had [was able] to do. Years ago they closed her neighborhood school and redid the boundaries for elementary schools. She was not okay with the new school they were assigned to. So she did something about it. She paid for 3 kids (as a single mother) to attend private school 30 minutes away from her house. Thirty minutes in the opposite direction from work.

Wasn't she lucky to have the financial resources to send 3 kids to private school (around here that would run about 60K a year) and that a school she found acceptable had three available slots just when she needed them (rather than having a lengthy and selective admissions process, like most private schools). You might be a teacher, but you still sound pretty clueless about the mechanics of education.

If Lucy was a stripper, I bet she could afford it.

[KaraOrNot]

The most shocking thing, to me, is that your kids name is Thomas. I always assumed it was a "K" name.

[sonrisa]

Aug 17, 2013 9:13:55 GMT -5 Muddled said:

Aug 16, 2013 23:55:05 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Wasn't she lucky to have the financial resources to send 3 kids to private school (around here that would run about 60K a year) and that a school she found acceptable had three available slots just when she needed them (rather than having a lengthy and selective admissions process, like most private schools). You might be a teacher, but you still sound pretty clueless about the mechanics of education.

If Lucy was a stripper, I bet she could afford it.

lol. I was so tempted to saying something like that ;-)

[speckledfrog]

Aug 17, 2013 10:29:15 GMT -5 KaraOrNot said:

The most shocking thing, to me, is that your kids name is Thomas. I always assumed it was a "K" name.

Lol.  K is for kid.  When he was a baby he was BHC.

[SKP82]

I hope people don't start confusing me with spk.

[Deleted]

Wow this thread took a weird left turn.

[Deleted]

Aug 16, 2013 19:38:51 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Aug 16, 2013 19:28:05 GMT -5 spk926 said:

Funny because that's exactly what my sister had to do. Years ago they closed her neighborhood school and redid the boundaries for elementary schools. She was not okay with the new school they were assigned to. So she did something about it. She paid for 3 kids (as a single mother) to attend private school 30 minutes away from her house. Thirty minutes in the opposite direction from work.

Also @dick Move, I would like to know what me posting on MM Moms has anything to do with this? Honestly.

I never said what they did or how they handled it was right. I would be pissed at the principal given how he handled it as well. All I did was point out some positives to having a first year teacher. I was bitched at for that. Then I questioned why after bitching about this school many times and not being happy about seemingly anything with it Lucy still sends her child there.

I didn't get nasty with you until you got all OMG CHANGE SCHOOLS THEN on me. Changing schools is a step we're not willing to take. I do find it amusing that you suggest this incredibly fucking major move after telling me I'm overreacting; if I had created this post and then said "...So we're pulling him out of this school," you'd have thought I was MASSIVELY overreacting.

Clearly you think I'm just an alarmist THAT PARENT. I get it. I GET IT. Lol. So go roll your eyes and get sanctimonious somewhere else.

I'm willing to bet that this situation will be forgotten by next summer.  KHC will do fine with the new teacher or Mrs. Sullivan.  Give it a chance.  Things will work out.