I am so angry

[speckledfrog]

Sept 25, 2013 22:42:49 GMT -5 sequins said:

Sept 25, 2013 22:35:38 GMT -5 Captain Serious said:

This isn't a dry for help; it's a cry for attention. People who are really contemplating suicide don't get artsy with it.

THIS!

ETA: But good that you called. She will think twice before pulling a stunt like that next time.

I don't think that's how it works.   

[joshlyman]

FWIW, I think you did the right thing. It is more than likely a need for attention or a way to try to control your BIL/get him back, but I always think it's better safe than sorry in these situations.

[Captain Serious]

I don't ever blame anyone for calling, because it usually means they can slep with no regrets at night. But I do think it just encourages this kind of "any attention is good attention" behavior until it's completely out of control.

[bania]

Oh FFS. Tell your bro to stop telling you about this. She's a wackadoo man.

[Captain Serious]

Sept 25, 2013 22:46:02 GMT -5 speckledfrog said:

I don't blame you for calling. Tell your brother that from this point forward you don't want to hear another word about her.

This is a contradiction. If you really think there's merit in calling because there's a chance she may have committed suicide, expelling her from your life sure as hell doesn't do anything to protect her the next time she threatens to hurt herself. Either you think she's a danger to herself, needs help and it's your responsibility to get her help/protect her from herself or you don't. This idea that as long as you don't hear about it everything is peachy-keen is, well, completely self absorbed.

[speckledfrog]

Sept 25, 2013 22:55:00 GMT -5 Captain Serious said:

Sept 25, 2013 22:46:02 GMT -5 speckledfrog said:

I don't blame you for calling. Tell your brother that from this point forward you don't want to hear another word about her.

This is a contradiction. If you really think there's merit in calling because there's a chance she may have committed suicide, expelling her from your life sure as hell doesn't do anything to protect her the next time she threatens to hurt herself. Either you think she's a danger to herself, needs help and it's your responsibility to get her help/protect her from herself or you don't. This idea that as long as you don't hear about it everything is peachy-keen is, well, completely self absorbed.

I'm okay with it being self absorbed.  Amoosed doesn't owe this woman anything.  I'm saying that, for amoosed's own sake and sanity, I completely understand why she called.  And it further demonstrates why she needs to have no contact, even third hand, with this woman.

[Captain Serious]

Sept 25, 2013 22:58:23 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Sept 25, 2013 22:49:56 GMT -5 Captain Serious said:

I don't ever blame anyone for calling, because it usually means they can slep with no regrets at night. But I do think it just encourages this kind of "any attention is good attention" behavior until it's completely out of control.

I disagree. It's possible she could be committed at this point and maybe get some help. I would never take a suicidal threat as anything but serious, even if I think it's an attention ploy.

Didn't they just cost her last week? I'm serious here. Didn't they use driver her to the hospital for observation and mental health services?

[Deleted]

The sheriff said she was emotional but contracted for safety and the sergeant was able to speak with her mother.

I am not going to have further contact and I'm hoping her family is now aware of what has been going on.

I'm glad I called, even if she was just being dramatic.

[Captain Serious]

What does "contracted for safety" mean?

[Captain Serious]

Actually, if what amoosed heard second-hand is correct, she said that she hurt herself, in the past tense.

[Deleted]

Contract safety basically means she confirmed she isn't suicidal with a plan or intent.

[bania]

Because she threatened suicide, are they supposed to take her in again?

[Captain Serious]

Sept 25, 2013 23:10:04 GMT -5 Captain Serious said:

Actually, if what amoosed heard second-hand is correct, she said that she hurt herself, in the past tense.

Eta:I fully admit that with this post, I'm just being a dick.

[Captain Serious]

Sept 25, 2013 23:10:17 GMT -5 @amoosed said:

Contract safety basically means she confirmed she isn't suicidal with a plan or intent.

Thank you for clarifying.

Please understand, I would probably have seriously considered calling, too. In the past, I have called on several occasions. I just feel like this woman has shown in opinion every way possible that she's out to make your lives miserable. Still, I can see why you wouldn't want to live with the intake of not calling if she was serious.

[Deleted]

To clarify, She did not go to the ER last weekend- she lied about it.

[bania]

Oh jeez.

[emptygee]

I can kind of see why BIL didn't call 911 himself...I'm guessing these suicide threats are a regular occurrence.

[medicmommy]

Sept 25, 2013 23:04:02 GMT -5 Captain Serious said:

What does "contracted for safety" mean?

They have the person threatening sign a contract that they won't commit suicide. Because they are obviously in the frame of mind to do so. I HATE when they allow patients to do this.

[emptygee]

Sept 25, 2013 23:27:35 GMT -5 medicmommy said:

Sept 25, 2013 23:04:02 GMT -5 Captain Serious said:

What does "contracted for safety" mean?

They have the person threatening sign a contract that they won't commit suicide. Because they are obviously in the frame of mind to do so. I HATE when they allow patients to do this.

This seems bizarre to me. Like a person signs it, then changes their mind, then thinks "oh I can't kill myself, I could get sued for breach of contract." WTF is the point?

[medicmommy]

They dont have to find placement that way. Its bullshit.

[Deleted]

Is this one of those scenarios where the bride no longer has the wedding to focus on, so she starts in on something else?

Just defriend and be done with her. Let BIL deal with her.