YHL kitchen lights: PIPs added!

[SusanBAnthony]

The twine chandelier is not something I would pick, but I don't think it looks bad, if you want a beachy/casual look.

What I don't understand about either it or the big quatrefoil one is how a one-bulb fixture is enough to light the whole space. We have a very bright kitchen with big windows, but guess what, sometimes it is either a) nighttime, or b) cloudy/rainy. And we definitely need our four bulb fixtures.

The quatrefoil one in the kitchen is just a bizarre choice. It isn't right for the space, and it kind of looks dirty. Or something. It is just off. I also am not a fan of fabric shades in the kitchen. Grease, pops of bubbling tomato sauce, auntie's kitchen ceiling food incident from last year, I may or may not have sprayed apple butter All Over my kitchen , including upwards, 2 weeks ago. I realize YHL doesn't actually cook, but I still think that should be a pretty major consideration in a kitchen design.

The light over the kitchen sink, I do not mind at all. Nothing special, but it is pretty and simple and fine. I see what you mean about it blending in with the window, but that could just be their terrible photography skills. It might look fine in person.

[SusanBAnthony]

I also think they will not look good with the grey color they said they are going to paint the cabinets. The phase 1/phase 2 kitchen remodel thing just feels very disjointed. I don't think it is a bad idea to do it in phases, but I feel like lighting should come last. Or else they should be open to scrapping these choices if they look bad in the final kitchen.

[dottyblue]

I don't demand that my things be matchy-matchy, I'm too poor for that, but quatrefoil fabric, clear glass and twine in the same space mixed with dark and white fixtures? I'm definitely not a fan.

[floridakat]

I thought the one over the sink was way to close to the wall, and I don't care for the clear glass there, either. The twine fixture isn't my taste, but I don't hate it. The quatrefoil fixture makes no sense to me in the space or in conjunction with the other two lights. I would have probably opted for recessed lighting in the work areas and let the twine fixture be the star in the space.

[simpsongal]

Ditto OPs - not diggin it. These "upgrades" seem like a tremendous waste of time. You cannot remove a flourescent light and put a tiny 1-bulber in its place. NOT.ENOUGH.LIGHT.

None of the fixtures match stylewise. It's just so bad. I think the current wall color is pretty and I like their table too. I agree with OPs that the chandy is beachy. They should pull in some stripes or ticking and run with that vibe and keep the blue wall color (if that's what they're going for in their colonial home).

[salsaverde]

I feel like a fabric shade over a cooking area is not a good idea. I agree with you on the one close to the window, I actually couldn't see it in their post. The rope, is not something I would've chosen. Actually I don't like any of them. I like how the room looks as a whole, but I like big white open spaces.

[emoflamingo]

Didn't someone once suggest that they do these things to "correct errors" and make more posts?

I'm pretty sure that must be the case here, at least.

Also, any suggestions on what to replace the ugly florescent thing with?

[heygrey]

i love the twine - totally my style though.

i'm with you all on the quarterfoil though... holy lack of light. my kitchen is very well lit naturally with big windows, but even my three bulb light fixture leaves something to be desired when it's dark. and my kitchen is probably a quarter the size of theirs. i really think they should consider replacing it down the line with several pendants over the countertop/island/whatever will be there long term. i could totally get behind the quarterfoil in the dining room or office though. it would be much more appropriate in either of those rooms so i don't see it as a total waste of money.

the pendant over the sink is so... blah. it blends in all right, but not in a good way.

[AmyRI]

I would not have chosen the twine or the fabric shade. I think the twine is just way too big and NMS. The fabric shade has no business in a kitchen. I would have put in track lighting instead.

[lb2006]

Dec 9, 2013 15:33:38 GMT -5 heygrey said:

i love the twine - totally my style though.

i'm with you all on the quarterfoil though... holy lack of light. my kitchen is very well lit naturally with big windows, but even my three bulb light fixture leaves something to be desired when it's dark. and my kitchen is probably a quarter the size of theirs. i really think they should consider replacing it down the line with several pendants over the countertop/island/whatever will be there long term. i could totally get behind the quarterfoil in the dining room or office though. it would be much more appropriate in either of those rooms so i don't see it as a total waste of money.

the pendant over the sink is so... blah. it blends in all right, but not in a good way.

Agreed.  We have ~10 can lights being installed in our kitchen as well as a pendant over the sink & three over the island.  Daytime light is plenty, but at night - def need to compensate.  They will probably regret it after a few winter evenings in the kitchen.

[emoflamingo]

Dec 9, 2013 15:40:57 GMT -5 FormerlyRR said:

Dec 9, 2013 15:33:26 GMT -5 emoflamingo said:

Didn't someone once suggest that they do these things to "correct errors" and make more posts?

I'm pretty sure that must be the case here, at least.

Also, any suggestions on what to replace the ugly florescent thing with?

Do you mean for your house? I had a ceiling fan with two 40w bulbs in my kitchen, and took it out in favor of a sleek fluorescent fixture. It's oval and maybe 2' long. It's a great solution until I can afford (if ever) targeted can lights. 
Here it is.

Haha yes. We have a florescent monstrosity in our kitchen and unfortunately it's not wide enough for a fan. That's not bad at all! I was imagining some bad track lighting or something when we redo it all lol.

[laurental]

I am so confused by the lights.  It really bothers me that two of them are ORB and one is white.  It just looks so off.  If the other were nickel maybe it would bother me less, it's just too much contrast.  I feel like the ORB also draws attention to the low ceilings.

Speaking of ceilings--- the quatre foil.  It has no diffuser so when you walk under it and look up, wouldn't the view of the naked light bulb be right in your face?  That is so weird!  Who would want to look up at this thing every time you walk under?

[msmerymac]

The quattrefoil and the twin thing are both great if you're living in 1983. Seriously, don't tell me fabric shades on anything but table lamps are coming back into style. The twin chandelier seriously reminds me of something my parents would have had in their den when they got married.

And the length and placement of the glass pendent is, indeed, wrong. I get that you can't make it longer, because it would block the window and get in the way, but then... don't get a pendant.

[msmerymac]

Dec 9, 2013 17:15:51 GMT -5 laurental said:

I am so confused by the lights.  It really bothers me that two of them are ORB and one is white.  It just looks so off.  If the other were nickel maybe it would bother me less, it's just too much contrast.  I feel like the ORB also draws attention to the low ceilings.

Speaking of ceilings--- the quatre foil.  It has no diffuser so when you walk under it and look up, wouldn't the view of the naked light bulb be right in your face?  That is so weird!  Who would want to look up at this thing every time you walk under?

That's what bothers me about virtually all downward facing lights. I didn't even want to get a chandelier with lights that faced down, and you rarely walk under a chandelier.

[munkii]

The lights individually are fine and have a place. That place is not their kitchen, or, at least, not together in their kitchen. The quatrefoil light belongs in a bedroom, living room, giant walk-in-closet, anywhere there isn't cooking or moisture.

[ktzmoh]

Dec 9, 2013 15:40:57 GMT -5 FormerlyRR said:

Dec 9, 2013 15:33:26 GMT -5 emoflamingo said:

Didn't someone once suggest that they do these things to "correct errors" and make more posts?

I'm pretty sure that must be the case here, at least.

Also, any suggestions on what to replace the ugly florescent thing with?

Do you mean for your house? I had a ceiling fan with two 40w bulbs in my kitchen, and took it out in favor of a sleek fluorescent fixture. It's oval and maybe 2' long. It's a great solution until I can afford (if ever) targeted can lights. 
Here it is.

I really like that fixture! Where did you get it? I'm still not sold on recessed lights for our kitchen - I'm really struggling with the vision there. I see either aj jumbled mess of cans or a runway.

[boiler717]

I don't love any of them, but I'm okay with the twine and the pendant. I don't think they go well together and a hate the quatrefoil in the kitchen.

[hbomdiggity]

Dec 9, 2013 18:12:48 GMT -5 boiler717 said:

I don't love any of them, but I'm okay with the twine and the pendant. I don't think they go well together and a hate the quatrefoil in the kitchen.

This. The quatrefoil seems to "formal" given the relaxed look of the other two. Plus fabric above a stove? That won't last.

[ssmjlm]

Oh my just no no no. The twine might work in a dining room, but it's too much for a room with 3 lights showing.

The pendant is way short.

[mrsemilys]

I agree with everyone else. They don't mix....the quatrefoil is so out of place is laughable....that is a hall or bedroom light. I just think it looks thrown together and not in the least bit polished.

[kaylie]

I really don't like the way any of them look together and I find it hard to believe they are looking at the picture of the entire room thinking "this looks great!"

[ssmjlm]

I commented asking for a night or rainy/snowy shot (I'm not too far from them and it's gloomy today). We have a 2 light big boob-ish light in our kitchen and it's not enough light, but it's better than the flourescent that was there before.

[emjacobs]

I think it is fair to say at this point that there are two things that they really just aren't that good with.
1) Light selection / placement
2) Kitchens.

[emjacobs]

Dec 10, 2013 9:41:16 GMT -5 FormerlyRR said:

Dec 10, 2013 9:28:16 GMT -5 emjacobs said:

I think it is fair to say at this point that there are two things that they really just aren't that good with.
1) Light selection / placement
2) Kitchens.

I just can't believe they didn't paint those nasty cabinets first. 

But if they painted the cabinets first then they would have missed out on another post about replacing the light(s) because they don't go with the cabinets and blah blah blah. 

[emjacobs]

Dec 10, 2013 9:45:49 GMT -5 FormerlyRR said:

Dec 10, 2013 9:44:00 GMT -5 emjacobs said:

But if they painted the cabinets first then they would have missed out on another post about replacing the light(s) because they don't go with the cabinets and blah blah blah. 

I was thinking that as I hit send...LOL

This is why I can't handle their blog anymore, it's SOOOOOOO obvious all the shit they do for clicks, and yet another wordy blog post about dust in the corner or whatever the shit maybe.  I can handle Katie Bower's crazy talking since her posts seem to be all over.  I also generally like her decorating style. 

[ssmjlm]

Dec 10, 2013 9:40:10 GMT -5 FormerlyRR said:

Dec 10, 2013 9:19:35 GMT -5 ssmjlm said:

I commented asking for a night or rainy/snowy shot (I'm not too far from them and it's gloomy today). We have a 2 light big boob-ish light in our kitchen and it's not enough light, but it's better than the flourescent that was there before.

Let's see if you make it past moderation!

Sherry responded that they felt that length was the best for the window (yeah right).  And that they will take some night shots.  But I'm betting they take night shots with all of the lights on.  I want a picture with just the kitchen light on.

[jloww]

I just don't understand it.  I don't have a big budget when I work on rooms, but I still find a way to have an electrician to do the room to my liking as if I were "custom building" it.

ETA:  I just want to like everyone's comments in his thread

[Marmee]

Awful. That twine light reminds me of the clothes pin light which I also didn't like. They just can't pull stuff off. I'm beginning to think the first house was a total fluke (or that they just copied other sources) because they just do not have good design sense IMO.

[TBM]

Dec 11, 2013 16:30:06 GMT -5 Marmee said:

They just can't pull stuff off. I'm beginning to think the first house was a total fluke (or that they just copied other sources) because they just do not have good design sense IMO.

:Y: :Y:

[pugz]

quatrefoil has got to go! They need to get some recessed lighting up in there, hopefully in phase 2 once they've lived there for a few years and realize they need more/better light.