It is the truth. Like it or not. You can be ignorant all you want about the reality but this isnt going to change any time soon
That may be true, but there are better ways of expressing your knowledge or opinions. I have talked to someone on this board before who deals with animal welfare in testing labs. She got me to come around on a lot of things, but her tone was far different from yours. You'll have to excuse me for not thanking you for enlightening us.
I aplogize for my tone, I did not intend to come across that way. I realize I dont always come across to others how it sounds in my head. This is a touchy subject for me. I work in this industry giving everything to these animals while they are here with us and I also own a research beagle and made sure everyone was adopted to a loving home.
My point is, I hate that the only way to get these medical advances is to test on animals but I do my best to honor their sacrifice. I have benefited from research animals as many of you have but I hate to see the misinformation that is sspead about the animals.
Oh boy. Hobbs just peed on the back of the couch. I've forgotten what it's like to house break a dog.
DH goes "well, the couch is his now." lol
If it's just marking vs a full on pee, a belly band worked great for us. If it's full on pee you may have to keep him tethered to you for a while.
Definitely full-on pee. He hasn't seemed interested in marking so far. I got him outside right away and he still had a lot to go. We'll just have to really pay attention when he's up and wandering around.
If it's just marking vs a full on pee, a belly band worked great for us. If it's full on pee you may have to keep him tethered to you for a while.
When the beag was a puppy he spent a lot of time tied to me. And I bell trained him so he would learn how to ask to go out. Is your beagle food driven?
Seems that way.
I'm going to start carrying little treats in my pocket.
When you say he was tied to you, do you mean you kept him on a leash?
That may be true, but there are better ways of expressing your knowledge or opinions. I have talked to someone on this board before who deals with animal welfare in testing labs. She got me to come around on a lot of things, but her tone was far different from yours. You'll have to excuse me for not thanking you for enlightening us.
I aplogize for my tone, I did not intend to come across that way. I realize I dont always come across to others how it sounds in my head. This is a touchy subject for me. I work in this industry giving everything to these animals while they are here with us and I also own a research beagle and made sure everyone was adopted to a loving home.
My point is, I hate that the only way to get these medical advances is to test on animals but I do my best to honor their sacrifice. I have benefited from research animals as many of you have but I hate to see the misinformation that is sspead about the animals.
Thanks for apologizing. I can always appreciate being educated on the realities of this. I'm just going on the information in his file, which was taken directly from the lab. It's vague, but explains the types of things tested on him, the fact that he was isolated, and a couple of vet records (mostly from after he was removed from the lab).
And I am more understanding of testing for medical reasons, but I have a hard time understanding why it would be necessary to test shampoo on a dog.
Yea I tied the leash around my waist and hooked it on his collar, so if I went to a different room so did he. This was when he wasn't able to ask to go out (we were still learning that). It has a downside of him still following me from room to room, but most dogs do that anyways.
The bell deal was simple. Hang the bell to he can hit it with his nose without jumping. Everytime you take him out the door you hit the bell, open the door, walk through with him, give him treat. Every time. If he is a little pig like most beagles I know he will figure this out quickly and ring the bell for cookies. At that point you have to commit to taking him out every time he rings the bell, give cookie. The cookie isn't to pee, it is to go out.
Awesome, thanks! What if you're away? Do you crate him? We're not allowed to do that, because of his past.
isabel, I've followed Beagle Freedom Project on Fb for a while, adopting from them is something I'm hoping to do one day they're the reason were working towards using all cruelty free products at home. Hobbs is adorable, congrats!
In that case you should stop using medical products or seeking any medical treatment. Those are tested on animals too.
I should have been more clear-we're working towards using cruelty free products at home whereever possible. Makeup/personal care products and household products, mostly. In a perfect world (well in my perfect world, at least) we wouldn't need to use animal testing for medical purposes but I see the rationale behind that more than I do for testing makeup, personal care products, and household products on animals.
Yeah, that's a good idea. We can confine him to the kitchen pretty easily. No separation anxiety according to his foster mom. Thankfully, I am off work for the next week or so, which will make it much easier to focus on training him. We do have a dog door that goes out to the porch on our patio, which has a litter box of sorts. I'd like to train him to go in that so that he can use it any time he wants. We'll see how things progress over the next few days. He's clearly pretty smart, so I'm sure he'll pick it up.
We're currently house hunting and I want so badly to find a house so he can have a yard to play in. Hoping that will happen in the next couple of months.
Yea I tied the leash around my waist and hooked it on his collar, so if I went to a different room so did he. This was when he wasn't able to ask to go out (we were still learning that). It has a downside of him still following me from room to room, but most dogs do that anyways.
The bell deal was simple. Hang the bell to he can hit it with his nose without jumping. Everytime you take him out the door you hit the bell, open the door, walk through with him, give him treat. Every time. If he is a little pig like most beagles I know he will figure this out quickly and ring the bell for cookies. At that point you have to commit to taking him out every time he rings the bell, give cookie. The cookie isn't to pee, it is to go out.
Awesome, thanks! What if you're away? Do you crate him? We're not allowed to do that, because of his past.
What about an x-pen, or maybe gating him in a room? A yummy treat like a Kong with peanut butter or canned pumpkin frozen inside that he gets when you leave the house could help too.
Awesome, thanks! What if you're away? Do you crate him? We're not allowed to do that, because of his past.
What about an x-pen, or maybe gating him in a room? A yummy treat like a Kong with peanut butter or canned pumpkin frozen inside that he gets when you leave the house could help too.
Yeah, I'm thinking our kitchen might be the perfect spot for that. We would really just need a baby gate.