Post by humpforfree on Jan 23, 2014 12:15:14 GMT -5
I am 34w4d and as of this morning, baby is still breech. The doc didn't sound very hopeful that it would flip due to low fluid (whatever the units are, it should be between 5-20 & and mine was 7-8).
I got back in 3 weeks to check presentation and if it is still breech he wants to schedule a CS around 39 weeks. This isn't my delivering practice, but a peri that I've been seeing simultaneously (basically for U/S).
Has anyone had luck getting baby to flip? Anything to try? Suggestions or thoughts? I would love to avoid a CS if possible.
UPDATE: well... I had 4 chiro appts, laid with my hips above my head and a nice pack on the baby's head for 45ish minutes each night, but baby stayed breech. On Tuesday at 37 weeksI had a follow up appt to check presentation and confirm a schedules CS. The baby's fluid was even lower (below okay levels) and the doctor was really concerned and sent me for a CS that day. I had to wait 8 hours since I'd had a cheesestick and coffee for breakfast, and then was pushed back due to another CS.
BUT at 9:07 pm on 2/11, Lane Vincent was born, 3 weeks early at 7 lbs 5 oz and 21.25" long. He had some issues with fluid in his lungs and breathing and was in the nicu this week. Yesterday he wa upgraded to an open crib and he will most likely get discharged today with me!
Check out spinningbabies.com for ideas on exercises to try. Find a chiro that is Webster certified and book a few appointments: icpa4kids.org/Find-a-Chiropractor/ You can consider seeking a provider that does breech births, if that's something you would consider. The main reason most doctors do a c-section is that they're not trained in breech birth. It's not a MUST do if you find a provider with experience and training. AmyRI had a breech vaginal birth, as did my sister.
Post by karinothing on Jan 23, 2014 12:25:29 GMT -5
Can you try an external version? I want to say catbus had one, but I could be wrong. Someone mentioned one yesterday in the UO post.
Also, do you know a Dr that would willing to deliver vaginally. I don't know where you are in MD, but I know that Dr. Tchabo at VCH does vaginal breech births. I think he has a good success rate. Maybe you could call his office for more resources?
Post by carolinagirl831 on Jan 23, 2014 12:26:52 GMT -5
check out spinning babies.com there are exercises to encourage flipping try accupuncture Did your Dr discuss a version? catbus she had an successful one
My dd was breech, which we did not discover until my 41 week 2 day apt! I did end up with a c section the next day, there was no chance to flip her at the point. I also did not want one, but in the end I had an easy recovery and DD is here safely. Long story short, it wasn't the end of the world and was not as bad as i thought. good luck!
I always want to chime in on posts like this….. there are situations where baby is breech for a reason. Cord length, uterus shape/abnormalities. Sometimes you just don't know why until after the baby is born (doctors sometimes can tell during the C/S).
So, while I hope you get the birth you want , do keep this in mind in case you end up with a C/S. Your baby's arrival will be amazing regardless.
I had a vaginal breech birth, and if you want to discuss that I'm happy to, although I'm about to enter an hours long meeting so I can't write my long reply now.
A Webster technique certified chiropractor got my baby to flip transverse to vertex at 33/34 weeks. I'd start there, and maybe an acupuncturist.
My baby was breech at 35.5 weeks and turned on his own between then and my 37 week appointment (when we would have had to make a decision about scheduling an ECV or C-section). He stayed head down after that, and I had an uncomplicated vaginal birth.
I always want to chime in on posts like this….. there are situations where baby is breech for a reason. Cord length, uterus shape/abnormalities. Sometimes you just don't know why until after the baby is born (doctors sometimes can tell during the C/S).
So, while I hope you get the birth you want , do keep this in mind in case you end up with a C/S. Your baby's arrival will be amazing regardless.
Part of the process of assessing risk level of a vaginal delivery is looking for abnormalities. A well trained doc will not just let anyone deliver vaginally, and there are a lot of safeguards to make sure mom and baby dont end up In trouble during labor. I agree with your sentiment, but know that there are women that won't be given an option of vaginal delivery if they're a poor candidate.
Definitely look into the Webster technique and try some acupuncture.....those seem to have better results these days than standing on your head in the pool and singing to your girl parts. You could also try a version if you end up having to plan a c-section anyway -- you never know, could work.....
I chime in on these threads, too, because my cousin was one of the bad vaginal breech birth statistics and her beautiful little boy didn't make it. I would volunteer myself for dozens of c-sections to have him here today. Everyone shares the happy stories but nobody wants to share the sad, so I know it's scary but it's part of every mom's due diligence.
At any rate, your little babe could very well turn in the next few weeks, so I hope you don't even have to go through the worry associated with planning a breech birth.
I wouldn't panic yet, and would take @tokenhoser's advice first. I did have an ECV, but it's because my kid had been head-down, then flipped to breech at 37 weeks and some days. My doctor gave me the option of the ECV, but they wanted to do it before 38 weeks, so I had one day to attempt to get him to flip on my own. I did everything on Spinning Babies, including the things that sounded weird (ice pack at the top of the belly, heat at the bottom, having H talk to my lower belly, lighting some kind of incense, hanging out on an inverted ironing board), but one day clearly wasn't enough, because he didn't flip.
In my case, even though I was pretty far along, my doctor said I would be a good candidate because fluid levels were great. Low fluid levels do make an ECV riskier. I assume you'll have another appointment in two weeks? If I were you, I'd try the exercises, try acupuncture, try all the weird stuff, then talk to your doctor about the options if baby is still breech at 36+ weeks. Good luck!
I always want to chime in on posts like this….. there are situations where baby is breech for a reason. Cord length, uterus shape/abnormalities. Sometimes you just don't know why until after the baby is born (doctors sometimes can tell during the C/S).
So, while I hope you get the birth you want , do keep this in mind in case you end up with a C/S. Your baby's arrival will be amazing regardless.
Part of the process of assessing risk level of a vaginal delivery is looking for abnormalities. A well trained doc will not just let anyone deliver vaginally, and there are a lot of safeguards to make sure mom and baby dont end up In trouble during labor. I agree with your sentiment, but know that there are women that won't be given an option of vaginal delivery if they're a poor candidate.
And same with an ECV: A doctor will not (or should not, at least) just attempt one without assessing the mom and baby's individual situation. It's not just a "Well, let's wrench that baby around the right way!" situation; in my case, it was a discussion I had with my doctor about my particular situation and the ability of the OB and hospital in performing the procedure.
I always want to chime in on posts like this….. there are situations where baby is breech for a reason. Cord length, uterus shape/abnormalities. Sometimes you just don't know why until after the baby is born (doctors sometimes can tell during the C/S).
So, while I hope you get the birth you want , do keep this in mind in case you end up with a C/S. Your baby's arrival will be amazing regardless.
Part of the process of assessing risk level of a vaginal delivery is looking for abnormalities. A well trained doc will not just let anyone deliver vaginally, and there are a lot of safeguards to make sure mom and baby dont end up In trouble during labor. I agree with your sentiment, but know that there are women that won't be given an option of vaginal delivery if they're a poor candidate.
I know that. I was one of those women who was not permitted a vaginal delivery bc of that.
DS was breech from 20 weeks on. These are the things I tried to turn him: Spinningbabies.com exercises Saw a Webster certified chiropractor Moxabustion with my accupuncurist Reflexology And finally, an external cephalic version.
In the end, he never flipped. The placenta was sort of over his head so it really impeded his ability to flip. That and the fact he had been in the position for so long. I did end up with a c-section.
But as pp have mentioned, you may be able to find a practitioner versed in breech vaginal delivwries making that a more viable option for you. , If you are interested in that I would look into it sooner than later. I did research it some with the help of my Doulas but unfortunately none of my local practitioners versed in breech deliveries would attempt it if the baby was estimated to be over 8.5 lbs. DS as consistently measuring too big. And yes, these estimates can definitely be wrong, but this was what they used to determine whether they were willing to try it. It may also depend on what exact breech position baby is in. Generally you want Frank breech so the bum comes out first to widen the birth canal for the head. Footlong breach is much trickier.
Post by humpforfree on Jan 23, 2014 13:34:14 GMT -5
Thank you!! I am going to research it this weekend and then talk to my ob on Tuesday. I don't know that my practice would do an ECV or not (even if I was a good candidate) so I want to ask their thoughts and their thoughts about other methods (chiro, etc).
I am cool with a c if it is my option, but it would be nice to avoid if possible
Upping your water intake can maximize your amniotic fluid levels, which will give baby more space to turn.
Thanks! I already drink 120 oz of water/day as a minimum and then sometimes more + any additional fluids. I'm not sure how realistic it would be for me to drink more... At least without a laptop so I could do cad in the bathroom
I wouldn't wait on trying the other things... they're not going to hurt anything but they're all more likely to work sooner rather than later. The longer you wait to start, the more likely nothing is to change.
I'll ditto the spinning babies exercises. I did them and he flipped. Of course, he flipped back to breech, so he had his own plans. Also, swimming can be helpful.
We ended up doing an ECV at 38w2d, which was unsuccessful. Ultimately, I had a scheduled csection. It was definitely not my preferred method to deliver, but it turned out to be nbd. The recovery was a lot easier than anticipated. Good luck!
Congrats! Your PG story is almost identical to mine - breech baby, wouldn't flip, fluid low at 6 - 7, fluid dropped lower and C-section same day. Mine also had to be done 6 hours later in the day because I had ate the hospital breakfast that morning thinking I was going to be discharged and going home. My baby came a bit earlier though so I never had a chance to turn her.
Our pedi sent us for a hip ultrasound at 6 weeks due to the breech position.
Congrats! Your PG story is almost identical to mine - breech baby, wouldn't flip, fluid low at 6 - 7, fluid dropped lower and C-section same day. Mine also had to be done 6 hours later in the day because I had ate the hospital breakfast that morning thinking I was going to be discharged and going home. My baby came a bit earlier though so I never had a chance to turn her.
Our pedi sent us for a hip ultrasound at 6 weeks due to the breech position.
He is so cute!
Thanks!! I wouldn't be surprised if we have hip follow up too. His legs are still very "froggy". I don't know how long until they expect them to settle out