She is trying to get the teacher fired. That is a strong reaction.
No it's an appropriate reaction. He inappropriately punished a 5 yr old for a normal 5 yr old accident (spilling juice if that is true) by taking his snack and putting him in TO. Not remotely OK and indicates he does not have the necessary knowledge or skills to be working in a 5 yr old classroom. So he needs to be gone.
This has not been proven. The guy is out of town and hasn't even had a chance to sit down with the admin and explain exactly what happened. Jesus, you all go for the pitchforks and torches quickly, don't you?
Can you really not grasp that there is very much a difference between venting to your friends and talking to the daycare director ?
Sure. But there's venting, and there's crazy, irrational venting. If I called up a friend and started screaming about "mother fucking pieces of shit" etc., I would have crossed the line into crazy and irrational.
If there is one thing I am going to get crazy or irrational over it is my children.
In this case though, I am neither of these things.
Sure. But there's venting, and there's crazy, irrational venting. If I called up a friend and started screaming about "mother fucking pieces of shit" etc., I would have crossed the line into crazy and irrational.
Post by thebuddhagouda on Apr 17, 2014 14:08:21 GMT -5
I don't see where she said she was actively trying to get the teacher fired either. She was trying to find out what happened, and if it was my kid I would absolutely request that he be moved to another class if the teacher remains. There's no way I would trust someone that had taken food away from my kid and not even filled out any kind of disciplinary form. What else is he doing and not telling me?
No it's an appropriate reaction. He inappropriately punished a 5 yr old for a normal 5 yr old accident (spilling juice if that is true) by taking his snack and putting him in TO. Not remotely OK and indicates he does not have the necessary knowledge or skills to be working in a 5 yr old classroom. So he needs to be gone.
This has not been proven. The guy is out of town and hasn't even had a chance to sit down with the admin and explain exactly what happened. Jesus, you all go for the pitchforks and torches quickly, don't you?
Can you really not grasp that there is very much a difference between venting to your friends and talking to the daycare director ?
Sure. But there's venting, and there's crazy, irrational venting. If I called up a friend and started screaming about "mother fucking pieces of shit" etc., I would have crossed the line into crazy and irrational.
This has not been proven. The guy is out of town and hasn't even had a chance to sit down with the admin and explain exactly what happened. Jesus, you all go for the pitchforks and torches quickly, don't you?
I'm amused by your insistence here. Okay, we get it; you think lazerus is overreacting and crazy and irrational and etc etc etc. We largely disagree with you. Enough.
I'm amused by the fact that not a single response has dealt with the fact that what happened has not actually been established. If I am repeating the point, it is only because it seems to have been totally missed.
Anyway, this ML circle jerk has been great fun, but i've got to go pick my kid up fom school. Over and out.
Food is a basic need. If Laz cannot trust her childcare provider to provide for a basic need, then something is seriously wrong.
Additionally, Laz's kid needs to know that he won't be deprived of food and comfort at daycare. Food deprivation as a punishment? For a FIVE YEAR OLD? I don't care if it's "only" a snack and it's "only" for a few hours; that's a training session for food issues later in life. No. Not appropriate.
I'm amused by your insistence here. Okay, we get it; you think lazerus is overreacting and crazy and irrational and etc etc etc. We largely disagree with you. Enough.
I'm amused by the fact that not a single response has dealt with the fact that the fact of what happened have not actually been established. If I am repeating the point, it is only because it seems to have been totally missed.
Anyway, this ML circle jerk has been great fun, but i've got to go pick my kid up fom school. Over and out.
I feel safe in believing that when multiple 5yos (who aren't always so good with the details) tell the same story repeatedly without it changing they are probably telling the truth.
Unless you want us to believe that Laz's kid is a mastermind that manipulated other 5yos into memorizing his version of the story.
plus, even if the teacher's story about the spilled juice is true, he legally still should have given him another snack and not used food as a punishment. There's no getting around that
No it's an appropriate reaction. He inappropriately punished a 5 yr old for a normal 5 yr old accident (spilling juice if that is true) by taking his snack and putting him in TO. Not remotely OK and indicates he does not have the necessary knowledge or skills to be working in a 5 yr old classroom. So he needs to be gone.
This has not been proven. The guy is out of town and hasn't even had a chance to sit down with the admin and explain exactly what happened. Jesus, you all go for the pitchforks and torches quickly, don't you?
When it comes to the adult who is responsible for taking care of my child Hell Yes. I am my child's advocate, protector, and safe place I want her to know 100% that if an adult is inappropriate in any way (breaking the law by withholding food for example) towards her that I will fight tooth and nail to see to have that person removed from her life. Her well being and safety is the only thing that matters, and the adult who screwed up will no longer have the power to hurt her. Yes 1 snack isn't necessarily a big deal but it shows a lack of necessary skills for his job that would make me completely uncomfortable trusting him with my child for 8+ hours a day. At the very least I would want my child in a different class.
acuore is like one of those people who picks and chooses which parts of the Bible they're going to abide by, based on the situation. You don't get to do that.
I'm amused by your insistence here. Okay, we get it; you think lazerus is overreacting and crazy and irrational and etc etc etc. We largely disagree with you. Enough.
I'm amused by the fact that not a single response has dealt with the fact that what happened has not actually been established. If I am repeating the point, it is only because it seems to have been totally missed.
Anyway, this ML circle jerk has been great fun, but i've got to go pick my kid up fom school. Over and out.
Post by W.T.Faulkner on Apr 17, 2014 14:23:16 GMT -5
Guys, we all know that the tone/language you use here is exactly the tone/language you use in your day-to-day interactions with your child's day care provider.
I'm amused by your insistence here. Okay, we get it; you think lazerus is overreacting and crazy and irrational and etc etc etc. We largely disagree with you. Enough.
I'm amused by the fact that not a single response has dealt with the fact that what happened has not actually been established. If I am repeating the point, it is only because it seems to have been totally missed.
Anyway, this ML circle jerk has been great fun, but i've got to go pick my kid up fom school. Over and out.
Keeeeeeeeeeep going.... you'll get there eventually.
This is it too- even the TEACHER'S account doesn't help teacher. He admitted to putting her child in time out - because her child spilled his juice. Again, if this is the truth (which I don't think it is), spilling juice is not a punishable offense!
I'm amused by the fact that not a single response has dealt with the fact that the fact of what happened have not actually been established. If I am repeating the point, it is only because it seems to have been totally missed.
Anyway, this ML circle jerk has been great fun, but i've got to go pick my kid up fom school. Over and out.
Unless you want us to believe that Laz's kid is a mastermind that manipulated other 5yos into memorizing his version of the story.
Post by nightandday on Apr 17, 2014 15:11:52 GMT -5
I'm a teacher, and I am 110% on Laz's side. Something does not quite add up here. I don't see how a time-out was even warranted. If he spilled his juice on purpose, an appropriate response would be to have him help clean it up. Denying food is beyond the realm of a justified punishment. To make him throw away a snack as punishment and watch as all the other kids ate is downright nasty. I've given one of my students my own lunch during a trip because he forgot his.
Seriously. What a weirdo ballistic response. This teacher has some control issues, maybe? All I know is my DD went to a coop, so I helped out one morning a month. During snack, the kids spilled juice like once every minute between them. No one would EVER get snack if that was the punishment. You show them how to clean up after themselves and give them another juice + more snack.
No it's an appropriate reaction. He inappropriately punished a 5 yr old for a normal 5 yr old accident (spilling juice if that is true) by taking his snack and putting him in TO. Not remotely OK and indicates he does not have the necessary knowledge or skills to be working in a 5 yr old classroom. So he needs to be gone.
This has not been proven. The guy is out of town and hasn't even had a chance to sit down with the admin and explain exactly what happened. Jesus, you all go for the pitchforks and torches quickly, don't you?
You went to judgmental shrew pretty quickly so I guess we are even.
Food is a basic need. If Laz cannot trust her childcare provider to provide for a basic need, then something is seriously wrong.
Additionally, Laz's kid needs to know that he won't be deprived of food and comfort at daycare. Food deprivation as a punishment? For a FIVE YEAR OLD? I don't care if it's "only" a snack and it's "only" for a few hours; that's a training session for food issues later in life. No. Not appropriate.
This. so so much this. My BFF of like almost 20 years takes snack time away from her DD if she misbehaves. It grosses me out so bad I have distanced myself a TON. I told her she's like a shade away from child abuse.
This has not been proven. The guy is out of town and hasn't even had a chance to sit down with the admin and explain exactly what happened. Jesus, you all go for the pitchforks and torches quickly, don't you?
You went to judgmental shrew pretty quickly so I guess we are even.
Post by bugandbibs on Apr 17, 2014 18:27:22 GMT -5
Poor kiddo, I'm glad he has you to advocate for him. Depending on how things are resolved, I would consider reporting the incident to the state licensing board.
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