(@) Thursday randoms

[twotrue]

I've never heard that nor would I be comfortable going by that. I usually go with the one drink rule.

[StrawberryBlondie]

I've heard that too. I took it to mean more that if you're actually, objectively OK to drive, not if you just think you're OK to drive.

ETA: pumping and dumping really should only be necessary if you need to get rid of the milk. Alcohol doesn't stay in breastmilk after your body metabolises it.

[osulori]

I've heard that from quite a few places/sources-Kellymom is sticking out in my mind as one of them but I couldn't say for sure. I'll go check.

ETA: Found it.  kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/lifestyle/alcohol/

That being said, I generally stick to the 1-2 drink rule anyway because I seem to end up with a headche after more than two drinks which sucks.

[FloFTW]

I don't think what I'd heard was really the drive/drink rule, but it was definitely more than one drink. Basically, a little tipsy = OK (I don't know, like 2-3 drinks). Drunk = no. However, you don't really need to pump and dump, like, the boob juice doesn't stay contaminated. You'd only need to pump and dump if you were wasted and your baby needed to eat right then/you had to pump right then.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Apr 17, 2014 12:00:39 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Apr 17, 2014 11:58:49 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

I've heard that too. I took it to mean more that if you're actually, objectively OK to drive, not if you just think you're OK to drive.

Like if you're BAC is below .08 you're okay? Not just if you're sober enough to remember how to get your keys into the ignition.

No, more like if you feel any effects at all, its a no go.

[Deleted]

I'd heard that the amount of alcohol present in breastmilk is similar to your BAC. So I guess by that measure, wouldn't that be one or two drinks? Because I don't consider myself okay to drive somewhere between one or two drinks depending on how I spaced them.

Basically, I don't consider this conflicting advice and/or I'm a lightweight. Or extra cautious about drunk driving, idk.

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Last night was one of the worst bedtime nights in the 5 1/2 year history of my child. She was so over-tired and horrible, it's a miracle we're all still speaking to each other this morning. Meanwhile, she's lost TV, iPad and playing with friends privileges for a week and is lucky she didn't lose more.

This is why I drink.

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Apr 17, 2014 12:12:03 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Apr 17, 2014 12:07:35 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I'd heard that the amount of alcohol present in breastmilk is similar to your BAC. So I guess by that measure, wouldn't that be one or two drinks? Because I don't consider myself okay to drive somewhere between one or two drinks depending on how I spaced them.

Basically, I don't consider this conflicting advice and/or I'm a lightweight. Or extra cautious about drunk driving, idk.

Yeah. I think you're right. For a normal person, it's probably the same thing. For someone who drinks almost every night of the week and has built up somewhat of a tolerance, could you run into the same issues as the morphine mom?

I don't know know. I mean let's say you were fucking wasted. That's a BAC of 2.0 max, yes? That's less than a wine cooler. I mean I think. I'm not really certain that 2.0 in the blood is the same as 2.0 percent by volume in an alcoholic beverage. 

[Velar Fricative]

There's some studies that have been posted on the MMM board about the little amount of alcohol that gets into the milk.

I've always gone by the driving sobriety rule but I rarely have more than a drink anyway because my tolerance level is shit. One glass of wine is more than enough!

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Apr 17, 2014 12:03:00 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

ive heard that. but ive also heard that its best to drink while nursing and that pumping and dumping is a waste.

This is what I would use to do, drink a half beer or some wine while I was actually nursing. 

But Karen Pryor recommends it to help the breastfeeding relationship (aka my BFing guru ha).

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Apr 17, 2014 12:12:03 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Apr 17, 2014 12:07:35 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I'd heard that the amount of alcohol present in breastmilk is similar to your BAC. So I guess by that measure, wouldn't that be one or two drinks? Because I don't consider myself okay to drive somewhere between one or two drinks depending on how I spaced them.

Basically, I don't consider this conflicting advice and/or I'm a lightweight. Or extra cautious about drunk driving, idk.

Yeah. I think you're right. For a normal person, it's probably the same thing. For someone who drinks almost every night of the week and has built up somewhat of a tolerance, could you run into the same issues as the morphine mom?

Is she still drinking every night though?

Because I had a pretty good tolerance pre-baby (not as good as my college days, lol) and although I did have an occasional half-glass of wine while pregnant, which I know is controversial in itself, post-baby my tolerance was so low.  I would have a half a beer, it would take me an hour to drink it, and then it would be warm and gross and I couldnt finish it.  So I just naturally was not drinking what I had been "used to" because 1) I didn't feel like it, and 2) my tolerance was considerably lower. 

I thought I was going to be one of those people who popped a bottle of champagne the day I got home from the hospital and I don't think I had a drink until I was a month post-partum.  it just did not appeal to me.

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Bah that is not good then. Tell her she will be too tired to drink that much, ha. But seriously, that was the other thing - a glass of wine knocked me out and I didnt want to be unable to wake up with Will.

I think the one drink rule is a good rule, because it is an objective thing. Well, maybe not if you make super strong drinks or like big glasses of wine, but for beer, its pretty simple. One and done.

[CallingAllAngels]

This is possibly a stupid question. I want to set up an appointment for a physical. I haven't had one in a million years. I also haven't had a pap since late 2010. Will they do a pap at my physical? Do I need to ask about it specifically? Also, my PCP is kind of hot, so I may need a new doctor if I'm going to have my PCP do my physical. If I'm done having kids, do I got back to the OB? Or just keep seeing my PCP? I don't know how this works, which is why I haven't had a pap since my youngest was born.

[statlerwaldorf]

Apr 17, 2014 14:29:27 GMT -5 CallingAllAngels said:

This is possibly a stupid question. I want to set up an appointment for a physical. I haven't had one in a million years. I also haven't had a pap since late 2010. Will they do a pap at my physical? Do I need to ask about it specifically? Also, my PCP is kind of hot, so I may need a new doctor if I'm going to have my PCP do my physical. If I'm done having kids, do I got back to the OB? Or just keep seeing my PCP? I don't know how this works, which is why I haven't had a pap since my youngest was born.

I've always had my pap done by my ob/gyn.  They are within the same network, so my PCP knew I was due for my pap and reminded me to make an appointment with my ob/gyn.  She didn't offer to do the pap herself, but maybe that's because I always went to my ob/gyn.

My yearly with my PCP is mostly blood work.  She checks my liver and kidneys because of one of the medications I was taking.  She also checks for cholesterol and some other things, but I really don't pay that much attention.

[CallingAllAngels]

Thank you, statlerwaldorf!