I'm not even really religious, but this comment is completely rubbing me the wrong way.
Okay?
I just find the Jewish religion to be so strong in its routes that it's relatively easy to trace back the origins of their traditions and practices. Christianity has evolved so much over time, adapting practices from other cultures and religions, that it's rather difficult to pinpoint the actual origins of some of the traditions.
Nobody ever starts an "Ask an Agnostic" thread. Hmpf.
Also, I love that whenever somebody asks a Jew a question, rjamz has a thorough, eloquent answer almost immediately. She asks the Christians a question and everybody is struggling to come up with a logical, cohesive response.
I'm not even really religious, but this comment is completely rubbing me the wrong way.
Me, too.
Christianity has many denominations. There are even denominations within denominations. Most of the things like eggs, Easter Bunny and Santa are rooted in pagan rituals to bring the pagans into the following of Christ.
FWIW, things like Santa and the Easter Bunny aren't even discussed in my denomination because they are not religious things and have zero to do with the resurrection or birth of Christ.
I didn't intend to start a religious fight, guys, I'm sorry. Judaism and Christianity are so different (and so similar in certain respects) and I liked getting all the different answers.
Also, I was enrolled in Jewish day school for 14 years - I absorbed A LOT of info. Some of it I don't even realize I know until you guys ask me and it pops out of my mouth (or fingers, as it were).
I didn't intend to start a religious fight, guys, I'm sorry. Judaism and Christianity are so different (and so similar in certain respects) and I liked getting all the different answers.
Also, I was enrolled in Jewish day school for 14 years - I absorbed A LOT of info. Some of it I don't even realize I know until you guys ask me and it pops out of my mouth (or fingers, as it were).
I never intended that, and if that's how you took it, I'm sorry. I just meant that there's rarely a clear answer when it comes to the origins of some of their traditions.
Eh, the Jewish faith has had about three millennia of oppression which has driven them to understand what makes them distinct.
Christians had about 400 years of oppression and a millennia of supremacy. There is no overarching Christian culture. We don't even agree on whether the trinity exists or not. Or if Jesus really rose again.
And really, the damn bunny is a part of western civilization's consumer culture.
I never intended that, and if that's how you took it, I'm sorry. I just meant that there's rarely a clear answer when it comes to the origins of some of their traditions.
I took it that way too. Maybe because I'm agnostic as well I didn't see where it was offensive. I agree that Jewish religion and culture are intertwined where Christianity is so diverse with cultures so it makes it all very interesting.
Post by southpoint on Apr 20, 2014 16:01:02 GMT -5
The eggs and bunnies are not part of Christian holiday of Easter. They originated from the Pagan celebration of fertility around the Spring Equinox. Most Christian holidays to coincide with Pagan celebrations in order to replace them.
I didn't know how this went and I came in here to say Jesus loves eggs and bunnies too but I think I missed the mark.
I'll just go back to wishing they gave chocolate out for communion. It goes better with wine.
Fun fact: the Catholic Church is the largest purchaser of kosher wine. They all use Manischewitz for communion wine bc it's low alcohol, sweet, and consistent in taste.
I didn't know how this went and I came in here to say Jesus loves eggs and bunnies too but I think I missed the mark.
I'll just go back to wishing they gave chocolate out for communion. It goes better with wine.
Fun fact: the Catholic Church is the largest purchaser of kosher wine. They all use Manischewitz for communion wine bc it's low alcohol, sweet, and consistent in taste.
That is a fun fact. I'm going to have to remember that one.
The eggs and bunnies are not part of Christian holiday of Easter. They originated from the Pagan celebration of fertility around the Spring Equinox. Most Christian holidays to coincide with Pagan celebrations in odder to replace them.
That is true for Christmas, but Easter actually is structured around the end of Passover, because that's when the crucifixion/resurrection occurred. That's why it changes every year.
The eggs and bunnies are not part of Christian holiday of Easter. They originated from the Pagan celebration of fertility around the Spring Equinox. Most Christian holidays to coincide with Pagan celebrations in odder to replace them.
That is true for Christmas, but Easter actually is structured around the end of Passover, because that's when the crucifixion/resurrection occurred. That's why it changes every year.
It is also true of Easter. It replaced the Pagan holiday of Ishtar. The symbols of Ishtar include eggs and bunnies.
That is true for Christmas, but Easter actually is structured around the end of Passover, because that's when the crucifixion/resurrection occurred. That's why it changes every year.
It is also true of Easter. It replaced the Pagan holiday of Ishtar. The symbols of Ishtar include eggs and bunnies.
Not quite. Many religions have and had spring celebrations, and eggs and rabbits have been symbols of life throughout history (ancient Egyptians are believed to be the first to dye eggs). It's true that as people converted to Christianity, they stopped celebrating (and were likely encouraged to stop celebrating) pagan holidays, but Easter has always coincided with the Jewish Passover.
The original purpose of the holiday was to celebrate the resurrection. The celebration of springtime is what was added in from pagan cultures.
Several people on FB have said "Christ is risen". I think I've seen it 4 times from all different unrelated people.
Is there a special reason why it is worded like that?
Because they don't know that the grammatically correct way is to say "Christ has risen." I believe "is risen" is from the way the ancient Greek is translated into English.
Several people on FB have said "Christ is risen". I think I've seen it 4 times from all different unrelated people.
Is there a special reason why it is worded like that?
Because they don't know that the grammatically correct way is to say "Christ has risen." I believe "is risen" is from the way the ancientĀ Greek is translated into English.
Yeah I googled it and got a translstion too. Didn't know if had any other significance or meaning.
Because they don't know that the grammatically correct way is to say "Christ has risen." I believe "is risen" is from the way the ancient Greek is translated into English.
Yeah I googled it and got a translstion too. Didn't know if had any other significance or meaning.
I think some people also like the present tense because it's a reminder that he is still risen, but no, I don't think there's much else beyond that.
Several people on FB have said "Christ is risen". I think I've seen it 4 times from all different unrelated people.
Is there a special reason why it is worded like that?
In the Catholic church we sing "Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again" during every mass. My priest stopped a school mass once to explain the significance of "is risen" vs "has risen." He said "has risen" denotes that it is past tense. We say that Jesus is risen because he is still very much alive still in heaven. If we said has risen, we would imply that we didn't believe that he was still alive.