Question about quitting -update

[crashgizmo]

I remember your posts on your job situation.

I think I would do #1 if you feel confident that you will get the offer and are okay not working if you don't. IIRC, you transitioned back from being a SAHM so I am assuming that financially you would still be okay? If not, then I would do #2. I think it's important that you talk directly to your boss, particularly because it has only been a short time and you will want to not burn bridges. Doing it while s/he is on vacation seems dickish to me.

[newmomnewjersey]

#2. I would NEVER quit without a written offer.

ETA: I agree that calling while you're on vacation is an asshole move, but probably the best option if you open with "I wanted to give you as much notice as possible and give you this info ASAP."

[noodleoo]

Jul 17, 2014 20:50:56 GMT -5 newmomnewjersey said:

#2. I would NEVER quit without a written offer.

ETA: I agree that calling while you're on vacation is an asshole move, but probably the best option if you open with "I wanted to give you as much notice as possible and give you this info ASAP."

Ditto this.  Sucks on the timing, but you have to do what works for you. 

And congrats on the offer!

ETA: I changed my mind. I'd see if I could negotiate to start later at the new job and wait until my boss gets back to tell her in person  (and not quit while on vacation, which does suck). Assuming you don't get the offer until mid next week, it would be asking them to wait maybe 3 weeks?  I'd see if you can swing that. Quitting while on vacation seems like too much on top of quitting afte less than 3 months. 

[imojoebunny]

#2 or #3. Don't quit without an offer. That is just cutting off your nose to spite your face, unless your just working for fun. If you can swing the extra time with the new employer, great, but if not, most people understand that two weeks is standard, even if the timing is not super. It is not like you will be using people you worked with for 3 months as references for long, if ever.

[agnes]

I personally would put in my notice now with the verbal offer. But then again, I've never had a written offer. Like ever.

[msmerymac]

Will your boss be out of the country? I would do #3, but also email my boss at the same time so s/he can be notified ASAP. That way, it kind of sucks, but your boss can also direct you to finish x, y, and z while you're still there. I'd also pick a start date that was after your boss got back so you can have a few overlapping days in the office.

[noodleoo]

Jul 17, 2014 22:18:04 GMT -5 @gingersb said:

Jul 17, 2014 21:21:05 GMT -5 noodleoo said:

ETA: I changed my mind. I'd see if I could negotiate to start later at the new job and wait until my boss gets back to tell her in person  (and not quit while on vacation, which does suck). Assuming you don't get the offer until mid next week, it would be asking them to wait maybe 3 weeks?  I'd see if you can swing that. Quitting while on vacation seems like too much on top of quitting afte less than 3 months. 

The problem there is that i would be asking new job to wait for 4-5 weeks after the offer before starting. That seems really long. I'm not sure how you were calculating the 3 weeks?

Yeah, I guess you are right.  I figured it might take a week to negotiate the offer and then I usually wait to give notice until they do the background check.  So I guess I'd wait for that stuff to be done and then give my notice to boss's boss in person. 

Definitely dont one give notice until you get the salary!!

[IrishBelle]

I wouldn't quit without a written offer so I'd do #2.

[bostonmichelle]

I would do either 2 or 3. It may take a while for the references and pulling the letter together and then there is always negotiation time. I'd also try and make sure that your last days are after your boss comes back from vacation.

[kadams767]

Jul 17, 2014 23:13:19 GMT -5 @gingersb said:

I should add that whether I do #2 or #3, I would offer to work two full weeks after I return from vacation. So for #2, I'd be giving a bit longer than the standard 2 weeks notice, depending on when I actually get the offer.

That isn't really longer than a standard two week notice, given that you would be on vacation when you quit.  Do what you'd like, but please don't pretend that you are doing them some sort of favor by "offering" to work for two weeks.  Quitting while you are on vacation, using vacation days that you haven't even accrued yet, is not very professional, IMO. 

[imojoebunny]

I am curious what the posters think would be "professional" to do? Cancel the vacation OP had planned likely before OP even started the current job? Ask OP's new employer for a month before she starts, two weeks for bosses vacation and two weeks notice? Turn down the other job because even though the one OP in is not a good fit, OP owes it to them to stay longer?

Something else?

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Jul 18, 2014 8:47:03 GMT -5 imojoebunny said:

I am curious what the posters think would be "professional" to do? Cancel the vacation OP had planned likely before OP even started the current job? Ask OP's new employer for a month before she starts, two weeks for bosses vacation and two weeks notice? Turn down the other job because even though the one OP in is not a good fit, OP owes it to them to stay longer?

Something else?

You're missing the point.  she asked what is the most professional way to do this.  People are telling her none of these are professional and there probably isn't a professional way of doing it given the circumstances.

I see nobody even hinting at cancelling the vacation. 

[kadams767]

Jul 18, 2014 8:47:03 GMT -5 imojoebunny said:

I am curious what the posters think would be "professional" to do? Cancel the vacation OP had planned likely before OP even started the current job? Ask OP's new employer for a month before she starts, two weeks for bosses vacation and two weeks notice? Turn down the other job because even though the one OP in is not a good fit, OP owes it to them to stay longer?

Something else?

The most professional thing to do, IMO, would be wait to get the actual offer and salary and go from there.  And no, I would never quit a job while I was on vacation.  So yes, I would come back from vacation and quit if that is what it came down to, and tell the new job that I was accepting the offer but needed to give my notice and would keep them posted as to when I could actually start.  As someone else said, I wouldn't really bet on current company having her work out the two weeks anyhow, so the actual timeframe is a moot point almost in my mind.  She's worked there for 3 months, I don't see a company really needing her to work out the last two weeks.

[Balki.Bartokomous]

Any way you play it isn't really professional.

I think you should at least give them the courtesy of looking them in the eye when you give notice, so I'd give notice to your boss's boss the day you come back & tell them that you weren't able to convey this to your boss before she left, so she isn't made to look party to this surprise in any way. And then like @rock-n-Voll said, be prepared to be walked out & to owe them 2 days of pay.

Also, quitting before getting a written offer is pretty foolish. So many things can go wrong, and IF you do get the written offer, then your new company will just have to wait.

"Thank you for the offer. I'm actually on vacation this week & would like to be able to give notice when I get back on the 28th, so my start date can be no sooner than two weeks from that date. I'm sure you understand that I don't want to leave my current employer in a bind."

If they don't understand & are willing to hire an employee who would screw their current company, I'd be wary of the kind of employer they are.

[spunkarella]

Good luck with whatever you decide. FWIW, I quit a professional job after 3.5 months and they absolutely wanted me to work out my two weeks because they needed the help. They kept me busy until 5pm on my last day. I was also secretly hoping for a walk-out when I gave notice, lol.

[Deleted]

I don't know if anyone cares but I do know I like updates so I'm giving one anyway :-)

Update in OP.

[scout8]

Happy to hear it went well!

[WinterWine]

I'm glad you were able to wait for her to return!! Congrats on the new gig :-)

[lolo]

Wow, that's a great update. Best of luck in the new gig.