You are being purposely obtuse here. Several other posters have provided FACTS with how different and how much more someone is distracted by using their cellphone while operating a vehicle. You are blatantly choosing to ignore those facts in order to favor your own opinion that it is harmless.
By your logic, let's just all stop wearing seat belts in cars and helmets on motorcycle. Because wearing a helmet or a seatbelt doesn't negate every single theoretical risk, so what is the point right?
ETA because this topic always makes me rage: Not everyone HAS the experience yet to be able to figure things out, and the whole human error thing. You really want to say it is OK for a teenager to be on their phone when they by default don't have the experience? What about the oldz, there are cases where they can have issues as well, but HEY LETS ALL CHECK OUR PHONES! And you know what, sometimes lights do weird things. I've been at lights where it completely skips a cycle when it isn't supposed to. And yes, as I will reiterate, let's just start going forward when your neighbor starts moving, except OOPS your neighbor is turning left and you've just side-swiped a car turning left in front of you. But at least you could send that text message.
Ok, I've clearly said multiple times that I have no interest in defending cellphone use while driving. People are trying to drag me into a debate that I do not want to have and repeatedly have said that I do not want to have. That is the reason that I haven't dragged out sources.
I don't see the point in saying anything else.
So then we are agreement, you shouldn't use your cellphone while at a stop light because you are still driving or operating a vehicle at that time. Though because you think that I've dragged you into a debate, I would like to point that no where in my post did I say your definition of "driving" and was referring specifically to your definition of not driving because someone is at a stoplight.
Just because you may not be currently in motion doesn't mean you are any less distracted by phone usage.
I swear we have done this thread already. And I've hardly read any of it.
We have. Which is why I'm not posting any of the data. I refuse to continue to do research for people who have no interest in actually reading any of it.
I swear we have done this thread already. And I've hardly read any of it.
We have. Which is why I'm not posting any of the data. I refuse to continue to do research for people who have no interest in actually reading any of it.
As to if you are still distracted more/less by checking texts or a sending a quick text, I couldn't find anything, but I only looked a couple places and primarily the recent studies have been based on age and driving ability white distracted and not on accidents during stopped. I actually ran into someone who was stopped a couple years ago - bumper-to-bumper traffic and I looked down while going about 3 mph to change the station and about 3 seconds later, I ran into the back of the truck in front of me and totaled my older car.
Ok, I've clearly said multiple times that I have no interest in defending cellphone use while driving. People are trying to drag me into a debate that I do not want to have and repeatedly have said that I do not want to have. That is the reason that I haven't dragged out sources.
I don't see the point in saying anything else.
So then we are agreement, you shouldn't use your cellphone while at a stop light because you are still driving or operating a vehicle at that time. Though because you think that I've dragged you into a debate, I would like to point that no where in my post did I say your definition of "driving" and was referring specifically to your definition of not driving because someone is at a stoplight.
Just because you may not be currently in motion doesn't mean you are any less distracted by phone usage.
My comment was general, it was not specifically directed at you. I am tired of this and I have to go to a meeting so I will not reply further.
It has been an interesting day to say the least. I know where to go the next time I am feeling cold and want to warm up in a baptism of fire.
^^ Locks the phone when you go above a certain speed. Apple also apparently has a patent to be able to do that on the iphones.
I'm wondering if dh would be pissed if I downloaded that on his phone without him knowing it. I, literally, have to take his phone and sit on it when he's driving. He does it so often that he doesn't even realize that he's reaching for his phone when it goes off.
Post by stealthmom on Jul 31, 2014 16:10:19 GMT -5
My mom used to commute driving a stick, with a cigarette in one hand and coffee in the other (no cup holders in her '67 bug! ) while putting on makeup.
It is no surprise she thinks drivers today are all unskilled dimwhits.
^^ Locks the phone when you go above a certain speed. Apple also apparently has a patent to be able to do that on the iphones.
I'm wondering if dh would be pissed if I downloaded that on his phone without him knowing it. I, literally, have to take his phone and sit on it when he's driving. He does it so often that he doesn't even realize that he's reaching for his phone when it goes off.
See, I had asked in the last debate if there was something that did this. Interesting.
Does it allow you to select over-rides? e.g. if my H or daycare are trying to reach me I want them to be able to get thru but it can tell everyone else can go pound sand (politely).
I had downloaded Safely Go but the last update makes it crash when you try and turn it on (awesome).
ETA: Looks like they went out of business, because their website is now held by a squatter.
^^ Locks the phone when you go above a certain speed. Apple also apparently has a patent to be able to do that on the iphones.
I'm wondering if dh would be pissed if I downloaded that on his phone without him knowing it. I, literally, have to take his phone and sit on it when he's driving. He does it so often that he doesn't even realize that he's reaching for his phone when it goes off.
Apple has a patent on this but IIRC there are several other similar technologies that do the same regardless of OS. My company is deploying a mobile device management system for all 2000+ of our mobile devices and the ability of the MDM app to lock a phone after a certain speed was one of the options we could've opted to add.
^^ Locks the phone when you go above a certain speed. Apple also apparently has a patent to be able to do that on the iphones.
I'm wondering if dh would be pissed if I downloaded that on his phone without him knowing it. I, literally, have to take his phone and sit on it when he's driving. He does it so often that he doesn't even realize that he's reaching for his phone when it goes off.
See, I had asked in the last debate if there was something that did this. Interesting.
Does it allow you to select over-rides? e.g. if my H or daycare are trying to reach me I want them to be able to get thru but it can tell everyone else can go pound sand (politely).
I had downloaded Safely Go but the last update makes it crash when you try and turn it on (awesome).
ETA: Looks like they went out of business, because their website is now held by a squatter.
dammit. There are other options, I just chose to link this one.
I swear we have done this thread already. And I've hardly read any of it.
We have. Which is why I'm not posting any of the data. I refuse to continue to do research for people who have no interest in actually reading any of it.
If it makes you feel any better, a prior discussion here convinced me to stop using my phone at red lights. One down, billions to go.