I get the outrage. until the justice system works for all I have a hard time getting angry at people who are fed up with waiting.
I understand the anger but looting Quiktrip isn't going to make juries less racist and less inclined to view young black men and dangerous.
I don't know what the answer is. Maybe there is none and it's just a matter of time before the nation descends into either a police state or civil war.
My facebook feed has alot of pray for everyone involved and some such and such restaurant (owned by this person's family member) in ferguson is ok/flower shop (where another person worked through high school and college)in ferguson is ok/my parents/grandparents are fine as people are asking. Not much commentary other than the whole situation is sad.
I am so sad that the first time I heard about this story was this morning on my local radio show considering this happened SATURDAY. This is frustrating and terrifying. It is a horrible reality for black men, young and old. I plead with my DH to always please be careful since I know anything can happen.
iammalcolmx, did you hear that lady's story this morning about how her husband and 7yo son were pulled over near Atlantic Station yesterday? For everyone else, the guy made an illegal left turn trying to cut through GA Tech's campus. He admitted wrongdoing and when he was waiting for his ticket in his car, the police officer told him to get out of the car. The police officer then told him he had a warrant out for his arrest and handcuffed him. Apparently, he has a fraud alert on his driver's license since he was the victim of identity theft. However, the police officer didn't bother to listen to the man about the protocol. The man is supposed to provide a password to the police officer to prove he is who he says he is and not the guy who stole his identity. Only when another squad car drove up did the officer bother to check the man's story and found the password in the system. Once the man gave his password to the officer, the officer removed the handcuffs and then chastised him and told him what he was supposed to do next time. The poor 7 year old boy watched and silently cried the entire time.
I am heartbroken because I am pretty sure that man was actually being respectful during this incident. The fact that his son had to witness the police harrassing him for trying to prove he was the person on the license makes me feel like black men will never win, whether they fight or try to be respectful. How do I teach my son that in order to avoid getting himself killed, he needs to take so much abuse even though he was in the right and the police officer was in the wrong? I cried in my car just thinking about how this poor young man in STL was shot while he was unarmed, then about this father being harrassed in front of his child.
I had a family member recently go through something similar. The officer said he didn't use his blinker and pulled him over. Apparently, said family member thought he'd paid a ticket an did not, therefore there was a bench warrant out for him. He never received any info stating there was one.
He had his wife and baby in the car. He was handcuffed, taken to the station and booked. As my family relayed the story to their white friends every.single.white.person, was just given a ticket/warning and told to take care of it at the first opportunity. My family member was never given that option. He has no prior arrests or anything, and has a business where this arrest could seriously effect future business.
It is ridiculous the way people of color are treated by some police. Guilty until proven innocent, harsher charges and sentences, and people wonder why people of color have an issue with police.
There was a whole day of peaceful protests over Michael's death that the national news couldn't be bothered to cover the same way another black kid getting shot wasn't covered. But the minute they weren't peaceful, everyone has to pray for Ferguson because violence isn't the way. I fucking hate this story.
There was supposed to be a rally today, and the police have said that they will arrest anyone who shows up. First Amendment wut?
The radio host in my city is crying on air while discussing. I seriously get ready thinkingng about it. I'm really tired of it. It makes me nervous for my brother, husband, and my friends raising sons. We are constantly teaching our men to be "non- threatening". Look down, say sir, let all officers you know you are unarmed, don't walk in groups, etc.
These are conversations that black parents have with their kids, hell this is a conversation I've had with my black male students. I work with students with behavior problems and they have issues with authority. I always, always, ALWAYS remind them and tell them how their looks and actions *may* be perceived and that they need to be extra cautious. And the parents are so thankful that I'm trying to keep their kids safe.
100% This.
I hate, hate, hate driving through the south, especially areas I'm not familiar with. You hope not to get a ticket, because you just never know who you're going to get. Of course you should follow the law, but even doing that, doesn't always prevent you from being pulled over.
It is disheartening and humiliating to see DH cow tow to police, so that nothing is misconstrued as disrespect, so a simple stop isn't escalated. I feel this way about any police stop, but even more so, in the south.
I only like for DH to stop at Travel Center gas stations or highways/roads with lots of restaurants and gas stations. None of these small gas stations in the rural south. Nope, nope, nope.
Yeah, but yesterday's main headline on CNN was a story that can be basically summed up as a racing accident. Racing accidents, even those involving deaths, happen all of the time all across the united states, but because it involved a star, it was bigger news than atrocities happening both foreign and in this case, obviously domestic.
Post by gretchenindisguise on Aug 11, 2014 11:36:35 GMT -5
Anonymous made a statement:
"Anonymous demands that the Congressional Representatives and Senators from Missouri introduce legislation entitled “Mike Brown’s Law” that will set strict national standards for police conduct in the USA. We further demand that this new law include specific language to grant the victims of police violence the same rights and prerogatives that are already enjoyed nationwide by the victims of other violent criminals. The Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution demands nothing less.
To the good people of Ferguson, take heart – and take your streets. You are not alone, we will support you in every way possible. Occupy every square inch of your city. Open your homes and help in any way you can the protesters who will come to your city from every part of Missouri and the USA. Businesses and householders that are near protest rallies, open your WiFi routers so that live streamers and other independent journalists can use the Internet connections. Feed each other, keep each other safe – and stay in the streets until we are totally victorious in all our demands.
To the Ferguson Police Department and any other jurisdictions who are deployed to the protests: we are watching you very closely. If you abuse, harass – or harm in any way the protesters in Ferguson we will take every web based asset of your departments and governments off line. That is not a threat, it is a promise. If you attack the protesters, we will attack every server and computer you have. We will dox and release the personal information on every single member of the Ferguson Police Department, as well as any other jurisdiction that participates in the abuse. We will seize all your databases and E-Mail spools and dump them on the Internet. This is your only warning."
I am so sad that the first time I heard about this story was this morning on my local radio show considering this happened SATURDAY. This is frustrating and terrifying. It is a horrible reality for black men, young and old. I plead with my DH to always please be careful since I know anything can happen.
iammalcolmx, did you hear that lady's story this morning about how her husband and 7yo son were pulled over near Atlantic Station yesterday? For everyone else, the guy made an illegal left turn trying to cut through GA Tech's campus. He admitted wrongdoing and when he was waiting for his ticket in his car, the police officer told him to get out of the car. The police officer then told him he had a warrant out for his arrest and handcuffed him. Apparently, he has a fraud alert on his driver's license since he was the victim of identity theft. However, the police officer didn't bother to listen to the man about the protocol. The man is supposed to provide a password to the police officer to prove he is who he says he is and not the guy who stole his identity. Only when another squad car drove up did the officer bother to check the man's story and found the password in the system. Once the man gave his password to the officer, the officer removed the handcuffs and then chastised him and told him what he was supposed to do next time. The poor 7 year old boy watched and silently cried the entire time.
I am heartbroken because I am pretty sure that man was actually being respectful during this incident. The fact that his son had to witness the police harrassing him for trying to prove he was the person on the license makes me feel like black men will never win, whether they fight or try to be respectful. How do I teach my son that in order to avoid getting himself killed, he needs to take so much abuse even though he was in the right and the police officer was in the wrong? I cried in my car just thinking about how this poor young man in STL was shot while he was unarmed, then about this father being harrassed in front of his child.
I had a family member recently go through something similar. The officer said he didn't use his blinker and pulled him over. Apparently, said family member thought he'd paid a ticket an did not, therefore there was a bench warrant out for him. He never received any info stating there was one.
He had his wife and baby in the car. He was handcuffed, taken to the station and booked. As my family relayed the story to their white friends every.single.white.person, was just given a ticket/warning and told to take care of it at the first opportunity. My family member was never given that option. He has no prior arrests or anything, and has a business where this arrest could seriously effect future business.
It is ridiculous the way people of color are treated by some police. Guilty until proven innocent, harsher charges and sentences, and people wonder why people of color have an issue with police.
Totally anecdontal, but my DH has been arrested twice for bench warrants after a routine traffic stop. He is terrible at paying tickets on time and so he was arrested once on New Years Eve when he didn't stop fully while driving downtown and they found he had a $30 unpaid ticket from 4 years before = bench warrant. Second time I think it was a $60 speeding ticket he didn't pay and was pulled over on the way to work and was hauled off to jail. I think bench warrants, in general, should be revamped in the justice system. There is NO need to send someone to jail for an unpaid ticket - that is utter BS. Both times the officers claimed they couldn't look to see if they were violent issues which warranted being rough and treating my DH badly, so they just were rough and mean - actually the judge in one case made the officer apologize IN COURT for an obvious bruise when they went the next day. No civil, "Hold on, it looks like you have a bench warrant. Do you know why or do you want me to figure this out while you sit in my car?"
I'm white and I'll be honest that I don't tell my kids to go to cops for help either, there are too many instances of cops assuming the worst and being assholes - I mean they see the worst of society, but I think they are conditioned to do that also. I think there should be major changes - no kid, ESPECIALLY a young black kid going to see his Grandmother, should die like that. Paid-adminstrative leave for the cop - f-that, he should be in jail awaiting trial?!?!
"Anonymous demands that the Congressional Representatives and Senators from Missouri introduce legislation entitled “Mike Brown’s Law” that will set strict national standards for police conduct in the USA. We further demand that this new law include specific language to grant the victims of police violence the same rights and prerogatives that are already enjoyed nationwide by the victims of other violent criminals. The Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution demands nothing less.
To the good people of Ferguson, take heart – and take your streets. You are not alone, we will support you in every way possible. Occupy every square inch of your city. Open your homes and help in any way you can the protesters who will come to your city from every part of Missouri and the USA. Businesses and householders that are near protest rallies, open your WiFi routers so that live streamers and other independent journalists can use the Internet connections. Feed each other, keep each other safe – and stay in the streets until we are totally victorious in all our demands.
To the Ferguson Police Department and any other jurisdictions who are deployed to the protests: we are watching you very closely. If you abuse, harass – or harm in any way the protesters in Ferguson we will take every web based asset of your departments and governments off line. That is not a threat, it is a promise. If you attack the protesters, we will attack every server and computer you have. We will dox and release the personal information on every single member of the Ferguson Police Department, as well as any other jurisdiction that participates in the abuse. We will seize all your databases and E-Mail spools and dump them on the Internet. This is your only warning."
This was from a npr article. I am so grossed out by everyonoe talking pics/videos. This is more of a judgement on our society and not these actual people.
This was from a npr article. I am so grossed out by everyonoe talking pics/videos. This is more of a judgement on our society and not these actual people.
Why are you grossed out by people taking pictures?
I went through an read @vandalyzm tweets. The police trapped them in!?!
I don't twitter, can you summarize what happened according to twitter?
The police showed up for the peaceful prayer vigil in riot gear with K9s, they blocked all the intersections in/out of Ferguson. Then the rioting started. All accounts from people there seem to have the same feeling of the police wanting the people at the vigil to start something.
This was from a npr article. I am so grossed out by everyonoe talking pics/videos. This is more of a judgement on our society and not these actual people.
Why are you grossed out by people taking pictures?
It seems as a society that is our first reaction to a moment. I am weird about technology and how it infiltrates our lives.
Why are you grossed out by people taking pictures?
It seems as a society that is our first reaction to a moment. I am weird about technology and how it infiltrates our lives.
I have no issue with people taking pictures when the riot police are out. Seems to me its a good idea to pull out a camera if you are in danger of having police officers whup your ass. In other circumstances I could see feeling some type of way about it.
I don't twitter, can you summarize what happened according to twitter?
The police showed up for the peaceful prayer vigil in riot gear with K9s, they blocked all the intersections in/out of Ferguson. Then the rioting started. All accounts from people there seem to have the same feeling of the police wanting the people at the vigil to start something.
Terrible - this NPR interview with a former Seattle police chief has a huge part about showing up for protests in full gear and how the police chief realized it CREATED conflict and issues with his own staff.
Why are you grossed out by people taking pictures?
It seems as a society that is our first reaction to a moment. I am weird about technology and how it infiltrates our lives.
But it's also a link b/c we are so visual and having someone you know in the middle of a crisis that they can share their POV is a huge connection point.
Why are you grossed out by people taking pictures?
It seems as a society that is our first reaction to a moment. I am weird about technology and how it infiltrates our lives.
Without people taking pictures and video, we wouldn't know half the stuff that happened in Ferguson. I'm glad so many citizens were there with cameras .
It seems as a society that is our first reaction to a moment. I am weird about technology and how it infiltrates our lives.
I have no issue with people taking pictures when the riot police are out. Seems to me its a good idea to pull out a camera if you are in danger of having police officers whup your ass. In other circumstances I could see feeling some type of way about it.
There is video of the police throwing a woman on the ground who claims to be 6 months pregnant. If all is true and something happens to her baby, she'll be glad someone tape it.