So you guys are ok with outing IP addresses

[stealthmom]

Aug 17, 2014 17:33:51 GMT -5 EllieArroway said:

Aug 17, 2014 17:32:47 GMT -5 stealthmom said:

wait, so she posted here as Hawkeye then?

Yes. See my edit, I added an explanation.

thanks. Sorry I-m slow.

[Deleted]

@eveer, you have to recall that Lys, despite being a boil on the ass of CEP is actually a reasonable, somewhat normal poster on the rest of GBCN. Now, I don't like it either, trust me. But I don't think it's the same at all.

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Aug 17, 2014 17:38:18 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

@eveer, you have to recall that Lys, despite being a boil on the ass of CEP is actually a reasonable, somewhat normal poster on the rest of GBCN. Now, I don't like it either, trust me. But I don't think it's the same at all.

That maybe so. And perhaps Hayworth is also lovely on a different forum? Maybe one not connected in any way to this one. And perhaps both are wonderful in real life? But I cant speak for that - I am on the CEP board, so all I see is Lys the Fox-o-bot spouting bollocks and running. I guess what I am saying is it doesn't sit right with me - we tolerate Lys on this board, this is the baord that has a problem with Hayworth, and so this is the board where we decide how we treat people regardless of what they do elsewhere. Kinda like, I feel Lys being nice somewhere else is "inadmissible evidence" in the Hayworth / Lys comparison trial lol.

Having said that, I did not read all of the racism post, and I am not defending Hayworth as I don't know what she said or what happened. I guess its the principle of it.

I do think outing IP addresses is not the way to go. Banning is adequate and less personally invasive. It seems like a low blow to me. I am not saying it was or wasn't deserved, just that it makes me uncomfortable if we start doing that sort of thing because someone was a dick on the internet.

[Velar Fricative]

I have noticed we are far less tolerant of Lys these days. Before I used to read her posts and just roll my eyes but now I reply and I'm not very nice when doing so, particularly when she's offensive (like she has been doing in Michael Brown threads) vs. posting Republican arguments. Other people are doing the same.

[pixy0stix]

Aug 17, 2014 18:46:57 GMT -5 @eveer said:

I do think outing IP addresses is not the way to go. Banning is adequate and less personally invasive. It seems like a low blow to me. I am not saying it was or wasn't deserved, just that it makes me uncomfortable if we start doing that sort of thing because someone was a dick on the internet.

See, I'm the opposite. I'd rather know the whole history of the poster and let them make the decision to stay or leave, rather than banning them outright.

[jillboston]

Aug 17, 2014 19:12:03 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Aug 17, 2014 18:46:57 GMT -5 @eveer said:

I do think outing IP addresses is not the way to go. Banning is adequate and less personally invasive. It seems like a low blow to me. I am not saying it was or wasn't deserved, just that it makes me uncomfortable if we start doing that sort of thing because someone was a dick on the internet.

See, I'm the opposite. I'd rather know the whole history of the poster and let them make the decision to stay or leave, rather than banning them outright.

Wait- was Hayworth banned? I didn't know that.

[pixy0stix]

Aug 17, 2014 19:15:28 GMT -5 jillboston said:

Aug 17, 2014 19:12:03 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

See, I'm the opposite. I'd rather know the whole history of the poster and let them make the decision to stay or leave, rather than banning them outright.

Wait- was Hayworth banned? I didn't know that.

No, I think she just left.

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[jillboston]

Aug 17, 2014 19:15:52 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Aug 17, 2014 19:15:28 GMT -5 jillboston said:

Wait- was Hayworth banned? I didn't know that.

No, I think she just left.

Ok - then I'm not sure what the issue is here. As long as Hayworth was not banned then I have no issue with exposing AEs (I hate AE btw. either be who you are or not - it's not as though we're using our own names)

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Aug 17, 2014 18:46:57 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Aug 17, 2014 17:38:18 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

@eveer, you have to recall that Lys, despite being a boil on the ass of CEP is actually a reasonable, somewhat normal poster on the rest of GBCN. Now, I don't like it either, trust me. But I don't think it's the same at all.

That maybe so. And perhaps Hayworth is also lovely on a different forum? Maybe one not connected in any way to this one. And perhaps both are wonderful in real life? But I cant speak for that - I am on the CEP board, so all I see is Lys the Fox-o-bot spouting bollocks and running. I guess what I am saying is it doesn't sit right with me - we tolerate Lys on this board, this is the baord that has a problem with Hayworth, and so this is the board where we decide how we treat people regardless of what they do elsewhere. Kinda like, I feel Lys being nice somewhere else is "inadmissible evidence" in the Hayworth / Lys comparison trial lol.

Having said that, I did not read all of the racism post, and I am not defending Hayworth as I don't know what she said or what happened. I guess its the principle of it.

I do think outing IP addresses is not the way to go. Banning is adequate and less personally invasive. It seems like a low blow to me. I am not saying it was or wasn't deserved, just that it makes me uncomfortable if we start doing that sort of thing because someone was a dick on the internet.

Yes but Lys hasn't been nasty directly. She also isn't baity. Hayworth was both. She posted shit to be an asshole and then she lashed out like an asshole when people gave her the side eye. Lys is an annoying little parrot but she isn't out to get anyone. 

Read the racism thread and then we can discuss the particulars.

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[NewOrleans]

I just skimmed the "no clothes for fat people" thread and @dontcallmeshirley made this post in it as a recap. LOL!


no cute clothes for fatties, especially fat kids

that's shaming and won't cause people to lose weight, anyway

I'm __ tall and __ pounds and can deadlift a whale and am "obese"

Ins and outs about clothing manufacturing and why it's more expensive to make fatty clothes

Society

Self-responsibility !

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[eclaires]

I want to know who tolerates lys. To me it seems like she is either ignored or people are like "yeah okay. Source?" And then sometimes voodoo calls her a racist shitpig (or something similar).

Hayworth was actually interacting with us and name calling. And trying to stir up drama. I don't think lys tries to stir up drama, and be a troll. I just think she regurgitates talking points if a post catches her fancy. She almost never interacts with us and is a total joke IMO.

[NewOrleans]

Aug 17, 2014 18:46:57 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Aug 17, 2014 17:38:18 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

 we tolerate Lys on this board

I cannot express my indignation about this enough, lol.  We do not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eclaires]

Also to be clear I don't think people ignore her out of tolerance of her shit, we ignore her because it never goes anywhere. Engaging is pretty much a waste unless you just want to get a laugh or release some aggression. Both of which I wholeheartedly support.

[pixy0stix]

The only time I agree with lys is in the poverty threads. Mostly because she's relating her experience and not regurgitating something.

[Deleted]

Come back to me when lys calls someone an illiterate cunt. And fwiw, we are far meaner to Lys than Lys has ever been to the vast majority of us.

Hayworth is the Rush Limbaugh to Lys's Shepherd Smith.

[ESF]

Lys fascinates me. I can't figure out if:

1. she posts what she does not because she believes it but because watching our reaction is a source of never ending joy to her, and by reacting, we are all just playing into her sick games, or
2. she posts despite the hostile reaction because she believes she's a martyr for her cause and just takes the beatings like she's the Silas of the Wingnut Opus Dei.

[teflepi]

Aug 17, 2014 20:58:33 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

Come back to me when lys calls someone an illiterate cunt. And fwiw, we are far meaner to Lys than Lys has ever been to the vast majority of us.

Hayworth is the Rush Limbaugh to Lys's Shepherd Smith.

This. Lys has never called us pigs or bitches etc.  We, on the other hand, have gone Mean Girls on her often.  Intolerating her posts is one thing, but the board has gone close to going over the edge, imo.  I don't care, but know we aren't mean to most so it sticks out.

[wawa]

Aug 17, 2014 3:26:00 GMT -5 downtoearth said:

Aug 17, 2014 0:21:20 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

YO! WHAT IS THIS???

WTF? Where did you find that and why does it exist? I'm so confused how 90's music got you this.

Reading all this was just the start to my week that I needed.

I just want to add that my first thought on the pic above was Steven Tyler lips.

And that I have been in shadow's elevator. (Which was in the house (historic home) when they bought it but didn't work. Afaik they don't use it)

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Aug 17, 2014 21:19:38 GMT -5 teflepi said:

Aug 17, 2014 20:58:33 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

Come back to me when lys calls someone an illiterate cunt. And fwiw, we are far meaner to Lys than Lys has ever been to the vast majority of us.

Hayworth is the Rush Limbaugh to Lys's Shepherd Smith.

This. Lys has never called us pigs or bitches etc.  We, on the other hand, have gone Mean Girls on her often.  Intolerating her posts is one thing, but the board has gone close to going over the edge, imo.  I don't care, but know we aren't mean to most so it sticks out.

Then we ought to all out our own IP addresses, right? Because me, and various others on here, have said rude nasty things to Lys. Im joking - this is not snark against you Tef - its just the layers of hypocrisy keep on building! 

[eclaires]

Aug 18, 2014 6:10:04 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Aug 17, 2014 21:19:38 GMT -5 teflepi said:

This. Lys has never called us pigs or bitches etc.  We, on the other hand, have gone Mean Girls on her often.  Intolerating her posts is one thing, but the board has gone close to going over the edge, imo.  I don't care, but know we aren't mean to most so it sticks out.

Then we ought to all out our own IP addresses, right? Because me, and various others on here, have said rude nasty things to Lys. Im joking - this is not snark against you Tef - its just the layers of hypocrisy keep on building! 

But there's nothing to out.  Hayworth's IP address wasn't outed.  Ellie simply confirmed that she had the same IP as a former regular - hawkeye.  None of us know hawkeye's IP either, we just know that hawkeye and hayworth are most likely the same person, or at the very least, live together.  For the rest of us, lys included, there's nothing to out, because we're either up front about who we used to be if we've changed our names, or we've never had another name.  Or, as far as AEs go, we have ones from Halloween/AE day or ones that have people post to use personal info they don't want tied to their regular name, which everyone has agreed shouldn't be outed.  None of that was the case with hayworth/hawkeye.

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Aug 18, 2014 6:15:05 GMT -5 eclaires said:

Aug 18, 2014 6:10:04 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Then we ought to all out our own IP addresses, right? Because me, and various others on here, have said rude nasty things to Lys. Im joking - this is not snark against you Tef - its just the layers of hypocrisy keep on building! 

But there's nothing to out.  Hayworth's IP address wasn't outed.  Ellie simply confirmed that she had the same IP as a former regular - hawkeye.  None of us know hawkeye's IP either, we just know that hawkeye and hayworth are most likely the same person, or at the very least, live together.  For the rest of us, lys included, there's nothing to out, because we're either up front about who we used to be if we've changed our names, or we've never had another name.  Or, as far as AEs go, we have ones from Halloween/AE day or ones that have people post to use personal info they don't want tied to their regular name, which everyone has agreed shouldn't be outed.  None of that was the case with hayworth/hawkeye.

Oh, in that case I totally misunderstood! No worries then. I was under the impression that the IP address had been outed. If not, and Hayworth just left after being an ass, fair enough.

[NewOrleans]

Aug 18, 2014 6:43:06 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Aug 18, 2014 6:15:05 GMT -5 eclaires said:

But there's nothing to out.  Hayworth's IP address wasn't outed.  Ellie simply confirmed that she had the same IP as a former regular - hawkeye.  None of us know hawkeye's IP either, we just know that hawkeye and hayworth are most likely the same person, or at the very least, live together.  For the rest of us, lys included, there's nothing to out, because we're either up front about who we used to be if we've changed our names, or we've never had another name.  Or, as far as AEs go, we have ones from Halloween/AE day or ones that have people post to use personal info they don't want tied to their regular name, which everyone has agreed shouldn't be outed.  None of that was the case with hayworth/hawkeye.

Oh, in that case I totally misunderstood! No worries then. I was under the impression that the IP address had been outed. If not, and Hayworth just left after being an ass, fair enough.

Nope.  No one revealed an ip, just said one's matched another's.  . Hayworth left all on her own after rabidly insulting 8/10 people in the thread.  It was like Young Guns up in there.

[eclaires]

Aug 18, 2014 6:43:06 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Aug 18, 2014 6:15:05 GMT -5 eclaires said:

But there's nothing to out.  Hayworth's IP address wasn't outed.  Ellie simply confirmed that she had the same IP as a former regular - hawkeye.  None of us know hawkeye's IP either, we just know that hawkeye and hayworth are most likely the same person, or at the very least, live together.  For the rest of us, lys included, there's nothing to out, because we're either up front about who we used to be if we've changed our names, or we've never had another name.  Or, as far as AEs go, we have ones from Halloween/AE day or ones that have people post to use personal info they don't want tied to their regular name, which everyone has agreed shouldn't be outed.  None of that was the case with hayworth/hawkeye.

Oh, in that case I totally misunderstood! No worries then. I was under the impression that the IP address had been outed. If not, and Hayworth just left after being an ass, fair enough.

In fairness to you, Hayworth's OP (this post) is completely misleading, lol.  

[aurora]

Aug 17, 2014 21:07:30 GMT -5 ESF said:

Lys fascinates me. I can't figure out if:

1. she posts what she does not because she believes it but because watching our reaction is a source of never ending joy to her, and by reacting, we are all just playing into her sick games, or
2. she posts despite the hostile reaction because she believes she's a martyr for her cause and just takes the beatings like she's the Silas of the Wingnut Opus Dei.

Maybe she's really a raging liberal but by posting Fox News talking points she knows her true views will be stated much more enthusiastically by all of us who argue back.

Very clever, lys.

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Aug 18, 2014 6:43:06 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Oh, in that case I totally misunderstood! No worries then. I was under the impression that the IP address had been outed. If not, and Hayworth just left after being an ass, fair enough.

Yeah, I think we all agree that actually posting an IP address for any reason is a bridge too far. Personally, I don't care because there's only so much you can do with one, despite all the paranoia to the contrary. But there's no reason to post it. It doesn't accomplish anything. And people do get all het up over that shit. So yeah.

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I think we also tolerate lys bc there is enough cross over with MM on here and there she is a pretty different person. She actually shares details of her life which make her seem human and less "robotic."

And since I know you all are dying for my opinion I am not okay with outing IP addresses but that's not what happened here so it's all okay in my book.