But that involves a) bringing something back that I can't get at home, and b) coming home, where it's easier to deal with cleaning up spills and washing clothes if something happens.
It's not because we're going on a nice vacation but are too cheap to spend 10 bucks on butter when we're already splurging on grocery delivery.
Whatever. We'll be in a condo with a washer/dryer.
Hate on. It's not just about being cheap. It's about not wanting to buy more of something than I need, only to throw it out before we head home. (Because, gasp, it would be crazy to fly home with 1/2 or 3/4 of a pound of unused butter.) Thinking that's okay (knowingly buying more than I need) without at least considering alternatives is crazy, IMO.
You guys are really invested in my question! I get that it sounds crazy, but I'm not putting my belongings at risk. Doesn't anyone else ever fly home with jam, sauces from France, or pesto? Give me a break. Butter just SOUNDS extreme because it's not the norm. I GET THAT.
No, butter sounds extreme because it is not packaged in a nice glass jar like jam or sauces or pesto are. Also, because it is not shelf stable.
This post also seems to be solidly in the "I'm going to ask a question but do whatever I want no matter what you guys say" camp.
Nah. File it under "her question may have sounded crazy to some" but "she's actually listening to those who are answering her questions about whether or not the import of cheese/butter is allowable".
Because I didn't ask if I should, I asked if I COULD.
But that involves a) bringing something back that I can't get at home, and b) coming home, where it's easier to deal with cleaning up spills and washing clothes if something happens.
It's not because we're going on a nice vacation but are too cheap to spend 10 bucks on butter when we're already splurging on grocery delivery.
Whatever. We'll be in a condo with a washer/dryer.
Hate on. It's not just about being cheap. It's about not wanting to buy more of something than I need, only to throw it out before we head home. (Because, gasp, it would be crazy to fly home with 1/2 or 3/4 of a pound of unused butter.) Thinking that's okay (knowingly buying more than I need) without at least considering alternatives is crazy, IMO.
I'm not hating. I'm just explaining why this is different than bringing home a jar of fancy jam or something. I just don't think 10 bucks or whatever the butter costs is worth the risk of something going wrong.
I'd leave it in the condo fridge when I left and assume that if butter is that expensive there, the cleaning staff would likely take it home and it wouldn't get wasted.
When we went to FL, there was some random stuff like coffee and oil and ketchup in the house when we got there, presumably leftover from previous renters. So we used that stuff and then we left extra stuff like butter and mustard that I'm sure the next renters used. We didn't use up everything we bought, but there was less food waste than you might expect.
Whatever. We'll be in a condo with a washer/dryer.
Hate on. It's not just about being cheap. It's about not wanting to buy more of something than I need, only to throw it out before we head home. (Because, gasp, it would be crazy to fly home with 1/2 or 3/4 of a pound of unused butter.) Thinking that's okay (knowingly buying more than I need) without at least considering alternatives is crazy, IMO.
I'm not hating. I'm just explaining why this is different than bringing home a jar of fancy jam or something. I just don't think 10 bucks or whatever the butter costs is worth the risk of something going wrong.
I'd leave it in the condo fridge when I left and assume that if butter is that expensive there, the cleaning staff would likely take it home and it wouldn't get wasted.
When we went to FL, there was some random stuff like coffee and oil and ketchup in the house when we got there, presumably leftover from previous renters. So we used that stuff and then we left extra stuff like butter and mustard that I'm sure the next renters used. We didn't use up everything we bought, but there was less food waste than you might expect.
That's even more bizarre than bringing butter in luggage, IMO.
I'm not hating. I'm just explaining why this is different than bringing home a jar of fancy jam or something. I just don't think 10 bucks or whatever the butter costs is worth the risk of something going wrong.
I'd leave it in the condo fridge when I left and assume that if butter is that expensive there, the cleaning staff would likely take it home and it wouldn't get wasted.
When we went to FL, there was some random stuff like coffee and oil and ketchup in the house when we got there, presumably leftover from previous renters. So we used that stuff and then we left extra stuff like butter and mustard that I'm sure the next renters used. We didn't use up everything we bought, but there was less food waste than you might expect.
That's even more bizarre than bringing butter in luggage, IMO.
Really? Using ketchup that's in the fridge that is not expired and smells fine? What is weird about that?
Really? Using ketchup that's in the fridge that is not expired and smells fine? What is weird about that?
Because I don't know where the ketchup comes from. The previous people could have done something weird to it.
I have never in my life worried about someone doing something weird to ketchup. Or butter, or coffee, or mustard, or cooking oil, or other things left in vacation condos. Apparently I live on the wild side.
Because I don't know where the ketchup comes from. The previous people could have done something weird to it.
I have never in my life worried about someone doing something weird to ketchup. Or butter, or coffee, or mustard, or cooking oil, or other things left in vacation condos. Apparently I live on the wild side.
Team @lasagnaasshole.
RIGHT? Like, I probably wouldn't eat cheese left. (Please note I said probably.) But ketchup? What, do I really think someone laced it with ricin? Good grief!
Because I don't know where the ketchup comes from. The previous people could have done something weird to it.
I have never in my life worried about someone doing something weird to ketchup. Or butter, or coffee, or mustard, or cooking oil, or other things left in vacation condos. Apparently I live on the wild side.
Ok in all fairness, v I went into this thread giving CloudBee all of the looks. Her joke early on about the portfolio and being frugal and all that did not translate at all with me. But she's clearly joking since then though.
The more people talk about bringing back suitcases full of cheese and stuff, I guess it really isn't that far off to bring something similar. I would assume all of that would just go bad. I mean, how long can cheese last in room temp before it will turn on you once you eat it?
Depends on the cheese.
The harder the cheese, the longer it can go unrefrigerated. I wouldn't travel with something as soft as goat cheese (by that I mean a soft chevre, not any cheese made from goat milk), and I wouldn't transport a raw milk cheese.
But we've flown with cheese as soft as a good tightly-wrapped mozzarella ball on 2-3 hour flights. We wrapped it well in our clothes right before we left for the airport. All told, it probably stayed out of the fridge 6 hours and was fine.
Ah, gotcha. I was like, soft cheese will just screw with my stomach after a 2hr flight. lol. Hard cheese I can totally see surviving for longer. Can I order these infamous cheese curds from a specific website?
Ok in all fairness, v I went into this thread giving CloudBee all of the looks. Her joke early on about the portfolio and being frugal and all that did not translate at all with me. But she's clearly joking since then though.
The more people talk about bringing back suitcases full of cheese and stuff, I guess it really isn't that far off to bring something similar. I would assume all of that would just go bad. I mean, how long can cheese last in room temp before it will turn on you once you eat it?
The portfolio thing was stupid, but she admitted that her original question was real. That gets looks from me.
Refrigeration isn't the issue. Butter doesn't even need to be refrigerated. The melting/getting squished/ruining all your clothes risk is way higher with butter than with hard cheese, and the extreme frugality factor is WAY higher.
But I'm a baby about this kind of stuff ever since my mother tried to sneak a six-pack of Diet Coke on a cruise and it exploded all over everything in her suitcase. The all-you-can-drink package was definitely a better deal than having to pay to have all of your clothes cleaned!
Because I don't know where the ketchup comes from. The previous people could have done something weird to it.
I have never in my life worried about someone doing something weird to ketchup. Or butter, or coffee, or mustard, or cooking oil, or other things left in vacation condos. Apparently I live on the wild side.
Team @lasagnaasshole.
Ketchup doesn't bother me at all. If I were the paranoid type I'd be less likely to eat ketchup or parmesan on a table at a restaurant than the stuff that was left behind in a vacation condo.
I have never in my life worried about someone doing something weird to ketchup. Or butter, or coffee, or mustard, or cooking oil, or other things left in vacation condos. Apparently I live on the wild side.
Team @lasagnaasshole.
Ketchup doesn't bother me at all. If I were the paranoid type I'd be less likely to eat ketchup or parmesan on a table at a restaurant than the stuff that was left behind in a vacation condo.
Yeah, ketchup at a restaurant is kind of gross, if you think of the number of people who probably stuck their dirty knives into it to get more out (and the bottles are refilled so many times that god only knows how old the oldest molecules of ketchup in them are).
Ok in all fairness, v I went into this thread giving CloudBee all of the looks. Her joke early on about the portfolio and being frugal and all that did not translate at all with me. But she's clearly joking since then though.
The more people talk about bringing back suitcases full of cheese and stuff, I guess it really isn't that far off to bring something similar. I would assume all of that would just go bad. I mean, how long can cheese last in room temp before it will turn on you once you eat it?
Most fine cheeses that are hard'ish are aged, and are fine out of the fridge for extended periods of time if they are shrink wrapped. And if the cheese is coated in wax, it's basically good indefinitely and will continue to age.
We refrigerate FAR more in the US that most countries with similar economic standings. Restaurants leave things like ketchup, mustard, sometimes mayo or tartar sauce on a daily basis, soy sauce, and other condiments that we would normally keep in our fridge upon opening, out 24/7. Granted they are consumed at a faster rate, but they still sit out for days.
At home I keep butter out in a dish. So I'm really confused as to why people think I'll get food poisoning if my butter gets to room temperature.
Ok in all fairness, v I went into this thread giving CloudBee all of the looks. Her joke early on about the portfolio and being frugal and all that did not translate at all with me. But she's clearly joking since then though.
The more people talk about bringing back suitcases full of cheese and stuff, I guess it really isn't that far off to bring something similar. I would assume all of that would just go bad. I mean, how long can cheese last in room temp before it will turn on you once you eat it?
The portfolio thing was stupid, but she admitted that her original question was real. That gets looks from me.
Refrigeration isn't the issue. Butter doesn't even need to be refrigerated. The melting/getting squished/ruining all your clothes risk is way higher with butter than with hard cheese, and the extreme frugality factor is WAY higher.
But I'm a baby about this kind of stuff ever since my mother tried to sneak a six-pack of Diet Coke on a cruise and it exploded all over everything in her suitcase. The all-you-can-drink package was definitely a better deal than having to pay to have all of your clothes cleaned!
I'm not packing anything that could explode, and typically avoid even packing cans of shaving cream. But if someone's packing liquid foundation or another beauty product that doesn't easily wash out, it sounds extreme to hear that packing butter in multiple Ziplocks still = demise of clothing.
Ah, gotcha. I was like, soft cheese will just screw with my stomach after a 2hr flight. lol. Hard cheese I can totally see surviving for longer. Can I order these infamous cheese curds from a specific website?
This is our favorite dairy. The cheese curds still squeak when they arrive--but shipping I summertime is prohibitively expensive. We always place a few orders in winter.
Ah, gotcha. I was like, soft cheese will just screw with my stomach after a 2hr flight. lol. Hard cheese I can totally see surviving for longer. Can I order these infamous cheese curds from a specific website?
I have never in my life worried about someone doing something weird to ketchup. Or butter, or coffee, or mustard, or cooking oil, or other things left in vacation condos. Apparently I live on the wild side.
Team @lasagnaasshole.
Okay, you guys are brave!
So, do you never use the condiments on a table at a restaurant? I doubt it. Those have been handled by wayyyy more people than something left in a vacation rental.
Because I don't know where the ketchup comes from. The previous people could have done something weird to it.
Well, I used the ketchup and the olive oil and lived to tell the tale!
We've had staple items at vacation rentals we've stayed at and used them. Didn't think a thing of it! There was even a little sign that said use what you need and leave things if you need to. Really nice for things like spices.
So, do you never use the condiments on a table at a restaurant? I doubt it. Those have been handled by wayyyy more people than something left in a vacation rental.
Yes of course I do. But at least I know it's from the restaurant. But a vacation rental? Nope.
once again, the answer is coconut butter...the answer is always coconut butter easy to pack and makes good pancakes and eggs
i would probably take one large trip (via shuttle) to the market and buy stuff that is cheap, even if not it is what i normally eat at home. straying from the norm is part of taking a vacation anyway. it reminds me of when i was 16 and i stayed at a kibbutz in Israel and they served weird food for breakfast. But one of those foods happened to be Nutella (before it arrived in the states). I thought eating pita bread and chocolate at 6am was the coolest thing ever.
RIGHT? Like, I probably wouldn't eat cheese left. (Please note I said probably.) But ketchup? What, do I really think someone laced it with ricin? Good grief!
Noted!
DH is paranoid as all get out and wouldn't touch it. He won't even eat certain foods at a potluck if he thinks the person who made it is kinda nasty (i.e. he's seen the guy not wash his hands in the bathroom type).
I agree with your DH. I haaate potlucks for that reason.