Child abuse trigger. WHAT THE FUCK?? Re:Rotherham!!

[iammalcolmx]

Maybe this was discussed last week and I wasn't paying attention. I heard something about it on the radio but was scared to google it. They mentioned people were scared to publicize it for fear of racial tension??

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28942986

An estimate that 1,400 children were sexually exploited in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 is among the key findings of an independent report by Professor Alexis Jay into the handling of child sexual exploitation (CSE) by social services and police in the South Yorkshire town.

Appalling abuse

Prof Jay's report describes the abuse as "appalling" and says it included the rape of girls as young as 11 by "large numbers of male perpetrators".

Children were raped by multiple attackers, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten and intimidated, the report revealed.

Some were doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, while others were threatened with guns, made to watch "brutally violent rapes" and warned they would be next if they told anyone.
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Blatant failures

The report said the "collective failures" of political and officer leadership were "blatant" over the first 12 years covered by the inquiry.

Senior managers within social care were said to have "underplayed" the scale and seriousness of the problem.

Police were said to have given CSE no priority, regarding many child victims "with contempt" and failing to act on their abuse as a crime.

The report found that three other publications in 2002, 2003 and 2006 provided "stark evidence" to the police and council.

The first of these was suppressed, which the report said had led to suggestions of a cover-up, while the other two were ignored.

Staff were said to have believed the extent of CSE had been exaggerated, while some were "overwhelmed" by the numbers of cases involved.
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Asian perpetrators

The majority of those behind the abuse were described as Asian, while the victims were young white girls.

Yet the report found that councillors failed to engage with the town's Pakistani-heritage community during the inquiry period.

Some councillors were said to have hoped the issue would "go away", thinking it was a "one-off problem".

The report said several staff members were afraid they would be labelled racist if they identified the race of the perpetrators, while others said they were instructed by their managers not to do so.

Several councillors interviewed believed highlighting the race element would "give oxygen" to racist ideas and threaten community cohesion.

[eclaires]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

[osulori]

what.the.fuck.

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I think if the perpetrators had been white OR the victims hadn't been council estate girls, this would have gotten more attention. Which is a damned shame.

[iammalcolmx]

Sept 2, 2014 8:46:49 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I think if the perpetrators had been white OR the victims hadn't been council estate girls, this would have gotten more attention. Which is a damned shame.

My god they kidnapped these girls from the homes to abuse them. Unreal. I am listening to World Have Your Say talk about it.

[pamela]

Sept 2, 2014 8:46:49 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I think if the perpetrators had been white OR the victims hadn't been council estate girls, this would have gotten more attention. Which is a damned shame.

I don't understand this. I thought we brushed crime by white men under the rug and only reported when it was done by non-whites.

[IIOY]

I'm on the go with kids today and don't have time to play, but I had intended to post this later on.

mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/02/world/europe/reckoning-starts-in-britain-on-abuse-of-girls.html?referrer=

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Sept 2, 2014 9:00:08 GMT -5 pamela said:

Sept 2, 2014 8:46:49 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I think if the perpetrators had been white OR the victims hadn't been council estate girls, this would have gotten more attention. Which is a damned shame.

I don't understand this. I thought we brushed crime by white men under the rug and only reported when it was done by non-whites.

I don't understand what you're saying here. Except I want to clarify that the the "we" in this case are actually Britain, not us.

[blink]

This is so disturbing. Those poor girls. And WTF to just ignoring it and hoping it would go away.

[iammalcolmx]

Sept 2, 2014 9:00:08 GMT -5 pamela said:

Sept 2, 2014 8:46:49 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I think if the perpetrators had been white OR the victims hadn't been council estate girls, this would have gotten more attention. Which is a damned shame.

I don't understand this. I thought we brushed crime by white men under the rug and only reported when it was done by non-whites.

The town officials basically all but said they didn't want to invoke racial tensions by publicizing this.

[pamela]

Sept 2, 2014 9:04:51 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

Sept 2, 2014 9:00:08 GMT -5 pamela said:

I don't understand this. I thought we brushed crime by white men under the rug and only reported when it was done by non-whites.

I don't understand what you're saying here. Except I want to clarify that the the "we" in this case are actually Britain, not us.

I know it's Britain (wth kind of spelling is councillors?). But all the time on here we CEP discuss that crimes committed by whites are either ignored or not really prosecuted. But what I'm reading you as saying is that if these abusers had been white, it would have been reported and prosecuted. Those are opposite.

I do agree that the social class of the victims absolutely comes into play with how it was ignored/hidden/etc for so long.

[frlcb]

Sept 2, 2014 9:11:26 GMT -5 pamela said:

Sept 2, 2014 9:04:51 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I don't understand what you're saying here. Except I want to clarify that the the "we" in this case are actually Britain, not us.

I know it's Britain (wth kind of spelling is councillors?). But all the time on here we CEP discuss that crimes committed by whites are either ignored or not really prosecuted. But what I'm reading you as saying is that if these abusers had been white, it would have been reported and prosecuted. Those are opposite.

I do agree that the social class of the victims absolutely comes into play with how it was ignored/hidden/etc for so long.

It is the British spelling.

Where has it said they were council estate girls? I missed that part. The town, in general, is a poor town.

[cinnamoncox]

This is one of the worst things I've read.
I do not understand enough about the area to understand the racial aspect though.
I hope those girls find peace somehow. And love. And comfort and safety. This is horrific.

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Sept 2, 2014 9:11:26 GMT -5 pamela said:

Sept 2, 2014 9:04:51 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I don't understand what you're saying here. Except I want to clarify that the the "we" in this case are actually Britain, not us.

I know it's Britain (wth kind of spelling is councillors?). But all the time on here we CEP discuss that crimes committed by whites are either ignored or not really prosecuted. But what I'm reading you as saying is that if these abusers had been white, it would have been reported and prosecuted. Those are opposite.

I do agree that the social class of the victims absolutely comes into play with how it was ignored/hidden/etc for so long.

We say it all the time in reference to America. England's race relations are different. 

In America, this story would be reported regardless of who it involved. Because it involves sex. That's why SVU has been on television for fucking ever and why it's the only version of L&O still alive and kicking.

Well not regardless. If these had been black girls, no one would give much of a shit. See: R Kelly.

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I think the historic evolution of policing in England plays a huge role in this though. For instance, there wasn't even a police force until 1829 or so. If you wanted someone arrested, it was up to you to gather up all the evidence and hire someone to drag his ass down to the magistrate.

So historically speaking, the role of police officers in England comes from a far different point of view than for instance, officers here.

[LoveTrains]

i read about that on the NYT today and was horrified.

[mrsukyankee]

It's horrifying.  There's a lot of things that are bad about the British system...one being that many judges and police do not think that sexual abuse is the fault of anyone but the victim (lots of articles on that in the past ten years), some of it is due to issues of communication between the various systems (we've had some serious issues in a variety of parts of the country with abuse not coming to light due to miscommunication).  And right now there is a lot of issues regarding race/religion, particularly around the Muslim population - there is a group that is trying to bring Sharia law to England and recruiting young men to carry out horrible things.  And finally, some of it also came about due to the families of the girls not wanting shame to come to their family by the girls reporting. It's a really bad thing that a lot of Muslim families over here won't report any sort of abuse due to fears of shaming their families. So a big swirling mess.

[summer]

After reading the NYTimes story I'm convinced that the police were in on it. Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense to me.

I mean, to have to move your family to another country to get away? People threatening to rape and kill your family and holding guns to your head? Kidnapping girls off the street? And the police were just like, "meh" shrug? Hell, no. This is infuriating.