MM's doing the good-old fashioned economic class debate

[W.T.Faulkner]

pandce.proboards.com/thread/368979/middle-class-cnn-money

The calculator is pretty interesting, though.

I just lol all day at some of the posters in that thread.  Come, let me show you what real "middle class" is.

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I'm so poor compared to these people its hilarious*










*depressing

[W.T.Faulkner]

Sept 15, 2014 12:02:46 GMT -5 @fucksticklegit said:

I'm so poor compared to these people its hilarious*










*depressing

But, like, daycare, and HCOL, yo!

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Sept 15, 2014 12:03:15 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

Sept 15, 2014 12:02:46 GMT -5 @fucksticklegit said:

I'm so poor compared to these people its hilarious*










*depressing

But, like, daycare, and HCOL, yo!

"Middle class" in my county makes more than double what I do.

[W.T.Faulkner]

Sept 15, 2014 12:05:00 GMT -5 @astrid said:

Wait, is it household or just me? I am bad at this game.

I think it's individual income, but I'm not sure.

[alzi]

Damn, I'm rich bitch!




Lol no.

[jinkies]

I don't understand the reluctance to be considered anything other than middle class. Everyone wants to be rich, but no one wants others to *consider* them rich.

[gault]

Not middle class.

It sucks having the poors.

[W.T.Faulkner]

I want to live in the bubble that some of those posters are living in!

[pantsparty]

These calculators are pointless, because clearly the only thing that matters is if you "feel" middle class.

[MWOS]

I'm dying at "but my student loan adjusted income makes us feel a lot less than rich"

guess what happens to your student loan adjusted income (what? is this a thing?) when you start off below middle class?

tl;dr- I have less money to spend after I pay my bills epiphany

[Deleted]

I have negative monies.

[luckyval]

I wonder what some people's interpretation of middle class feels like. It must feel pretty good.

[birdistheword]

I am legit middle class. Yay?

[eddy]

If we are looking at individual incomes then both H and I fall into the category with our salaries.

Oh yeaaahhhh I actually get to say I am the infamous middle class!

[pantsparty]

Okay, now I'm straight-up laughing at, "This is America. Virtually everyone is middle class."

I bet she can't even see outside her bubble.

[TC]

We were Actually Middle Class for a luxurious three years. Both of us were Actually Poor for our whole lives before then and now we are both students (which is its own luxury in a different way). I felt borderline wealthy for those years after where I came from. Perspective is powerful.

[Kristinmo]

Sept 15, 2014 12:10:01 GMT -5 @stpete said:

I think these calculators would make more sense if we threw out the bottom 10% and the top 10%. I think the median income says more than the mean.

I'm not middle class according to this and I knew before I took it I wouldn't be, but I think we can all look at those with more and feel solidly middle after the evaluation.

It's not just an average:

Notes: Figures are from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2010-2012 American Community Survey in 2013 dollars. They reflect the household income of the middle fifth of residents in each county. Counties with populations greater than 20,000 are included.

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Sept 15, 2014 12:12:37 GMT -5 pantsparty said:

Okay, now I'm straight-up laughing at, "This is America. Virtually everyone is middle class."

I bet she can't even see outside her bubble.

[jinkies]

I think it's easier for me to recognize that we are upper-middle because I grew up pretty poor and the difference is obvious.

If you grew up middle/upper-middle, it's harder to see how many "extras" you actually have, because to you they are a given. (Like paying for preschool or having your kids involved in sports or music lessons). If you are doing the same/worse than your parents, I guess it's harder to see that you are still doing better than "middle."

[eddy]

I wish they did this by county and number in household. I think it is interesting to compare it county wise but it feels ingenuine when we aren't figuring that we have a dual spouse household and two kids.

Would that make us appear richer or poorer? I am not sure lol.

[rageragerage]

[cville]

I don't understand the extreme abhorrence in admitting you're upperclass STATISTICALLY. Hi, I'm Cville, and I'm not middle class. No, I don't bathe in champers* or drive a Bentley, but I have an easy financial life. Really! Even with my outrageous student loans and HCOL daycare costs! Even though I have to save up for major purchases, like cars! EVEN THOUGH I COULDN'T JUST FLY MY FAMILY OF FOUR TO MAUI THIS WEEKEND AND STAY IN A POSH HOTEL SPONTANEOUSLY, LIKE A BALLER.

I hope you all don't shun me.



*you all, just typing that made me vomit

[wysiwyg]

I'm poor.

This is not new news. LOL

[mushmouse]

I don't know what's funnier - the people who make triple claiming they're still middle, middle class or claiming that everyone in the USA is and always will be middle class.

[MWOS]

I BARELY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR ALL THIS COCAINE

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I answered that I don't feel middle class.


I grew up poor.


I feel rich now.

[TC]

Sept 15, 2014 12:16:10 GMT -5 rageragerage said:

Look, I'm telling you, if being able to buy the good toilet paper without questioning it isn't what it means to be wealthy, I don't know what is.

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Sept 15, 2014 12:17:41 GMT -5 MWOS said:

I BARELY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR ALL THIS COCAINE

AND DICKS

[bronxgirl]

Sept 15, 2014 12:12:37 GMT -5 pantsparty said:

Okay, now I'm straight-up laughing at, "This is America. Virtually everyone is middle class."

I bet she can't even see outside her bubble.

Fyi this person probably makes well over $200,00 year and lives in a county with the following "middle class" income range
Middle class in
New York County, New York is

$50,261—$91,758