Holy shit. If this is true, I hope they throw the book at both doctors. The selfie is appalling, but performing an unauthorized procedure on a sedated patient? No.
To play devil's advocate regarding the photo, I can kinda sorta see Joan fucking with him and yelling something to the effect ' well you best take a picture so I know I was having a procedure done' or probably something much more sexual/exploitative, if you know what I mean; prior to surgery. But, in of itself, that picture was leaked that is fucked up. I don't know, it fucking sucks she passed and I am not even going to touch the other decision the doctor made, but thinking of how she was, like I know her or something, lol, I can see her joking with the doctor about taking a selfie or something. .
To play devil's advocate regarding the photo, I can kinda sorta see Joan fucking with him and yelling something to the effect ' well you best take a picture so I know I was having a procedure done' or probably something much more sexual/exploitative, if you know what I mean; prior to surgery. But, in of itself, that picture was leaked that is fucked up. I don't know, it fucking sucks she passed and I am not even going to touch the other decision the doctor made, but thinking of how she was, like I know her or something, lol, I can see her joking with the doctor about taking a selfie or something. .
It doesn't matter if she begged him to do it. He is a doctor, she was an unconscious patient. You just cannot DO shit like this. Hell, my old doctor wouldn't say hi to me if I saw her at the mall because of confidentiality.
Post by allaboutme on Sept 16, 2014 21:45:57 GMT -5
I don't believe this story; speaking as an OR nurse there is no way this would of happened in any operating room I have been in, I cannot imagine ethically anyone would have allowed him to do that. If I were her nurse there would be no way in HELL I would have allowed that to happen (pic, biopsy w/out consent, etc). Plus, having a group of healthcare professionals in that room and not one of them would have stopped that shit, especially since they are supposed to be advocates for Joan (the patient)?? No way.
Post by MrsAxilla on Sept 16, 2014 21:55:14 GMT -5
Why would he do a biopsy? Isn't a biopsy when you take a sample of tissue or a mass or something to test it for disease? Did he see a growth or something?
To play devil's advocate regarding the photo, I can kinda sorta see Joan fucking with him and yelling something to the effect ' well you best take a picture so I know I was having a procedure done' or probably something much more sexual/exploitative, if you know what I mean; prior to surgery. But, in of itself, that picture was leaked that is fucked up. I don't know, it fucking sucks she passed and I am not even going to touch the other decision the doctor made, but thinking of how she was, like I know her or something, lol, I can see her joking with the doctor about taking a selfie or something. .
It doesn't matter if she begged him to do it. He is a doctor, she was an unconscious patient. You just cannot DO shit like this. Hell, my old doctor wouldn't say hi to me if I saw her at the mall because of confidentiality.
That's kind of weird.
But holy shit to the Joan Rivers story if it's true. It could be made up, but really nothing that people do surprises me these days.
She was having an endoscopy procedure to figure out why she had a hoarse voice and sore throat. It's an exploratory procedure and I would absolutely expect them to do a biopsy if they saw something that looked off. It's hard for me to imagine that her consent didn't say something to that affect. You're not going to wake an 81 year old woman up then put her back under anesthesia to do the biopsy because doing ANY procedure with anesthesia on a patient that age is very risky. I'm certain someone explained these risks, whether she listened or not.
As far as the selfie, that's obviously completely unprofessional and if it's true, there should be consequences. However I doubt it was during the procedure since the doctor would have been sterile.
To play devil's advocate regarding the photo, I can kinda sorta see Joan fucking with him and yelling something to the effect ' well you best take a picture so I know I was having a procedure done' or probably something much more sexual/exploitative, if you know what I mean; prior to surgery. But, in of itself, that picture was leaked that is fucked up. I don't know, it fucking sucks she passed and I am not even going to touch the other decision the doctor made, but thinking of how she was, like I know her or something, lol, I can see her joking with the doctor about taking a selfie or something. .
Um, even I know that this scenario of her joking with the doctor about taking a selfie is not even fathomable & would have never been said. I am extremely sarcastic, but I don't go "Hey doc, when you're doing my surgery make sure to take a picture while I'm under so I know you actually did the procedure" or be sexual/explicative. It was said she didn't consent to whatever they did to her to cause her death. An endoscopy is usually done under a "twilight sleep." Just no. No no no. I'm even shaking my head at this. I had to read it 2x and couldn't answer because I couldn't form a sentence without one curse word in it. You may want to re-read what you wrote & word it differently or SOMETHING.
The doctor doing the biopsy wasn't even supposed to be there.
Ick to the entire thing.
That's the part that I can't wrap my head around. It sounds like her own doctor finished and left the room. Then this other doctor went in, took the selfie, and did the biopsy. WTF???