tell me this is a bad idea

[al320]

Im searching for a spring full. I was considering the Long Island marathon...but its the week after the NJ/long branch half, which im already registered for and am gonna try to pr.

Bad idea, right? (I know it is, just need affirmation lol)

[ebeth]

Yes. Unless you don't care about your marathon time. A marathon is not a distance I'd run 'for fun' though...

[taratru]

ditto ebeth. Find one about a month after your half PR attempt.

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 8:23:07 GMT -5 taratru said:

ditto ebeth. Find one about a month after your half PR attempt.

Grr, whyd they have to go and cancel bob potts. Thats when it was grrrrr

Thanks guys. I know its a bad idea. Im frustrated as hell.

[theoriginalbean]

I agree with ebeth. FWIW, the races that I really *try* at and give maximal effort almost always require at least a week of serious rest. I wouldn't have been in any shape to run a marathon a week after actually racing for a PR in a half.

[theoriginalbean]

How far are you willing to travel?

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 8:55:48 GMT -5 theoriginalbean said:

How far are you willing to travel?

Within a 4 hour drive of northern nj, unless you have something REALLY perfect.

(And it has to be a smaller field of runners and fairly flat course).

[theoriginalbean]

I'm originally from North Jersey, so I have a lot of east coast races on my dream list

My initial thought was Pocono Marathon, but that might still be too close to NJ Half.

[theoriginalbean]

Hatfield and McCoy? It might be a little more than 4 hours, but everyone I know who has run it said it's an awesome race.

NEVER MIND, I missed the "flat" part. Sorry!

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 9:16:23 GMT -5 theoriginalbean said:

I'm originally from North Jersey, so I have a lot of east coast races on my dream list

My initial thought was Pocono Marathon, but that might still be too close to NJ Half.

Oh really? Where? Im in bergen county.

I saw that on marathin guide and just assumed it would be hilly, i guess i should read? Its certainly not too far...ill check it out, thanks. If its 2 weeks out it might be ok. Anything from midmay to midjune, though memorial day weekend is ideal.

[theoriginalbean]

Sept 17, 2014 9:20:02 GMT -5 al320 said:

Sept 17, 2014 9:16:23 GMT -5 theoriginalbean said:

I'm originally from North Jersey, so I have a lot of east coast races on my dream list

My initial thought was Pocono Marathon, but that might still be too close to NJ Half.

Oh really? Where? Im in bergen county.

I saw that on marathin guide and just assumed it would be hilly, i guess i should read? Its certainly not too far...ill check it out, thanks. If its 2 weeks out it might be ok. Anything from midmay to midjune, though memorial day weekend is ideal.

It's all downhill. Could be worth looking into.

I'm from Rahway, in Union County. I ran the NJ full, last year. I'm heading out tomorrow morning to visit my sister in NYC and my aunt in Edison.

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 9:19:25 GMT -5 theoriginalbean said:

Hatfield and McCoy? It might be a little more than 4 hours, but everyone I know who has run it said it's an awesome race.

NEVER MIND, I missed the "flat" part. Sorry!

Haha thats ok.

The elevation chart for poconos reminds me of steamtown, which hurt, but was fine. This could be perfect. Thank you! Off to read reviews!!

[Wines Not Whines]

Yeah, bad idea.

Apparently there's a marathon in Wilmington, Delaware in mid-May. Would that work? www.delawaremarathon.org/

There's also a marathon in Buffalo, NY on May 24. www.buffalomarathon.com/

I don't know anything about them, other than the fact that they exist.

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 9:28:01 GMT -5 Wines Not Whines said:

Yeah, bad idea.

Apparently there's a marathon in Wilmington, Delaware in mid-May. Would that work? www.delawaremarathon.org/

There's also a marathon in Buffalo, NY on May 24. www.buffalomarathon.com/

I don't know anything about them, other than the fact that they exist.

Thanks! I cant decide if buffalo is too far. Ive been reading the reviews of delaware...i need to make a short list i guess.

Thanks everyone!!!!

[Susie]

Sept 17, 2014 9:28:01 GMT -5 Wines Not Whines said:

Yeah, bad idea.

Apparently there's a marathon in Wilmington, Delaware in mid-May. Would that work? www.delawaremarathon.org/

There's also a marathon in Buffalo, NY on May 24. www.buffalomarathon.com/

I don't know anything about them, other than the fact that they exist.

One of my friends BQ'ed at Buffalo in 2013!  She liked it, although she is probably biased

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 9:53:45 GMT -5 Susie said:

Sept 17, 2014 9:28:01 GMT -5 Wines Not Whines said:

Yeah, bad idea.

Apparently there's a marathon in Wilmington, Delaware in mid-May. Would that work? www.delawaremarathon.org/

There's also a marathon in Buffalo, NY on May 24. www.buffalomarathon.com/

I don't know anything about them, other than the fact that they exist.

One of my friends BQ'ed at Buffalo in 2013!  She liked it, although she is probably biased

Hmm, buffalo is the right weekend, and it seems flat. Do i want to drive 6 hours...i have a lot of thinking to do!

Thanks ladies!

[Wines Not Whines]

I have no idea about upstate NY geography and how far everything is. I thought, hmmm NY, must be close to NJ!

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 10:23:45 GMT -5 Wines Not Whines said:

I have no idea about upstate NY geography and how far everything is. I thought, hmmm NY, must be close to NJ!

Buffalo is as far from nj as you can get and still be in ny. Its.about 6 hrs from me.

Ok, so buffalo or poconos. Time to give it some thought...

[Susie]

Sept 17, 2014 10:23:45 GMT -5 Wines Not Whines said:

I have no idea about upstate NY geography and how far everything is. I thought, hmmm NY, must be close to NJ!

lol, upstate NY is actually very large (and ill-defined).  It's big enough that it really has an upstate, central, western, and downstate, and also a southern tier, but this depends on who you ask, and is the subject of significant debate.  There are also other, smaller geographic appellations that I'm missing.  I've lived in upstate and central, but have an affection for the Dar Williams song called "Southern California Wants to Be Western NY."  

And this is so true:  www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/things-people-from-upstate-new-york-love#1xsjizv


I live in Albany, and I'd say going to Boston, i.e. driving the entire width of Massachusetts, is about as far east as Syracuse is west of us (2-3 hours).  That only gets you halfway to Buffalo!

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 11:11:00 GMT -5 Susie said:

Sept 17, 2014 10:23:45 GMT -5 Wines Not Whines said:

I have no idea about upstate NY geography and how far everything is. I thought, hmmm NY, must be close to NJ!

lol, upstate NY is actually very large (and ill-defined).  It's big enough that it really has an upstate, central, western, and downstate, and also a southern tier, but this depends on who you ask, and is the subject of significant debate.  There are also other, smaller geographic appellations that I'm missing.  I've lived in upstate and central, but have an affection for the Dar Williams song called "Southern California Wants to Be Western NY."  

And this is so true:  www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/things-people-from-upstate-new-york-love#1xsjizv


I live in Albany, and I'd say going to Boston, i.e. driving the entire width of Massachusetts, is about as far east as Syracuse is west of us (2-3 hours).  That only gets you halfway to Buffalo!

Ha so true. I am from "upstate new york" also, but only when im talking to people who define that as anything north of the bronx lol

[Susie]

Sept 17, 2014 11:17:52 GMT -5 al320 said:

Ha so true. I am from "upstate new york" also, but only when im talking to people who define that as anything north of the bronx lol

[kams]

I would personally blow up in a marathon the week after a half PR attempt.

I think we need to start a Truths by ebeth post. She nails it every time!

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 11:21:23 GMT -5 Susie said:

Sept 17, 2014 11:17:52 GMT -5 al320 said:

Ha so true. I am from "upstate new york" also, but only when im talking to people who define that as anything north of the bronx lol

Ha yeah i saw that in the buzzfeed link and cracked up. Tell that to all the long islanders i went to college with.

(And im from the little triangle to the left of westchester, not westchester).

[mrshandy]

VA Beach doesn't work?

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 11:27:23 GMT -5 mrshandy said:

VA Beach doesn't work?

Which race? Shamrock is too early. Is there another one?

[mrshandy]

Sept 17, 2014 11:29:57 GMT -5 al320 said:

Sept 17, 2014 11:27:23 GMT -5 mrshandy said:

VA Beach doesn't work?

Which race? Shamrock is too early. Is there another one?

That's the one I'm referring to. I don't know any other one.

[al320]

Sept 17, 2014 11:33:42 GMT -5 mrshandy said:

Sept 17, 2014 11:29:57 GMT -5 al320 said:

Which race? Shamrock is too early. Is there another one?

That's the one I'm referring to. I don't know any other one.

Yeah its too early. I want a few months off between my october full and training for spring. Late may is perfect. But thank you!!

[labbie]

Sept 17, 2014 11:11:00 GMT -5 Susie said:

Sept 17, 2014 10:23:45 GMT -5 Wines Not Whines said:

I have no idea about upstate NY geography and how far everything is. I thought, hmmm NY, must be close to NJ!

lol, upstate NY is actually very large (and ill-defined).  It's big enough that it really has an upstate, central, western, and downstate, and also a southern tier, but this depends on who you ask, and is the subject of significant debate.  There are also other, smaller geographic appellations that I'm missing.  I've lived in upstate and central, but have an affection for the Dar Williams song called "Southern California Wants to Be Western NY."  

And this is so true:  www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/things-people-from-upstate-new-york-love#1xsjizv


I live in Albany, and I'd say going to Boston, i.e. driving the entire width of Massachusetts, is about as far east as Syracuse is west of us (2-3 hours).  That only gets you halfway to Buffalo!

I'm in the Rochester area and love it when I tell people I'm from NYS and about 7 hours from NYC- it doesn't compute! I've never done the Buffalo marathon, but have heard good things- running temps that time of year are good here also. If you were able to take your time driving home, I will also pimp out the Finger Lakes region for great wineries and scenic towns to visit on your way home.

[Wines Not Whines]

LOL... yeah, pretty much everyone I know from NY is from the NYC area, so they consider anything in NY State other than NYC to be "Upstate." It's all lumped together.