I remembered him from that movie but didn't say anything because I figured I was the only one who watched it, lol. Oh Lifetime and Hallmark, how you suck me in during the holidays even though your movies are always bad.
i'm 23 chapters into the first book and i have many sex-related questions. mostly, they are along the lines of why 50 shades was so offensive, but this is okay. i am so uncomfortable reading all these sex scenes where she is telling him to stop or that she doesn't want to but he goes for it and she is hurt but gets into it.
i'm so vanilla
If my H hadn't pressed me even when I said I wasn't in the mood/was tired/wanted to eat another bowl of ice cream... We literally would not have ever had sex the year after both of our children. I'm glad he did.
Sometimes in the morning H starts kissing my neck and I'm all "there isn't time" and he is all "yes there is" and I never regret giving in.
HOWEVER. That said - yes, there are moments where I wince because she takes it too far in that aspect.
OMG - WHY AM I ARGUING THIS STILL? I DONT EVEN CARE. Lol.
i just read this part today. that's why i'm all spun up about it. i have liked it for the most part, but all of the "he is a product of his time" stuff is wearing me out. the discipline, the "you promised to obey," etc.
Yes. This is annoying. And in the following 8 books it doesn't happen anymore.
Wait? No. This isn't how it happened. He asked her and she said yes. And then he said he couldn't be gentle.
I mean. I see what y'all are saying and again - there is a point. But he never raped her. Right? Maybe I need to reread it.
"No!" I gasped, "Stop, please, you're hurting me!" Our flesh met now with the smack of a blow that was fast crossing the edge into pain. My thighs were bruising with the repeated impact, and my wrists felt like they would break, but his grip was inexorable. "Aye, beg me for mercy, Sassenach. Ye shallna have it, though; not yet."
Oh yeah. Lol.
Well I took this "mercy" another way - seeing as they were already having sex. Mercy, as in relief. As in orgasm.
And again. Maybe this kind of sex talk is not foreign to me.
I've had bruises on my ass and legs from sex. I didn't want him to stop.
And another THING and then I'll stop because I need to go do my Friday night.
Earlier on in the books Jamie is petrified of hurting her during sex. He mentions it every time. And she uses her teeth during a blow job to show him that a little pain during sex feels good.
And another THING and then I'll stop because I need to go do my Friday night.
Earlier on in the books Jamie is petrified of hurting her during sex. He mentions it every time. And she uses her teeth during a blow job to show him that a little pain during sex feels good.
They literally have that conversation.
And then that's like the next sex scene.
LOL! discovering she likes rough sex is not the same as finding out she likes having sex against her will. no means no, dude.
Yes - you are right. It does! I'm not arguing that.
But in the scene you were describing she was having sex. He was just being too rough - which she has encouraged him to do. He didn't force her to have sex. In fact he asked her if she wanted to in that scene and she said yes.
I'm not arguing that there aren't things I don't agree with or like and again - I see your point. I think I'm just being defensive because I like this story, and I also have admitted that there are elements I don't agree with. But she was not raped by him. And I think that Claire as a character would not choose to stay with a man who raped her - or who she didn't feel safe with.
Yes - you are right. It does! I'm not arguing that.
But in the scene you were describing she was having sex. He was just being too rough - which she has encouraged him to do. He didn't force her to have sex. In fact he asked her if she wanted to in that scene and she said yes.
I'm not arguing that there aren't things I don't agree with or like and again - I see your point. I think I'm just being defensive because I like this story, and I also have admitted that there are elements I don't agree with. But she was not raped by him. And I think that Claire as a character would not choose to stay with a man who raped her - or who she didn't feel safe with.
i get like that about book characters i really like, too. obviously, i'm not upset enough about it to quit the book. LOL!
HA. I had no idea I was passionate about this. I think you might see it a little differently once you finish the book. But maybe not. There are plenty of women here who see it the same way as you. I know when I was reading it the more I knew Claire - the more I understood it all I guess. I dunno.