Post by jennistarr1 on Sept 29, 2014 13:12:06 GMT -5
So I was in your position last year and this is what I did (it was confusing for me that since my numbers were going up and I wasn't bleeding or cramping). So I did wait for a natural miscarriage. When that wasn't happening, I went back in for another ultrasound and when again they confirmed it, I scheduled the D/C. So waiting for me helped me I guess in getting used to the idea and believing it. I'm so sorry.
Post by bananapancakes on Sept 29, 2014 13:19:31 GMT -5
I'm so sorry you are in limbo. It is a very difficult place to be. I hope you get some confirmation soon. Thinking lots of hood thoughts for you. Hugs!
I think it's the lack of doubling PLUS the fact that she couldn't see anything except a yolk sac last Wednesday. She said she expected to see a little more based on my hormone levels and lmp and was surprised when she didn't. If I'm not as far along as I thought, then my numbers should be doubling still, right? And that would make sense why she couldn't see anything except the yolk sac.
This is a serious mindfuck.
Yes, but I still think it's weird the way she is handling it. I feel like my OB's office would automatically schedule another ultrasound.
That's where I am-in the days since your last ultrasound there should be some progress with the pregnancy that could be seen, right? Which is why I'm mystified as to how your Dr. Is handling this.
This is really fucking weird. Your numbers are perfectly viable for a pregnancy. Who the fuck is your ob and how can they even speculate this way? what the fuck?
I think it's the lack of doubling PLUS the fact that she couldn't see anything except a yolk sac last Wednesday. She said she expected to see a little more based on my hormone levels and lmp and was surprised when she didn't. If I'm not as far along as I thought, then my numbers should be doubling still, right? And that would make sense why she couldn't see anything except the yolk sac.
This is a serious mindfuck.
I would call her back and ask for an u/s today or tomorrow. There are lots of reasons she couldn't see anything on u/s. You could have a tilted uterus. The baby could be positioned in an odd spot. She could suck at u/s (she's not a tech). You and your BF should discuss options should it not be viable and he should come with you for support and to hold your hand, and maybe, just maybe, if she is wrong, to see the baby's hb for the first time. I've been around TTC and pg. message boards long enough to know stranger things have happened and Dr's are wrong sometimes.
I am sorry this is such a mind fuck. I've been there and it's terrible.
Post by riverrider on Sept 29, 2014 13:34:43 GMT -5
I would demand another u/s today.
I went through the exact same thing you are going through right now down to almost the same numbers. I now have a healthy 11 year old who I was this close to not having due to my doctor thinking that because my numbers were not doubling and nothing shown on the u/s (tilted uterus for the win!).
Post by gummybear on Sept 29, 2014 13:36:20 GMT -5
Your betas are extremely high for not being able to see a hb on vaginal u/s. Regardless of how far along you are, a beta that high will usually render a hb, even on an abdominal u/s. With a vaginal u/s, you can usually see one once a beta is around 2,500.
That being said, it's the fact that she has only done one u/s before declaring a threatened m/c. And she is doing it so callously. I agree that waiting a week in between is the most accurate way to see if there is growth but honestly, with a beta that high, it shouldn't matter. I would ask to be seen at an imaging facility and scanned by a technician versed in early pregnancy dating. Drs are the best at lots of things, but u/s is not one of them, IMO.
Post by coribelle26 on Sept 29, 2014 13:39:12 GMT -5
montereybride I had strikingly similar circumstances to yours with my first pregnancy. Negative tests when they "should" have been positive based on LMP (I mean really at almost exactly the same time frames you described) and then an ultrasound at what they thought was 7 weeks that only showed a sac. An ultrasound a week later showed a heartbeat, and it turns out I ovulated late and was really only 5 weeks at that first one.
Now in full disclosure I did miscarry that pregnancy, but much later and not because it wasn't viable in the first place (testing showed a normally developing fetus, it was just some kind of shitty fluke). The only way to know if your pregnancy is truly progressing or not is to have a follow up ultrasound to see if there has been any change.
Post by cinnamoncox on Sept 29, 2014 13:47:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry this is happening I would definitely ask for another ultrasound ASAP, but I wouldn't go to the ER. I think your dr is handling this very oddly. Your numbers and estimated dating 7/8 weeks aren't incompatible, so I just can't imagine why she wouldn't simply send you for an u/s vs saying weird things like you're body is trying to hang on, and making predictions like this. Good luck. I hope you get solid answers soon, MB.
Your doctor is a moron. Please, for goodness sake, get a ultrasound TODAY. Those numbers are normal, but only seeing a sac and your doctor's behavior is not. As pp have said, there is a multitude of reasons why your doctor could only see a sac.
Post by sparkythelawyer on Sept 29, 2014 13:56:11 GMT -5
Meh. At this point, waiting until later this week probably doesn't harm anything (though I realize it is stressful!) In case you are not as far along as everyone thought, those extra days could help. Sorry this is so difficult :-(
I'd go to the ER and get an ultrasound ASAP. Then I'd go to a new OB, if everything about this doctor is real then there's no reason to continue her services, regardless of the viability of the pregnancy.
Post by pegasuskat on Sept 29, 2014 14:09:41 GMT -5
Google those numbers, it makes no sense what your Dr. is saying, those aren't bad numbers.... I would switch doctors and get another ultra sound asap. Praying for you!
Post by chickenlittle on Sept 29, 2014 14:24:14 GMT -5
Unhelpful anecdote, but I had an u/s at 6w5d with this pregnancy (I was tracking ovulation, so I know that's how far along I was), and there was only a yolk sac. At my 8 week appt, there was a heartbeat. Things can change very quickly at the early stages, and betas really don't tell much of the story.
If you haven't checked it out already, this website is super useful for information about betas, comparisons, and cautions about reading too much into them. www.betabase.info/
Post by lolobeth802 on Sept 29, 2014 14:42:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry I didn't read the other replies but I hope this is helpful. One of my pregnancies was something called a blighted ovum. Where the placenta continued to grow and produce hormones that continued to increase my HCG. But my Dr. told me the only definitive way was to do a follow up U/S. She waited until I was 9 weeks to make sure the pregnancy wasn't progressing. I really think that making a determination with just HCG numbers is a little premature, unless they're actually decreasing. I also remember she said that HCG levels off around that time and they don't use the numbers as am indication of a healthy pregnancy anymore. I've been on this roller coaster before, with 2 different outcomes. It's just awful. I cried and cried and then when I knew I cried one final time. Out of relief that I finally knew I could move on. My thought are with you during this scary time.
Post by sparkythelawyer on Sept 29, 2014 14:51:23 GMT -5
The last fucking thing I would do is race to the ER and tie up emergency room resources for this. This is scary. This is sad. This? Is not a medical emergency. I'd call planned parenthood and see if I could be seen there for a u/s, as they do them as well, if I could not wait until later in the week for an u/s at my doctor's office.