A long time ago I worked retail at thanksgiving/Christmas season. Do you want to see American humanity at its worst? Work retail during our "high holy days." People were awful. It took years before I could enjoy the holidays again.
Post by pixy0stix on Sept 30, 2014 12:01:39 GMT -5
annnnnd... There it is, why there's this problem.
I'm poor, so I need the deals. The money pays for xyz. Bootstraps!
You give no fucks because the corporations have made you that way. It's sad, and it's disgusting (not you, just in general) that we have to have this conversation.
Nope. Not happening. I will be watching football and stuffing myself silly. TBH-I hate Black Friday too so I think I will just veg all TG weekend in the comfort of my pjs. Part of me just wants to go away for the TG holiday, like going to Vegas. If I am going to spend/waste money, why not do it there?
I'm poor, so I need the deals. The money pays for xyz. Bootstraps!
You give no fucks because the corporations have made you that way. It's sad, and it's disgusting (not you, just in general) that we have to have this conversation.
I'm poor, so I need the deals. The money pays for xyz. Bootstraps!
You give no fucks because the corporations have made you that way. It's sad, and it's disgusting (not you, just in general) that we have to have this conversation.
You really are the worst kind of person.
No. I just happen to disagree with you on this particular subject.
I'm poor, so I need the deals. The money pays for xyz. Bootstraps!
You give no fucks because the corporations have made you that way. It's sad, and it's disgusting (not you, just in general) that we have to have this conversation.
You really are the worst kind of person.
Everyone in this thread had expressed the same opinion as Pixy, yet she's the worst? WTF?
When people decided they HAD to get That Thing because they were entitled to it even though they can't afford it and almost assuredly don't need it.
I hate the escalation of consumerism around the holidays.
Right. We're all standing in line for the fucking iPhone 8.
I'm trying hard not to take this comment personally and fucking failing. Because yeah, I totally feel entitled to get a good price on the one fucking thing my damned kid wants for Christmas in a year where I've have to tell him no so mutherfucking often that it's exhausting.
He wants an ipod touch. Not even a new one. Just anyone and if that means I need to dip into fucking walmart at 6pm on Thanksgiving, guess the fuck what?
Just like I walked my happy ass into Game Stop on Thanksgiving night (but it might have been early Black Friday) so I could buy him a $50 used wii.
Also, the year my FIL died, three weeks before Thanksgiving, when my husband ate up all of his time off and the idea of sitting at a thanksgiving table hurt my damned feelings, I was beyond grateful that Cracker Barrel was open.
I think I've also spoke of how working on Thanksgiving and other holidays has put Christmas presents in my kids' stockings as well.
So basically, I give no fucks on this topic. It's just a new non-religious method of pretending the world used to be a better fucking place before such and such people came and ruined it with their [insert judgeworthy ideals here]
Sorry, dude. I don't know what to say. My comment was not aimed at you and I never said I was opposed to stores being open on Thanksgiving. Honestly, I don't care if stores/restaurants/businesses want to treat it like another work day. That's on them. I have taken advantage of those stores being open in the past. I doesn't bother me.
However, I do feel most people (you may choose to infer that I'm lumping you in that group but I'm not) don't need a tenth of what they think they do and the whole Black Friday frenzie is stupid. People have gotten KILLED for a chance to snag some piece of crap toy or a bigger television or what ever. That's some fucked up holiday cheer.
Everyone in this thread had expressed the same opinion as Pixy, yet she's the worst? WTF?
No one else added the "you're just poor and stupid and a minion of corporate america" to their opinion. Adding the caveat doesn't take away from what she said. It was a low fucking blow and you'll pardon me for not carrying on gleefully about my day, assured that she didn't mean me directly.
Also, her response to Blink was pretty condescending and dismissive as well.
A long time ago I worked retail at thanksgiving/Christmas season. Do you want to see American humanity at its worst? Work retail during our "high holy days." People were awful. It took years before I could enjoy the holidays again.
I'm holding your hand because I understand. Seven years at Wal-Mart while I worked through college. I get it, man. I also maintain that, as a retail worker, the day after Christmas is 3000x worse than Black Friday. I watched people get into fistfights over 50%-off wrapping paper and throw epic tantrums and cuss me out when I told them, "No, you can't return that Kenmore appliance here. No, your mother did not buy that here--only Sears sells that brand." And so on and so forth.
Everyone in this thread had expressed the same opinion as Pixy, yet she's the worst? WTF?
No one else added the "you're just poor and stupid and a minion of corporate america" to their opinion. Adding the caveat doesn't take away from what she said. It was a low fucking blow and you'll pardon me for not carrying on gleefully about my day, assured that she didn't mean me directly.
Also, her response to Blink was pretty condescending and dismissive as well.
I said that's the excuses that are trotted out every time. It wasn't personal.
Well, ok, it was to Blink. A grown adult with food aversions should be able to provide their own meal without burdening someone else.
Everyone in this thread had expressed the same opinion as Pixy, yet she's the worst? WTF?
No one else added the "you're just poor and stupid and a minion of corporate america" to their opinion. Adding the caveat doesn't take away from what she said. It was a low fucking blow and you'll pardon me for not carrying on gleefully about my day, assured that she didn't mean me directly.
Also, her response to Blink was pretty condescending and dismissive as well.
They both seemed like pretty poor justifications for "needing" these kinds of places to be open on Thanksgiving Day.
No one else added the "you're just poor and stupid and a minion of corporate america" to their opinion. Adding the caveat doesn't take away from what she said. It was a low fucking blow and you'll pardon me for not carrying on gleefully about my day, assured that she didn't mean me directly.
Also, her response to Blink was pretty condescending and dismissive as well.
They both seemed like pretty poor justifications for "needing" these kinds of places to be open on Thanksgiving Day.
you don't, but if that's when the prices are at the point where you can get something for your kids then guess what happens?
I just want some food, somewhere open on Thanksgiving. I don't like typical Thanksgiving food so we need to stop somewhere after dinner so I can actually eat something.
So why not bring whatever you want to eat in a cooler, and eat that?
Actually, I'll go a step farther and say, you're an adult, you should be able to handle this without requiring someone (i.e. a fast food business) to be open to cater to your needs. You don't *need* to stop anywhere.
I think it is short-sighted to think that no food places would be open. Airports, car rental companies, convenience store workers, police, fire, medical, etc. all are still working. People are still traveling. If someone has to drive 5 hours to get to their Thanksgiving do they get the side-eye because they want to stop somewhere for lunch instead of eating cold sandwiches? What if a nurse just gets off his shift and decides he wants to grab some food before heading home because he worked on Thanksgiving and his family isn't celebrating until Saturday?
Obviously these are sympathetic cases and hating turkey, tofurkey, salad, crunchy cranberry sauce and cheesy potatoes is not, but if some place is open to feed the people traveling hours to see their family or the necessary workers currently working (or just finished working, or just about to go to work) then I'm going to stop and get some food. If that makes me an asshole, oh well. Hopefully not going to a movie theater or shopping on Thanksgiving/BF cancels most of that out.
Post by statlerwaldorf on Sept 30, 2014 12:25:17 GMT -5
It makes me upset. I come from a lower class family and more than half of my family members work crappy retail jobs. Thanksgiving and Christmas were the only two holidays we could get everyone together. It is not like we can reschedule holidays because people work different shifts and almost always work weekends. Requests for weekend days off are often denied especially during the holiday season.
No one else added the "you're just poor and stupid and a minion of corporate america" to their opinion. Adding the caveat doesn't take away from what she said. It was a low fucking blow and you'll pardon me for not carrying on gleefully about my day, assured that she didn't mean me directly.
Also, her response to Blink was pretty condescending and dismissive as well.
They both seemed like pretty poor justifications for "needing" these kinds of places to be open on Thanksgiving Day.
Why do stores need to be open at two a.m all year round?
I guess I just wonder why being open on Thanksgiving is when so many people choose to be outraged on behalf of the American low wage earner? That's what always baffles me about this conversation.
Perhaps if we didn't live in a culture that believed you should be able to shop for a Kitchenaid at three in the morning if you want to, we wouldn't have one that wanted to lure you away from your shitty mother in law and her terrible cooking at 2pm on Thanksgiving Day.
Post by iammalcolmx on Sept 30, 2014 12:29:19 GMT -5
So I ain't touching the contretemps in this thread. However @helenabonhamcarter have you checked Ebay for Ipod Touches? I bought H one for Christmas like 5 years ago so I know how expensive they are.
I also want to add everyone that sits back and watches football at home with their families is also contributing to the corporation greed. All those people in those stadiums, drunk, I would not want to be serving them or cleaning up after them.
They both seemed like pretty poor justifications for "needing" these kinds of places to be open on Thanksgiving Day.
you don't, but if that's when the prices are at the point where you can get something for your kids then guess what happens?
Exactly. I don't place blame on the customers because sometimes they do offer a deal on the hottest toy or trinket that little Johnny has been asking for all year. A good enough deal that would enable someone to get that for their kid(s) that otherwise wouldn't be able to. Why the retailer can't just wait until Friday morning to offer that deal, along with all of their other "deals" is beyond me. I don't see how spreading out these deals over two days really helps a company's bottom line, with all of the added operating and labor costs. Most people only have a finite amount of money to spend on holiday gifts so they aren't necessarily going to spend more just because they have an added day of shopping...
But then again, a lot of people who do not work on Thanksgiving have to work the next day, sooo, I don't know.