(@) evil or genius

[ijack]

kind of genius, but she'll also have to learn how to do it at some point.

[2curlydogs]

I'm the mean mom and say she has to learn to deal with rug time.

Sorry.

ETA: OH! OHOHOH! HOW ABOUT - if she is good at rug time M-Th, on Friday she can eat breakfast at school as a reward.

EVIL GENIUS RIGHT HERE!

[ringstrue]

I think going to eat during rug time is a fine alternative. She's 5. I just turned 35 and if I had rug time first thing in the AM I'd be cranky too.

Clearly LB and M need to just attend their own private kindy with eachother because they have the same "problems" !

[Deleted]

I'd let her eat at school.

What does "winning" and making her do rug time accomplish? Is rug time really a skill one must attain by the age of 6 or ELSE? I don't pick fights that are pointless.

In other words: genius.

[2curlydogs]

Oct 20, 2014 10:52:17 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Oct 20, 2014 10:13:54 GMT -5 2curlydogs said:

I'm the mean mom and say she has to learn to deal with rug time.

Sorry.

ETA: OH! OHOHOH! HOW ABOUT - if she is good at rug time M-Th, on Friday she can eat breakfast at school as a reward.

EVIL GENIUS RIGHT HERE!

i like this b/c it is cheaper. lol!!

Those costs add up! I got our bill for August & September "incidentals" and before/after care and nearly died.

[terpsfan]

Love the breakfast on Friday as a reward for the week idea!

[twotrue]

Dude, I'm stuck on the fact that other kids don't sit where assigned. I can't blame LB one bit for getting pissy about that.

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[jln]

I'd meet her in the middle. If she can sit at rugtime nicely one day, then the next day she gets breakfast at school.

I was a chatterer in school and it hurt me in the classroom. So I'm inclined to give her the chat time she needs so she can focus the rest of the day.

[chedifuen]

I think she's an evil genius for thinking this up on her own

[ttt]

What exactly is rug time?

[stealthmom]

If rugtime is so unimportant that a bunch of kids get to skip for breakfast I would have no problem sending her. Obviously they don't value it that much.

[ttt]

Oct 20, 2014 14:39:04 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Oct 20, 2014 14:35:59 GMT -5 ttt said:

What exactly is rug time?

all the kids sit on a letter on the rug and the teacher reads a story to them.

LB wants to read her own book. she gets mad when kids dont sit on their letter. she wants to yell out the words she knows. she gets mad when kids scoot in front of her and she cant see. its the only time of day she consistently struggles with

Ahh ok. I also agree that you should either let her skip it on certain days on the condition that she behaves well on the other days, or just let her skip it entirely. 

[lilibet]

Oct 20, 2014 14:39:04 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Oct 20, 2014 14:35:59 GMT -5 ttt said:

What exactly is rug time?

all the kids sit on a letter on the rug and the teacher reads a story to them.

LB wants to read her own book. she gets mad when kids dont sit on their letter. she wants to yell out the words she knows. she gets mad when kids scoot in front of her and she cant see. its the only time of day she consistently struggles with

I was going to ask what rug time was too. That sounds like my version of hell, so I totally don't blame LB at all.

I think she's a genius for thinking this up and it doesn't really seem like a hill to die on. Not behaving/liking rug time is not going to impede her focus/cooperation etc for the rest of her school career, ykwim?

[teflepi]

DO they let all kids eat breakfast or just students that are eligible? If all, let her eat there and call it a day. Not a hill I'd choose to die on.

[stealthmom]

Oct 20, 2014 18:40:51 GMT -5 incogneato said:

Oct 20, 2014 14:47:08 GMT -5 stealthmom said:

If rugtime is so unimportant that a bunch of kids get to skip for breakfast I would have no problem sending her. Obviously they don't value it that much.

As a former K teacher I wouldn't say that. It's not like the teachers are all "Fuck this! Go eat! I don't care!" I mean, some kids need to eat breakfast, and most teaching philosophies advocate a whole class activity like circle time or a class story to start the day in order to build community. They can't just let all the kids run amok while the rest of the class is drifting in from breakfast. When I taught, the first kids arrived at 7:40 and some kids were still rolling in at 8:10. I couldn't give 5 year olds 30 minutes of busy work so by 8 we started our morning greeting/story, etc. It was considered an important part of our day and I would have preferred that they all be there for it, but I had no control over that, so.

Anyway, OP, sitting still during stories is tough for lots of kids, so I wouldn't stress if that's her only tough time. I think that a goal of Friday breakfast/missing rug time is a good compromise. You might even talk to the teacher about it so she can work with your kid, if she hasn't already. Maybe giving her a closer seat would help, or moving her away from specific kids who are aggravating her. 

I guess I don't understand why breakfast is scheduled during instructional time.

[eddy]

Eff rug time

[hopecounts]

Coming at this from the position of a parent with a kid with SN's so a little hard ass about this stuff because of the long term implications for DD so read with that in mind.
She needs to learn to deal with rug time.
Doing things we don't like is part of school and ultimately life. Better she learn this skill in Kindy when a little difficulty is expected then when she has a class she dislikes in HS and learns the hard way.

[CallingAllAngels]

Oct 21, 2014 7:32:47 GMT -5 incogneato said:

You can't require kids to get to school way before the school day to eat breakfast, because the busses show up at a set time range and the kids who need free/reduced breakfast are usually the same kids who need to ride the bus.

Maybe I'm not understanding the confusion here, but did everyone think that kids got themselves to school early to eat? 

In our school district the buses arrive to school early (between 7:10-7:15 for a 7:45 start time) so that students can eat before school.  DS eats at home, so we drive him to school ourselves, so that he 1) doesn't have to get on the bus at 6:45 and 2) have to sit around for 30 minutes before class starts. 

[stealthmom]

Oct 21, 2014 7:32:47 GMT -5 incogneato said:

Oct 20, 2014 22:17:38 GMT -5 @kar said:

WTH is instructional time scheduled during breakfast? That seems weird and wrong to me. I wonder if she needs to run around a little more before school starts? Is it possible to get to the playground a little early so she can get some energy and chatter out before the day starts? That seems preferable to avoiding a reasonable sounding K activity just because she doesn't want to sit still and be quiet during a story.

Busses bring kids to school. Some kids need to eat breakfast at school and others do not. So the options are to do nothing instructional with the kids not eating while you wait for the kids who are eating, or to start teaching at some point. It would be awesome if 500 (or whatever) kids could all get off the busses, out of cars, through the breakfast line, and into the classroom in 10 minutes while the teacher gave the early kids some busy work or free play time, but it rarely, in my experience, works that way. Instead, some kids' busses were later than others, some kids got dropped off late by parents, some kids ate really slow, etc, and it took a good 30 minutes between the first kid's arrival and the lat kid's. Something has to be done during that time, and there had better be some academics because we only had 6.5 hours to fit in math, science, social studies, whole class literacy, small group readin, writing, lunch, specials, recess, etc, and time is precious. Also, admins get pissed if they think you re wasting a second of potential teaching time, even you don't have all your kids yet. 

Kindergarten is NOT the blocks and coloring of our youth anymore.

You can't require kids to get to school way before the school day to eat breakfast, because the busses show up at a set time range and the kids who need free/reduced breakfast are usually the same kids who need to ride the bus.

Maybe I'm not understanding the confusion here, but did everyone think that kids got themselves to school early to eat? 

at every school I've ever known breakfast is served before school at a set time. It ends and then school begins at a set time. I've never known of a school where instruction did not start at a set time. And if you're late for school you miss breakfast.

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Oct 20, 2014 14:39:04 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Oct 20, 2014 14:35:59 GMT -5 ttt said:

What exactly is rug time?

all the kids sit on a letter on the rug and the teacher reads a story to them.

LB wants to read her own book. she gets mad when kids dont sit on their letter. she wants to yell out the words she knows. she gets mad when kids scoot in front of her and she cant see. its the only time of day she consistently struggles with

I'd totally let her eat breakfast at school. There are some things some kids don't learn as much as grow out of. I think this is one of them.

[Deleted]

Oct 20, 2014 22:09:31 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

Coming at this from the position of a parent with a kid with SN's so a little hard ass about this stuff because of the long term implications for DD so read with that in mind.
She needs to learn to deal with rug time.
Doing things we don't like is part of school and ultimately life. Better she learn this skill in Kindy when a little difficulty is expected then when she has a class she dislikes in HS and learns the hard way.

How many years are there between kindergarten and high school? Can someone remind me please? I never learned to do things I didn't like.

I mean I know that's a shitty little sarcastic response but really, she's five. I guarantee you rug time ain't the only thing in life she has to do that she doesn't like so it's not the only opportunity to learn that shit sucks and you have to deal. Why make it hard just to prove a point when there is a nifty little alternative waiting right there?