Proof that I'm a Millennial - I didn't get WTF people were saying about "darning a sock" and assumed that was some weird autocorrect.
I think I know the term from Little House books or Little Women or something. Or maybe from being forced to do pioneer days crap in elementary school.
I've never actually known anyone who darned a sock. I'm much more familiar with people saying "this darn(ed) sock has a hole in it" as they throw it away, lol.
My grandma sewed everything. And I mean, everything. She did costumes and uniforms and everything else for my mom's school. But my mom never learned to sew, and in turn, she never taught me. I'm not sure if my grandma tried to teach her or not. I suspect not since my aunt doesn't know how to sew either.
Regardless of sewing, boomers ruined everything. IT IS KNOWN. I hate them so much.
Yeah, they really ruined Jim Crow, among other things.
Next up, a survey of millennial men shows that they are the least likely to fix the lawnmower, clock, other random small household appliances. Things are made like crap and we're all at work.
My H is an Xer (I'm millennial) but he lived with his grandparents so he does a bunch of old timey stuff. He's always surprised when people are throwing things out and will end up bringing home someone's cast off grill/lawnmower/fan, etc. It's always a quick fix FOR HIM, but he has the tools and already has a lot of general knowledge. While it's come in handy, it still doesn't generally make sense for the average person to devote time and resources towards repair given the state of fast fashion, cheap manufacturing and planned obsolescence.
My grandma sewed everything. And I mean, everything. She did costumes and uniforms and everything else for my mom's school. But my mom never learned to sew, and in turn, she never taught me. I'm not sure if my grandma tried to teach her or not. I suspect not since my aunt doesn't know how to sew either.
Regardless of sewing, boomers ruined everything. IT IS KNOWN. I hate them so much.
Yeah, they really ruined Jim Crow, among other things.
Are you arguing that people who were 10-20 years old during the major civil rights events were the root of ending them? As SBP said, Brown v. BOE was 1954. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was 1964 (obvs) and the Voting Rights Act was 1965. At the oldest, any Boomers would be 19/20 at the point of that legislation and I can't imagine their involvement was the driving force or the lack of their involvement would have caused those things to fail?
Post by tacosforlife on Oct 20, 2014 21:13:21 GMT -5
I love that people have identified legit reasons that Boomers didn't teach their kids to sew - money to buy stuff, technology, two working parents - but cranky pants over here is ignoring all of those and just bitching about the kids these days instead.
Post by runforrest on Oct 20, 2014 22:21:41 GMT -5
I have nothing to add to this other than I never iron anything and have never taken it out of the box. We just have stuff dry cleaned if it needs ironing.
Post by sugarglider on Oct 20, 2014 22:45:18 GMT -5
My boomer mom knows how to sew, and I, a millennial, learned how to sew in middle school (a skill I've forgotten but am confident I could pick up again if I cared to). I think my mom may have taught me some, but I don't really care. I'm grateful my mom and dad spent more time being [literal] bosses and brilliant role models.
Also, like someone else mentioned, millennials are used to having far more resources at their fingertips--literally--as we grew up with the Internet. I remember learning how to use yahoo at the same time I was learning how to sew. If I ever wanted to sew again, or cook a gourmet meal, or get a red wine stain out of a white linen tablecloth, I don't have to rely on lessons passed down to me through the generations. I can just google it. I'm glad women especially don't have to waste time on that ish anymore. A few basic survival skills are a good idea--how to read a map / the stars, change a tire, how to respond to certain injuries, etc.--but sewing? No.
Anecdote - when my cousin tested for preschool they showed him a bunch of pictures and he had to name them. He knew every single one except the iron. My boomer aunt responded "we don't iron"
Anecdote - when my cousin tested for preschool they showed him a bunch of pictures and he had to name them. He knew every single one except the iron. My boomer aunt responded "we don't iron"
Yes, people on these boards TOTES just want all Boomers to die so we can have their things.
And nobody has ever lost a parent or received support from people on this board while dealing with the illness or death of a parent. NEWP.
Are you for real with this shit?
Quite.
Are you suggesting that had I posted seeking sympathy, then people would have the common decency not to wish death on other human beings? Is that what it takes?
Or that they would exempt my parents from the blanket condemnation?
No thanks. I doubt that support obtained under that set of circumstances would be very real. They'd go right back to thoughtlessly wishing death on old people in the very next post, never caring who else might feel pained at reading it.
Anecdote - when my cousin tested for preschool they showed him a bunch of pictures and he had to name them. He knew every single one except the iron. My boomer aunt responded "we don't iron"
So see? Boomer fault.
who raised your aunt?
You are so oddly hung up on this issue. If I didn't know better I'd say you were a roady for what's left of the Greatful Dead.
You are so oddly hung up on this issue. If I didn't know better I'd say you were a roady for what's left if the Greatful Dead.
Seriously, think about - if Boomers are the root of all evil, then obviously, whoever raised Boomers are the really, really, really bad people.
Because everyone in a generation is exactly alike, right?
(and I'd rather be hung up on NOT blaming someone else for what's wrong, than hung up with blaming another generation for everything that's wrong with the world)
Oh look, another day, another article knocking millenials.
That aside, I wonder if the prevalence of "disposable fashion" has something to do with this. Cheap, poorly made clothes probably aren't worth darning/repairing/sewing buttons back on. I would do that for an investment piece of clothing, like a nice cashmere sweater, but I'm not going to pull out a sewing kit to repair a cheap tshirt when it's easy to just to buy another one, KWIM?
This is a part of it.
There was a time after WW II when clothing was made in the U.S. by union members who were paid a living wage. Consequently clothing was relatively expensive; in a family with a sole breadwinner (the ideal if not the norm of the era), home sewing was critical to balancing the family budget.
I'm old enough to remember shopping with my grandmother just before she died in the late 1960's. One of the things she bought me was a classic oxford cloth shirt that was $6, or $43 in today's money. That was a lot of money for a child's shirt. Lands End sells a similar shirt today for $27 but of course there'd be a 30% sale before anyone actually bought it. Or I could go to ON or H&M and buy a 3 shirts for that same $27.
If I were to want to sew that shirt today, I'd have to buy a pattern for about $6 (retail $12.50) and buy 3 yards of fabric (100% cotton pinpoint) at about $8/yd plus buttons, interfacing and thread- there's no way I could duplicate the LE shirt at the price they charge. There's no economic inducement to learn to sew. And that not factoring the cost of my time or the investment my sewing machine represents.
Counter that with an education system that has made budgetary cuts around "specials" so that many students aren't exposed to things like sewing or basic wood working in school and you can see where the numbers of home sewists would be down. FWIW, both my millenial DS and niece can do basic sewing but have little interest.
It's funny. In the same era that sewing was a zero order skill for adult women, people ate the majority of their meals at home or brought from home. Eating out was a rare event. Today people get take out or dine out for a lot of the same reasons they buy rather than sew their own clothes- there are more less expensive options avialble and people are pressed for time in dual career families. But people didn't stop learning to cook- in fact, rather the opposite happened. My millenials are very food aware and many of their friends are more competent in the kitchen than their own moms and dads ever were.
Yes, people on these boards TOTES just want all Boomers to die so we can have their things.
And nobody has ever lost a parent or received support from people on this board while dealing with the illness or death of a parent. NEWP.
Are you for real with this shit?
Quite.
Are you suggesting that had I posted seeking sympathy, then people would have the common decency not to wish death on other human beings? Is that what it takes?
Or that they would exempt my parents from the blanket condemnation?
No thanks. I doubt that support obtained under that set of circumstances would be very real. They'd go right back to thoughtlessly wishing death on old people in the very next post, never caring who else might feel pained at reading it.
Maybe there should be a trigger warning.
Well, if you actually posted something pleasant and were a positive contributor to the board community, then yes, you would get support.
sbp has received support about dealing with her FIL. same for stopstaring with regard to her mom. Plenty of posters have received support when their parents or grandparents died.
Nobody has wished death on anyone, young or old. We have discussed the value of using certain heroic measures on the old and infirm from a resource allocation POV.
Good god. You storm in here after a year, guns ablazing, and are surprised nobody is running to support you? Shocker.
Oh look, another day, another article knocking millenials.
That aside, I wonder if the prevalence of "disposable fashion" has something to do with this. Cheap, poorly made clothes probably aren't worth darning/repairing/sewing buttons back on. I would do that for an investment piece of clothing, like a nice cashmere sweater, but I'm not going to pull out a sewing kit to repair a cheap tshirt when it's easy to just to buy another one, KWIM?
This is a part of it.
There was a time after WW II when clothing was made in the U.S. by union members who were paid a living wage. Consequently clothing was relatively expensive; in a family with a sole breadwinner (the ideal if not the norm of the era), home sewing was critical to balancing the family budget.
I'm old enough to remember shopping with my grandmother just before she died in the late 1960's. One of the things she bought me was a classic oxford cloth shirt that was $6, or $43 in today's money. That was a lot of money for a child's shirt. Lands End sells a similar shirt today for $27 but of course there'd be a 30% sale before anyone actually bought it. Or I could go to ON or H&M and buy a 3 shirts for that same $27.
If I were to want to sew that shirt today, I'd have to buy a pattern for about $6 (retail $12.50) and buy 3 yards of fabric (100% cotton pinpoint) at about $8/yd plus buttons, interfacing and thread- there's no way I could duplicate the LE shirt at the price they charge. There's no economic inducement to learn to sew. And that not factoring the cost of my time or the investment my sewing machine represents. Counter that with an education system that has made budgetary cuts around "specials" so that many students aren't exposed to things like sewing or basic wood working in school and you can see where the numbers of home sewists would be down. FWIW, both my millenial DS and niece can do basic sewing but have little interest.
It's funny. In the same era that sewing was a zero order skill for adult women, people ate the majority of their meals at home or brought from home. Eating out was a rare event. Today people get take out or dine out for a lot of the same reasons they buy rather than sew their own clothes- there are more less expensive options avialble and people are pressed for time in dual career families. But people didn't stop learning to cook- in fact, rather the opposite happened. My millenials are very food aware and many of their friends are more competent in the kitchen than their own moms and dads ever were.
And let's see...which generation was it that demanded those budget cuts? Which generation is now screaming and shouting that THEY shouldn't have to pay property taxes like everyone else because their kids aren't in school anymore and therefore schools should just cut everything out so they don't have to pay? Hmm...
"Boy I'm glad I will be known for how well I sewed on a button and washed my clothes" said no one ever.
Apparently, 502 WOMEN should be saying this. I'm assuming they'll survey 500 men to see how well they make a highball and whether they can adequately fix little Jimmy's bike.
Bwahaha, my H that can fix everything that I mentioned a few posts back loves to make a highball. His grandmother basically raised him as a Greatest. Lol, it's like I'm married to an 80 year old.
Eta: what is the group before boomers called? Greatest? Who is Silent?
Bwahaha, my H that can fix everything that I mentioned a few posts back loves to make a highball. His grandmother basically raised him as a Greatest. Lol, it's like I'm married to an 80 year old.
Eta: what is the group before boomers called? Greatest? Who is Silent?
Greatest and silent are the same I think. Not sure though.
Bwahaha, my H that can fix everything that I mentioned a few posts back loves to make a highball. His grandmother basically raised him as a Greatest. Lol, it's like I'm married to an 80 year old.
Eta: what is the group before boomers called? Greatest? Who is Silent?
Greatest and silent are the same I think. Not sure though.
No, Greatest is 1901-1924 and Silent is 1925-1942.
ETA: in terms of wars they fought in (or were old enough to fight in), Lost Generation is WWI, Greatest is WWII, Silent is Korea.
IN 1951, Time magazine set out to paint a portrait of the nation’s youth, those born into the Great Depression. It doomed them as the Silent Generation, and a generally drab lot: cautious and resigned, uninterested in striking out in new directions or shaping the great issues of the day — the outwardly efficient types whose inner agonies the novel “Revolutionary Road” would dissect a decade later.
“Youth’s ambitions have shrunk,” the magazine declared. “Few youngsters today want to mine diamonds in South Africa, ranch in Paraguay, climb Mount Everest, find a cure for cancer, sail around the world or build an industrial empire. Some would like to own a small, independent business, but most want a good job with a big firm, and with it, a kind of suburban idyll.” The young soldier “lacks flame,” students were “docile notetakers.” And the young writer’s flair “sometimes turns out to be nothing more than a byproduct of his neuroses.” (This even before Philip Roth, born 1933, had published a novel.)
“The best thing that can be said for American youth, in or out of uniform, is that it has learned that it must try to make the best of a bad and difficult job, whether that job is life, war, or both,” Time concluded. “The generation which has been called the oldest young generation in the world has achieved a certain maturity.”