I'm going to stump for votes.

[mrs.jacinthe]

I entered the Sunset Magazine saddest lawn contest (LOL) and I'd appreciate it if y'all would head over and give me a vote.  First prize is $100 OSH gift card, phone consultation, and custom list of plants.

Contest ends tomorrow, so if you'd give me a click or two (you know, from your spouse or your friends or ...), I'd appreciate it!


bit.ly/1t6fjrG

[munkii]

Done! I think you've done a good job explaining how you've taken the initiative in starting the work.

[mrsemilys]

Done!

[finally]

Done! Good luck!!!

[TBM]

Oct 20, 2014 17:23:59 GMT -5 @juno said:

I don't have The Facebook I'll pass it along though. Good luck!!

lol @ "The Facebook."  Makes me laugh every time I hear that.

I am not on facebook either.  I made DH vote.  He was kind of annoyed that they access your list of friends or whatever, but he still voted.

[april37]

Done! Good luck!

[pitterwoo]

done and I'll ask H to do it too if he remembers his FB login.

[mrs.jacinthe]

Bumping this for the AM crowd - help a girl out (lurkers, you too) please? I need 32 votes to take the lead and I *know* we've got that many people hanging around here at any given time.

[treedimensional]

Trees don't threaten foundations. Did you really write that?

[pitterwoo]

Oct 21, 2014 11:38:15 GMT -5 treedimensional said:

Trees don't threaten foundations. Did you really write that?

Uh oh! Tree is going to start taking votes away from you.

Really? I thought there was significant risk for trees planted too close to stuff. It's always coming up. Like "Joe I see you took your tree down, we'll miss the fall color.". "Yes Bob, it had to go. The neighbors were complaining about the leaves in their gutters and you know, it was planted TOO CLOSE TO THE FOUNDATION". *real conversation, names changed. Please explain.

[Vespasia]

Done

[libbygrl109]

Done. I thought all of the dogs photobombing the other entrants' photos was kind of cute.

[mrs.jacinthe]

Oct 21, 2014 11:38:15 GMT -5 treedimensional said:

Trees don't threaten foundations. Did you really write that?

I did.  We were advised to take down our camphor trees because they were too close to the house and the roots were encroaching upon/threatening the foundation - it was an easy decision because the ones planted near our fence had already well-nigh destroyed it (the fence) and it was clear that the roots were the problem.

What should I have written instead?  I can edit the post.

[treedimensional]

Oct 21, 2014 11:52:50 GMT -5 pitterwoo said:

Oct 21, 2014 11:38:15 GMT -5 treedimensional said:

Trees don't threaten foundations. Did you really write that?

Uh oh! Tree is going to start taking votes away from you.

Really? I thought there was significant risk for trees planted too close to stuff. It's always coming up. Like "Joe I see you took your tree down, we'll miss the fall color.". "Yes Bob, it had to go. The neighbors were complaining about the leaves in their gutters and you know, it was planted TOO CLOSE TO THE FOUNDATION". *real conversation, names changed. Please explain.

I wouldn't dream of hurting jacinthes votes.

Conversations =/= research.

Trees CAN BE planted too close to buildings. I see it every day. And leaves DO clog gutters. But trees close to buildings doesn't mean foundations will be compromised. In most cases, when roots hit concrete they deflect. They turn abruptly because they can't penetrate. The same thing they do when they live in a pot... the roots hit the side of the pot, and circle endlessly around the wall.

You may think that tree roots buckle foundations the way they buckle sidewalks, but they don't. Roots seek water and oxygen. That's why they exploit expansion joints in sidewalks, pre-existing cracks in sidewalks, and leaky water/sewer pipes underground. There aren't any of these resources in the basement. Unless there is water collecting around your foundation, the roots will deflect. If tree roots break trough your foundation, or your pipes, the tree did not cause it. It only showed you where the problem was before it got even worse.

[treedimensional]

mrs.jacinthe
Don't change anything on my account. I was just surprised by the phrasing, I think.
I usually frame these situations in terms of the tree selection being inappropriate for the site due to size potential. Hardscape conflict is a REAL issue, just not for reasons people think.

[mrs.jacinthe]

Oct 21, 2014 12:58:43 GMT -5 treedimensional said:

mrs.jacinthe
Don't change anything on my account. I was just surprised by the phrasing, I think.
I usually frame these situations in terms of the tree selection being inappropriate for the site due to size potential. Hardscape conflict is a REAL issue, just not for reasons people think.

Got it.  Our arborist indicated that the camphor tree's roots (planted approximately 5 feet from the house) were pushing against the corner pier in the foundation (we're on granite, so the piers do not run deep) and he was concerned it would cause the pier to move eventually.  Given what it did to the fence, I was nervous, especially since that particular pier is right next to the dropoff on the granite ledge.  

I summarized with "threatening the foundation" because I didn't know better.  Thank you for the education.

[pitterwoo]

Oct 21, 2014 12:42:51 GMT -5 treedimensional said:

Oct 21, 2014 11:52:50 GMT -5 pitterwoo said:

Uh oh! Tree is going to start taking votes away from you.

Really? I thought there was significant risk for trees planted too close to stuff. It's always coming up. Like "Joe I see you took your tree down, we'll miss the fall color.". "Yes Bob, it had to go. The neighbors were complaining about the leaves in their gutters and you know, it was planted TOO CLOSE TO THE FOUNDATION". *real conversation, names changed. Please explain.

I wouldn't dream of hurting jacinthes votes.

Conversations =/= research.

Trees CAN BE planted too close to buildings. I see it every day. And leaves DO clog gutters. But trees close to buildings doesn't mean foundations will be compromised. In most cases, when roots hit concrete they deflect. They turn abruptly because they can't penetrate. The same thing they do when they live in a pot... the roots hit the side of the pot, and circle endlessly around the wall.

You may think that tree roots buckle foundations the way they buckle sidewalks, but they don't. Roots seek water and oxygen. That's why they exploit expansion joints in sidewalks, pre-existing cracks in sidewalks, and leaky water/sewer pipes underground. There aren't any of these resources in the basement. Unless there is water collecting around your foundation, the roots will deflect. If tree roots break trough your foundation, or your pipes, the tree did not cause it. It only showed you where the problem was before it got even worse.

Yes, just that it comes up constantly in conversations about trees was my point. Not at all saying they know what they're talking about.

How many more votes do you need mrsj?

[WinterWine]

Lurker but I voted for you!! Need to do an intro on the delurking post :-)

[mrs.jacinthe]

Oct 21, 2014 15:37:44 GMT -5 pitterwoo said:

Oct 21, 2014 12:42:51 GMT -5 treedimensional said:

I wouldn't dream of hurting jacinthes votes.

Conversations =/= research.

Trees CAN BE planted too close to buildings. I see it every day. And leaves DO clog gutters. But trees close to buildings doesn't mean foundations will be compromised. In most cases, when roots hit concrete they deflect. They turn abruptly because they can't penetrate. The same thing they do when they live in a pot... the roots hit the side of the pot, and circle endlessly around the wall.

You may think that tree roots buckle foundations the way they buckle sidewalks, but they don't. Roots seek water and oxygen. That's why they exploit expansion joints in sidewalks, pre-existing cracks in sidewalks, and leaky water/sewer pipes underground. There aren't any of these resources in the basement. Unless there is water collecting around your foundation, the roots will deflect. If tree roots break trough your foundation, or your pipes, the tree did not cause it. It only showed you where the problem was before it got even worse.

Yes, just that it comes up constantly in conversations about trees was my point. Not at all saying they know what they're talking about.

How many more votes do you need mrsj?

I'm currently tied for 3rd with 15 votes.

1st place has 40.  So ... 26 for the win.