Little Girls Saying Fuck, or Feminism, And also Fashion?

[FloFTW]

What do we think of this?

www.adweek.com/adfreak/watch-6-year-old-and-her-friends-drop-f-bombs-feminism-and-sell-clothes-160918

[ttt]

I know I'm old fashioned but I don't find this cute or clever at all.

[IIOY]

Does this child have a British accent? Because I will always laugh at a small child cursing in a British accent.

[FloFTW]

I'm having trouble forming a coherent thought still.

[AJL]

*I* liked it. It's on par with FCKH8's style. It's shocking on purpose and I appreciate the message. However I not a pearl clutcher.

[josieposy]

You know, they make a good fucking point.

[frlcb]

Not British.

And not appealing to me. At all.

[ttt]

I really resent the whole "OMG people care more about little girls cursing than about women being raped!!!" Like it isn't possible to care deeply about this issue but also think it's inappropriate and off-putting to have little girls talking like sailors?

[AJL]

I do love the line "I shouldn't need a penis to get paid."

[AJL]

ttt, why do you think it's inappropriate and off-putting for little girls to "talk like sailors"?

[2curlydogs]

I don't understand how this is activism. Or meaningful.

The "Which one of us 5 little girls will be raped" part SHOULD be moving. Failed.

And why are all these little girls acting like they belong on RHONJ?

[josieposy]

I like it but I'm not sure I can articulate why. I have to think about this.

[CrazyLucky]

I went into it expecting to hate it, but I don't. It's an interesting way to make a point. If my daughter ever talks like that, she's in big trouble though.

[jeaniebueller]

I like the message. I like the outrage as presented by the girls. I don't like how its presented.

[ttt]

Oct 22, 2014 10:42:27 GMT -5 AJL said:

ttt, why do you think it's inappropriate and off-putting for little girls to "talk like sailors"?

First of all because it's something for adults. I don't think kids should talk like that personally. I also don't really think 6 year olds need to be learning about rape.

[downtoearth]

Oct 22, 2014 10:42:27 GMT -5 AJL said:

ttt, why do you think it's inappropriate and off-putting for little girls to "talk like sailors"?

I'm a little with ttt - like the idea that girls should be feminists (and boys) from elementary on, but I'm not comfortable with them swearing to get the point across. I also wouldn't let my boys do this.  I also want my kid to be sensitive about rape from the get go of learning, but harsh words don't feel sensitive to the subject. It feels like swear words are for adults... like fine wine and microbreweries.

This is just a brain dump, but it also bothers me subconsciously.  As women start being slightly inferior to males right around high school (or even middle school) and beyond into our careers, it seems like us women have to overcompensate and be MORE well spoken, and MORE appropriate to make it in a male-world. Crass and harsh women get labeled as bossy early and bitch later and it hurts their career options in a male dominated society (and other women, let's be honest).  So we women start getting our foot in the door by speaking more properly, doing more for less, and trying to fit into the mold that a male-dominated society won't label as a bitch or pushy instead of leader.  I know rationally that women shouldn't be held to different standards, but it's hard to subconsciously step away from that and be ok hearing any little kid speak so harshly.

[heyjude]

Didn't watch.

But I don't support turning kids into little swearing adults. Let kids be fucking kids for the short time they get as kids.

I didn't like that little swearing Ruby skit from Funny or Die a few years ago either.

#old

[lulu13]

I thought I would hate it but I actually like it. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to express this but I feel like taking the power by not being afraid to express rage about rape is refreshing. Girls their age are raped regularly all over the world and maybe we should be talking to our girls from a very early age about this very real threat. Taking the cloak of silence and fear around the topic and making it very fucking clear early on that these are all issues we need to be in front of. I would not necessarily show this video to my 11 year old DD but I have thought a lot recently about how we need to work on creating a very open dialogue around these issues. I don't want it to be fear based like there's a rapist around every corner but more of a frank discussion about it.

[cattledogkisses]

I'm with ttt and the others who dislike the foul language. And lest someone think that's coming from a sexist "girls should act like ladies" place, I would dislike it just as much if it were little boys cursing up a storm.

I'm sure it's supposed to be edgy, but to me it's just offputting.

[heyjude]

I actually think there is something a little bit sexist in the idea that it is titilating that a girl is swearing.

[taratru]

I find it equal parts hilarious and interesting.

[2curlydogs]

Oct 22, 2014 11:10:18 GMT -5 heyjude said:

I actually think there is something a little bit sexist in the idea that it is titilating that a girl is swearing.

It's IRONIC! Duh!

Look, I curse like a sailor. It bothers exactly one person - my dad.

Yet I somehow have managed to not teach my 3 year old to curse. Not even on accident. And he's a boy, so it has little to do with gender.

[ttt]

Also I think it's especially not cute that they're doing this with the real goal of selling shirts.

[ringstrue]

Well the whole point is upset you with the swearing and attitude. So, it worked?

[wawa]

Oct 22, 2014 11:24:45 GMT -5 2curlydogs said:

Oct 22, 2014 11:10:18 GMT -5 heyjude said:

I actually think there is something a little bit sexist in the idea that it is titilating that a girl is swearing.

It's IRONIC! Duh!

Look, I curse like a sailor. It bothers exactly one person - my dad.

Yet I somehow have managed to not teach my 3 year old to curse. Not even on accident. And he's a boy, so it has little to do with gender.

Teach me your ways please? 

[mcfelix]

I love it. I wasn't sure what to expect. The profanity is what's making people watch it - which is spreading the message. And it's an important message so I can appreciate having the little girls be potty mouths as a way to being attention to the video.

If the same video was out in the internet universe with no profanity, we wouldn't be talking about it and barely anyone would be watching it.

Love it. And I'm going to order a shirt.

[ttt]

Oct 22, 2014 12:38:08 GMT -5 mcfelix said:

I love it. I wasn't sure what to expect. The profanity is what's making people watch it - which is spreading the message. And it's an important message so I can appreciate having the little girls be potty mouths as a way to being attention to the video.

If the same video was out in the internet universe with no profanity, we wouldn't be talking about it and barely anyone would be watching it.

Love it. And I'm going to order a shirt.

Spreading what message, though? Who is watching this and learning something new? What everyone is talking about is how little girls are swearing, not about the issues in the video. Is that really a success? 

[ttt]

Oct 22, 2014 12:25:11 GMT -5 ringstrue said:

Well the whole point is upset you with the swearing and attitude. So, it worked?

No, the whole point is to get people who already know and agree with the points made in the video to buy $25 t-shirts. 

[Deleted]

It's not really the swearing that gets to me. Kids figure out these words one way or another, and a word is pretty much as powerful as you allow it to be.

It's the topics, and the anger they present. Yes it's causing the shock effect, but at the loss of a bit of these actors'/kids' innocence. Kids always lose innocence due to adult issues and fuck-ups, and it's sad to see that be a deliberate choice. This isn't on par with Hitler or Kony of course, but takes me in that line of thought; an adult agenda is deliberately stripping a child of that very short time where you may be relatively carefree.

The messages are valid, but the method leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[mcfelix]

Oct 22, 2014 12:51:43 GMT -5 ttt said:

Oct 22, 2014 12:38:08 GMT -5 mcfelix said:

I love it. I wasn't sure what to expect. The profanity is what's making people watch it - which is spreading the message. And it's an important message so I can appreciate having the little girls be potty mouths as a way to being attention to the video.

If the same video was out in the internet universe with no profanity, we wouldn't be talking about it and barely anyone would be watching it.

Love it. And I'm going to order a shirt.

Spreading what message, though? Who is watching this and learning something new? What everyone is talking about is how little girls are swearing, not about the issues in the video. Is that really a success? 

I agree with you to an extent. But I think it there will be people that watch the video just to see what all this little girls saying the F word is all about and hear the message about inequality. Will one video make a difference? No. But repeated exposure to hearing people talk about the gender inequality and related issues WILL make a difference. Even for people who don't agree with the message. Just hearing it has an impact, and helps chip away at the bigger issue, imo.