WTF school! Get your shit together!

[EmilieMadison]

My kids' school nurse just called and said "So I see that Charlie is supposed to have Benadryl as part of his Anaphylaxis action plan [he has a peanut allergy]. Could you sent that?"

I told her that the benadryl was sent along with the Epi Pens. Then she came back and said, "Oh, hmm. Well I dont have any Epi Pens either."

WHAT THE FUCK. 

I dropped them off with the teacher myself on the first day of school. I told the nurse and she was like, "Huh, well we do have another nurse in here sometimes so maybe she put it somewhere else?" I told her to call his teacher because I gave them to her.

The nurse just called me back and told me that the meds are in his classroom in the medicine cabinet. Jesus. 

Good to know that if my kid ingests peanuts that he's in good fucking hands with these people who have no idea where his meds even are, 2 months after school started. 

[aussiecrush]

Holy shit. I thought it was bad enough that the K teacher said, upon meeting us, that she wouldn't administer the Epi pen. At least they knew where B's meds were. Glad they found them but I'd still be pissed.

[anlo]

I would have a hard time keeping my cool on the phone over that. Wtf indeed.

[ohgillian]

This is terrifying.

[eb777888]

Oh, wow. Yeah, they need to get their shit together.

[adhdfashion]

Not cool! Knock some heads around.

[mich1]

Lemme see if I've got this straight....

The school nurse, who is supposed to be on top of these sort of things can't find the supplies she'd need if your son had an emergency?

Did she even bother to look before she called?

[joenali]

You guys are lucky to even have a nurse. We've been without a nurse for over a month. Our nurses area has been run by parent volunteers. And when we do have a nurse, they are only at school twice a week. :/

[isabel]

Man. I can just imagine her calling you and being like, "So, C ingested some peanuts and he's having a reaction. Does he have an epi pen around here somewhere?" I might be inclined to talk to the principal about that. This is not the first week of school!

[EmilieMadison]

Oct 22, 2014 13:30:05 GMT -5 mich1 said:

Lemme see if I've got this straight....

The school nurse, who is supposed to be on top of these sort of things can't find the supplies she'd need if your son had an emergency?

Did she even bother to look before she called?

Bingo.

[EmilieMadison]

Oct 22, 2014 13:32:30 GMT -5 joenali said:

You guys are lucky to even have a nurse. We've been without a nurse for over a month. Our nurses area has been run by parent volunteers. And when we do have a nurse, they are only at school twice a week. :/

Yes, we're SO LUCKY. 

[EmilieMadison]

Oct 22, 2014 13:40:58 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Did the teacher have a reason as to why they were not where they were supposed to be?

Apparently they're supposed to be in the classroom :/  But the fucking nurse didnt even know this. 

[jlt19]

Wow, I'd be pretty livid.

At least they're following up with it at all? And trying to follow the action plan? My daycare didn't follow my plan nor my direct instructions to epi DS after an ingestion/vomiting.

[livinitup]

My little cousin has Celiac. When she started kindergarten, my cousin (her mother) met with the teacher and school nurse to discuss options to mitigate her exposure to gluten. Every fvcking recommendation by the school nurse was restriction and isolation. Classroom playing with play dough? The teacher recommended vigorous hand washing after. Nope, the nurse said, send her to a separate table, keep her there until the other children finish. My sister just bought GF play dough, and instructed the children to not intermingle. Everything was like that - no help at all.

[lilac05]

I would be livid! Although a bit thankful that the nurse was obviously reviewing action plans before they were necessary. Hopefully the teacher, who would be the first to know if he was having a reaction, knew where to find them. It makes sense that the epi pens would be stored near where the child is most likely to need it, but you'd think the nurse would know that!

Any chance the nurse is new?

[Deleted]

Oct 22, 2014 13:32:30 GMT -5 joenali said:

You guys are lucky to even have a nurse. We've been without a nurse for over a month. Our nurses area has been run by parent volunteers. And when we do have a nurse, they are only at school twice a week. :/

My last school was the same way. We shared a nurse with 2 other elementary schools, so we saw her twice a week.  The rest of the time the kids were seen by the school secretaries.  They obviously were only trained in basic first aid, but they had to consult a manual before treating the kids. 

ETA: They could only give the kids a bag of ice, if the manual called for it, and they had to stay in the office with the ice.

I'm glad to be back at a school with a full time nurse where the kids can get itch cream, Vaseline, Tylenol, or any other OTC meds if needed (with prior parent consent). 

[iamgrace]

In ontario there is no such thing as school nurses.

Anyway, I'd be on the phone with the principal discussing this shit asap.

[jlt19]

Oct 22, 2014 16:32:51 GMT -5 @chloe77 said:

Oct 22, 2014 13:42:19 GMT -5 jlt19 said:

Wow, I'd be pretty livid.

At least they're following up with it at all? And trying to follow the action plan? My daycare didn't follow my plan nor my direct instructions to epi DS after an ingestion/vomiting.

WHAT??  He ingested and you told them to epi and they refused?

Yep. She decided to wait until the emt's got there, which was 20 minutes. They felt he didn't need it.

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Oct 22, 2014 13:45:03 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Oct 22, 2014 13:41:26 GMT -5 EmilieMadison said:

Yes, we're SO LUCKY. 

THERE ARE STARVING CHILDREN IN AFRICA THAT HAVE NO NURSES AT ALL, EMILIE.  THINK OF THAT NEXT TIME YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR KID'S LIFE SAVING MEDICINE GOING MISSING.

#prayingforyoutoopenyourhearttotheafricanbabies

Now, now. Those poor babies will just walk to where they'll find nurses. #BOOTSTRAPSFORAFRICA!!!

(please note the sarcasm font)

Hope the nurse just needs some training, what a mess.

[Miss Phryne Fisher]

My mom's head would explode at this. She is a school nurse. The epi pens are kept in the nurses office here, and she has backups in case. Here the meds have to be checked in by the nurse so giving it to the teacher would not have been an option. I am so glad he didn't have any reaction with this mess going on.

[sequins]

[joenali]

You guys are such fucking assholes. But I love you all!

[littlepeanut]

Oh, you need to call and heads need to roll.

[skib]

Oct 22, 2014 11:02:48 GMT -5 aussiecrush said:

Holy shit. I thought it was bad enough that the K teacher said, upon meeting us, that she wouldn't administer the Epi pen. At least they knew where B's meds were. Glad they found them but I'd still be pissed.

So your child's teacher said that she wouldn't administer a life-saving drug to your child? His/her (sorry, can't remember) throat closes up, and she's just going to sit there and watch your child die or something? What did you say?!?

[sharknado]

Oct 22, 2014 19:45:03 GMT -5 littlepeanut said:

Oh, you need to call and heads need to roll.

Wtf?

[sharknado]

Anyone want to hear from a school nurse?

[panicked]

Oct 22, 2014 17:58:29 GMT -5 jlt19 said:

Oct 22, 2014 16:32:51 GMT -5 @chloe77 said:

WHAT??  He ingested and you told them to epi and they refused?

Yep. She decided to wait until the emt's got there, which was 20 minutes. They felt he didn't need it.

And you sued and had them all fired, yes?

[allaboutme]

Oct 22, 2014 20:05:53 GMT -5 sharknado said:

Anyone want to hear from a school nurse?

And....Go

[aussiecrush]

Oct 22, 2014 19:57:09 GMT -5 skib said:

Oct 22, 2014 11:02:48 GMT -5 aussiecrush said:

Holy shit. I thought it was bad enough that the K teacher said, upon meeting us, that she wouldn't administer the Epi pen. At least they knew where B's meds were. Glad they found them but I'd still be pissed.

So your child's teacher said that she wouldn't administer a life-saving drug to your child? His/her (sorry, can't remember) throat closes up, and she's just going to sit there and watch your child die or something? What did you say?!?

His, and yes that's what the teacher said. I asked if she meant can't or wouldn't. She stated that she was too scared and it would scare the other kids. I told her B dying would be a lot scarier for everyone and then went to the admin. The principal, teacher and I took a class together on the proper use of the epi pen and she signed paperwork saying she understood how, and that she agreed, to use it. I was so filled with rage my tone was that scary calm. B has special needs and his teacher is the only problem in the whole thing. Drives me nuts but I do believe she'd help him now.

[skib]

Oct 22, 2014 20:20:31 GMT -5 aussiecrush said:

Oct 22, 2014 19:57:09 GMT -5 skib said:

So your child's teacher said that she wouldn't administer a life-saving drug to your child? His/her (sorry, can't remember) throat closes up, and she's just going to sit there and watch your child die or something? What did you say?!?

His, and yes that's what the teacher said. I asked if she meant can't or wouldn't. She stated that she was too scared and it would scare the other kids. I told her B dying would be a lot scarier for everyone and then went to the admin. The principal, teacher and I took a class together on the proper use of the epi pen and she signed paperwork saying she understood how, and that she agreed, to use it. I was so filled with rage my tone was that scary calm. B has special needs and his teacher is the only problem in the whole thing. Drives me nuts but I do believe she'd help him now.

I just can't believe that you had to go through all that to get her to agree to give him an epi pen. I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. What an awful situation.