I don't like it and I swear like a sailor. They are too young to understand any of that. Someone is using them to promote a message. It doesn't matter that the message is good and important. Leave the kids out of it.
I do like the video and we were discussing it on another board I post on and some people brought up the fact they didn't like children being used to deliver a message they may not understand and should be left to be kids and not making these viral campaigns. I get that sentiment, I do. It gave me pause.
I was startled about 1 in 5 girls will be sexually assaulted. I had not heard that stat before and it's scary and horrible and I'm glad the video brought that to my attention.
Post by themoneytree on Oct 22, 2014 20:23:58 GMT -5
I don't like it. I actually found the delivery distracted from the message. The message was great and it is attention grabbing, but not in a good way for me.
Post by cinderbella on Oct 22, 2014 20:41:22 GMT -5
The girls may not understand the magnitude of the statistics but they can definitely understand the basics. My daughter is seven and would absolutely comprehend the facts.
Post by EmilieMadison on Oct 22, 2014 21:38:57 GMT -5
I dont think we give kids enough credit when it comes to grasping very adult concepts. My 9 year old DD would definitely understand these issues. I dont want to see little kids running around saying fuck on the playground. But this? I'm ok with this. I also think kids should learn how and when and where to use profanity, so maybe I'm biased.
I don't like it and I swear like a sailor. They are too young to understand any of that. Someone is using them to promote a message. It doesn't matter that the message is good and important. Leave the kids out of it.
Since one in five of them will be sexually assaulted at some point I'd say that the message they're promoting is pretty relevant to them and they should not be left out of it.
But right now, they are still innocent little girls, not women. They have plenty of time ahead to grasp those realities and fight for feminism. I just don't like using children to promote messages.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Oct 22, 2014 21:48:41 GMT -5
I think they understand what they're saying.
I don't have a problem with them saying fuck or talking about the fact that 1 in 5 women have been raped. The fact that they are talking about it is hopefully shocking enough to get those of us who are old enough to do more than just talk about it to get out there and try to effect change so these girls never have firsthand understanding of this level of abuse and inequality.
Post by themoneytree on Oct 22, 2014 21:51:45 GMT -5
I don't mind them being the ones to convey the message. I think that is powerful and I think they can understand the message they are sending.
It's the constant 'fucks' that I dislike. I feel like it actually dilutes the message and makes it less accessible to those who need to hear it the most.
But right now, they are still innocent little girls, not women. They have plenty of time ahead to grasp those realities and fight for feminism. I just don't like using children to promote messages.
Innocent little girls who are being raised in a society that allows for 1 in 5 of them to be sexually assaulted. They don't need to think every male out there is going to rape them and I csn see people getting all gaspy about the f-bombs but hell yes they should be aware of what our culture is doing to girls like them. At what point is it "ok" for them to know this? 12? 15?
I don't know. Some of them don't look older than my daughter who is 7 and has no idea at all about sex, let alone sexual assault. I don't have answers. I was just sharing how that video made me feel. I would have loved it had it been young teenagers.
Since one in five of them will be sexually assaulted at some point I'd say that the message they're promoting is pretty relevant to them and they should not be left out of it.
But right now, they are still innocent little girls, not women. They have plenty of time ahead to grasp those realities and fight for feminism. I just don't like using children to promote messages.
At their age I was being raped regularly by a member of my family. The message applies to them, not just grown women. I was part of that 1 in 5 statistic long before I understood what innocent meant.
But right now, they are still innocent little girls, not women. They have plenty of time ahead to grasp those realities and fight for feminism. I just don't like using children to promote messages.
At their age I was being raped regularly by a member of my family. The message applies to them, not just grown women. I was part of that 1 in 5 statistic long before I understood what innocent meant.
Innocent little girls who are being raised in a society that allows for 1 in 5 of them to be sexually assaulted. They don't need to think every male out there is going to rape them and I csn see people getting all gaspy about the f-bombs but hell yes they should be aware of what our culture is doing to girls like them. At what point is it "ok" for them to know this? 12? 15?
I don't know. Some of them don't look older than my daughter who is 7 and has no idea at all about sex, let alone sexual assault. I don't have answers. I was just sharing how that video made me feel. I would have loved it had it been young teenagers.
Young teenagers are getting pregnant because they dont really understand about sex, and many of them are victims of sexual assaut. A 7 year old is fully capable of understanding what sex is, when it's ok, and when it's not.
At their age I was being raped regularly by a member of my family. The message applies to them, not just grown women. I was part of that 1 in 5 statistic long before I understood what innocent meant.
I am so sorry, I have no words.
Thank you. I don't mean to direct my issues at you. You have little girls to raise. It's scary and heart breaking. The message is jarring, and usually I'd agree about having kids promote it. This time I think it's really important.
Post by killercupcake on Oct 22, 2014 22:23:21 GMT -5
I'm going to post what a friend posted along with this link, because I think it applies:
"Reminds of me of Tony Campolo talking about poverty and people being more offended by him using the F word than the offensiveness of people dying of hunger."
The stats are what's mean to be offensive. The language is there to get your attention.
I think they're a bit young to be talking about rape etc. I am not pearl clutchy at all and swear like a sailor and this does not sit well with me.
You realize that children that young ARE raped, yes? Please read through the comments.
Yes, I totally get that. I was molested for years and years as a child, but as a parent I wouldn't want my children talking about it and having to explain that hell to them.
You realize that children that young ARE raped, yes? Please read through the comments.
Yes, I totally get that. I was molested for years and years as a child, but as a parent I wouldn't want my children talking about it and having to explain that hell to them.
I"m sorry. I must be misunderstanding you. You wouldn't want your young children to know about molestation... because you were molested?
You realize that children that young ARE raped, yes? Please read through the comments.
Yes, I totally get that. I was molested for years and years as a child, but as a parent I wouldn't want my children talking about it and having to explain that hell to them.
It's because of my abuse that I started taking about these issues early and often. I'm sorry for what you've been through, truly, but not talking about it won't keep your children safe, it puts them at risk.