Ebola in NYC.

[KB]

Oct 23, 2014 20:21:34 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Oct 23, 2014 20:07:32 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

I'm going to Zimbabwe for work in a few months.

I told my mom today and she flipped. We had to have an extensive discussion about where, exactly, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea are located and how the virus spreads.

They are now saying that the doctor should have his license revoked.

Why?

[gozf]

My friend who was afraid of a stain on the subway last week is acting both smug and terrified now. And she's, like, live blogging her every paranoid thought on FB.

I want to post this on her wall;

[nursewife]

Oct 23, 2014 21:12:50 GMT -5 isabel said:

Oct 23, 2014 20:21:34 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

They are now saying that the doctor should have his license revoked.

Someone on my fb said the nurse who flew to Ohio should have treatment withheld. Yup.

Wtf??!!

[lilybug]

We had to put our ebola plan into action last week and were praised by the CDC. *preens*

I think that the parents keeping their kids home from school are completely ridiculous. One kid's dad was on a plane with the second infected nurse. The dad put himself in voluntary isolation from his family as soon as he heard. AND the family pulled their kids from school and kept them home. The school was cleaned by a hazmat team. Yet you still have parents freaking out.

IMO that is almost like tragedy whoring. "OMG, little Kayden goes to school with the daughter of the cousin of a guy who lives next door to an airline pilot who MAY have been at the same airport with an ebola patient!!1! Better keep him home!"

[Jalapeñomel]

OMG the hysteria here is out of control.

[thebreakfastclub]

This case is so different to me. The doctor monitored his temperature x2 a day, and as soon as he had a 103 degree fever, he called for an ambulance. They arrived in hazmat suits and he was immediately quarantined.

I doubt he left an ebola-filled bowling ball behind, despite the news emphasis on that part of the story. Although bowling is kind of squicky when you think about it...

[nonsensetomfoolery]

So, maybe posting while intoxicated isn't the best idea. I have no defense except it made sense (to me) at the time. I will take my well-deserved lumps and just apologize for being a dumbass.      

[v]

Oct 24, 2014 7:05:27 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

I don't get the hysteria. We knew it would come eventually, it did, 2 people got it and are improving. This new case was not contracted in the US and I'm sure that we will handle it better and it won't spread much, if at all. We also seem to be able to provide good care to keep people alive while suffering through it.

This is exactly what was predicted- we would quickly contain any outbreak. So why the drama?

How else are you going to fill the 24 hour news cycle?

[JLV]

I swear, this is bringing out all the crazy and stupid.

The news also pisses me off so much. They are like, "The CDC is pretty certain this is not going to spread, BUT he traveled on the subway, took a cab, and bowled at a very popular bowling alley!!"

[MixedBerryJam]

Oct 23, 2014 20:04:02 GMT -5 lilibet said:

Oct 23, 2014 19:57:11 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Yes, the incubation period can be up to 21 days.

I hope this doesn't set off a new wave of panic, but I'm sure it probably will.

It already led my coworkers to have a conversation about how they should stop accepting all flights from "these countries" into the US and how we shouldn't let "these people" in.

At which point I walked away for a few minutes. Of course, when I came back they had moved on to how the flu shot can cause autism. So, yeah....

There are NO COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS from any of those countries into the US. None. Not a single one. Ever.

[Muddled]

Oct 23, 2014 20:01:39 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

If I die of Ebola, I hereby leave my puppies to vicky. Unless she croaks too. Then Muddled will have to take them.

Sorry, guys.

Sorry, kid. My ll would freak. You're just going to have to live through this.

[Muddled]

BTW, that is my very favorite bowling alley.

[Deleted]

I will say I would not be happy to learn I had been using the same bowling ball that he used the night before he got ebola, but I think there are a lot of lessons from the Texas case. The man's fiancee, with whom he was sharing a bed, presumably having sex, and kissing (exchanging spit), did not get ebola. Nor did anyone who hugged him or had casual contact. People seem to get infected when taking care of a patient who is very sick - I read somewhere that the higher the viral load, the more infectious, which makes sense.

Anyway, since we are 100% at curing patients who get prompt treatment (and at curing Americans) I would assume that (if people were rational) we would all be much less panicked about ebola than a month ago.

[whattheheck]

I have a friend who came in contact with the doctor's girlfriend on Saturday. He has been told to work from home for the next 21 days.

[sharknado]

Oct 23, 2014 21:13:16 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Oct 23, 2014 21:05:23 GMT -5 hisno1girl said:

I've had ongoing discussions with people about this and everyone keeps saying that they need to shut the borders (overreacting, IMO) and institute mandatory quarantines for people arriving in the US from affected areas.

My question is this: Can the US even do that? Institute mandatory quarantines?

FTR I do not think mandatory quarantines are needed. I'm not worried about Ebola, there are much bigger fish to fry when it comes to public safety.

Those people are nuts, too. Mandatory quarantines and "closing the border" would not only be crazy costly, they'd be next to impossible and would actually worsen the situation.

First, there are no direct flights to Liberia, Sierra Leone, or Guinea. People have to fly through a European or other African hub to get there.

Second, where the fuck would you put all of the people who traveled to these countries while they waited out the 21 days? And where is that money going to come from?

Third, if you did this, people would only lie about where they'd been, which would make it harder to determine who actually did have Ebola and who didn't.

Any time they say on the news that someone MIGHT have Ebola, if they don't meet two of the following three criteria (are from one of the three countries affected, are a medical professional / a family member who has been caring for patients / loved ones  with Ebola, and / or have been in one of the three countries affected within the past 21 days), I know it's likely malaria, dengue, or typhoid instead.

Who are you? Your knowledge on this is fascinating.

[underwaterrhymes]

sharknado - I work in international development and public health, albeit not in the infectious disease area.

[sharknado]

Oct 24, 2014 11:36:31 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

sharknado - I work in international development and public health, albeit not in the infectious disease area.

I'm glad we have you as resource.
We had a training the other day and we have a handout on what we are supposed to do if we suspect a student has Ebola. I was so irritated that we let the drama into the school system IN COLORADO.

[Muddled]

Oct 24, 2014 11:38:08 GMT -5 sharknado said:

Oct 24, 2014 11:36:31 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

sharknado - I work in international development and public health, albeit not in the infectious disease area.

I'm glad we have you as resource.
We had a training the other day and we have a handout on what we are supposed to do if we suspect a student has Ebola. I was so irritated that we let the drama into the school system IN COLORADO.

Preparedness =/= drama

[Deleted]

Oct 24, 2014 7:04:06 GMT -5 thebreakfastclub said:

This case is so different to me. The doctor monitored his temperature x2 a day, and as soon as he had a 103 degree fever, he called for an ambulance. They arrived in hazmat suits and he was immediately quarantined.

I doubt he left an ebola-filled bowling ball behind, despite the news emphasis on that part of the story. Although bowling is kind of squicky when you think about it...

I remember I saw someone wear the bowling shoes without socks and I was like ahhhhhh 

[mellimel19]

Oct 23, 2014 19:59:23 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Oct 23, 2014 19:57:11 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Yes, the incubation period can be up to 21 days.

I hope this doesn't set off a new wave of panic, but I'm sure it probably will.

It already has.  My stupid FB moms board for the area are about to climb into their bunkers and never come out again. 

The FB moms group for my neighborhood is arguing that the NY Marathon should be cancelled because it passes right through our neighborhood, and a runner who is infected with Ebola could sweat on, spit on, or pee on others.

[mellimel19]

Yeah. I think one or two people pointed out the fact that it's doubtful anyone with Ebola would be able to run a marathon. Those comments were completely ignored.

[sharknado]

Oct 24, 2014 14:37:59 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Oct 24, 2014 11:38:08 GMT -5 sharknado said:

I'm glad we have you as resource.
We had a training the other day and we have a handout on what we are supposed to do if we suspect a student has Ebola. I was so irritated that we let the drama into the school system IN COLORADO.

Why is in Colorado in caps? Lol, it's good to be prepared.

Because our threat level is low.
I just feel like we as nurses should know the basics, like transmission and all that jazz and that an extra 30 minutes in an all day workshop was a bit much.
And we aren't prepared, we were given a handout that tells us to ask about travel, take their temp and call our boss.
No PPE was distributed.

[Muddled]

Oct 24, 2014 14:42:53 GMT -5 sharknado said:

Oct 24, 2014 14:37:59 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Why is in Colorado in caps? Lol, it's good to be prepared.

Because our threat level is low.
I just feel like we as nurses should know the basics, like transmission and all that jazz and that an extra 30 minutes in an all day workshop was a bit much.
And we aren't prepared, we were given a handout that tells us to ask about travel, take their temp and call our boss.
No PPE was distributed.

Why would they distribute PPE? Your role is simply to identify a threat and deliver it up the ladder. You are not expected to care for the case.

[Muddled]

Oct 24, 2014 13:39:33 GMT -5 mellimel19 said:

Oct 23, 2014 19:59:23 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

It already has.  My stupid FB moms board for the area are about to climb into their bunkers and never come out again. 

The FB moms group for my neighborhood is arguing that the NY Marathon should be cancelled because it passes right through our neighborhood, and a runner who is infected with Ebola could sweat on, spit on, or pee on others.

You should tell people to quit licking the street.

It runs through my neighborhood, too. If people are freaked out by this, I am blissfully unaware.

[CurlyQ284]

Oct 24, 2014 13:49:18 GMT -5 @mx said:

Oct 24, 2014 13:39:33 GMT -5 mellimel19 said:

The FB moms group for my neighborhood is arguing that the NY Marathon should be cancelled because it passes right through our neighborhood, and a runner who is infected with Ebola could sweat on, spit on, or pee on others.

This is amazing. If you can run a marathon while contagious with Ebola you aren't human.

I do believe we have an ex catfish - I mean poster - who can absolutely run a marathon with ebola. And get her best time evah!

[lightyears]

i would just like to add that i saw a comment on facebook that this is all due to the fact that "people with Ebola bang a lot" so that's causing it to spread faster.

seems legit.