School shooting?

[sangria]

Near Seattle?

Students seen running from school 

[iammalcolmx]

Someone posted about this on ML because it's local to her?

[lys]

Marysville WA -
Shooter has killed himself -
Students are evacuated now

[lys]

Marysville-Pilchuck High School
One student taken to a Regional Trauma center
7 other people were shot

[sangria]

I'm fucking done. DONE.

Put up metal detectors in every damn entrance to every damn school in America. Make it like the fucking airport.

I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE

[mominatrix]

fuck. fuck. fuck.

[mominatrix]

blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2014/10/shooting-reported-at-marysville-pilchuck-high-school/

[chedifuen]

Fuck this shit! God!

[secretlyevil]

Oh no, dammit.

[irishbride2]

Oct 24, 2014 13:40:11 GMT -5 sangria said:

I'm fucking done. DONE.

Put up metal detectors in every damn entrance to every damn school in America. Make it like the fucking airport.

I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE

One of my old schools had metal detectors. We still found guns all the time. 


All metal detectors do, IMO, is create an atmosphere of fear. 

[josieposy]

[taratru]

Jesus.

We had a shooting scare last week...lots of rumors and social media fed the (thankfully non-existent) fire. That was a fantastic couple of days.

[sangria]

Oct 24, 2014 13:59:03 GMT -5 irishbride2 said:

Oct 24, 2014 13:40:11 GMT -5 sangria said:

I'm fucking done. DONE.

Put up metal detectors in every damn entrance to every damn school in America. Make it like the fucking airport.

I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE

One of my old schools had metal detectors. We still found guns all the time. 


All metal detectors do, IMO, is create an atmosphere of fear. 

I actually don’t really believe in putting up metal detectors in every school, I just so tired of this happening in schools. But I will say this, I’m not sure at this point that having metal detectors creates any more an atmosphere of fear than the ever present school shootings and active shooter drills now taking place in every school in America. I think the fear is already there.

[mbcdefg]

Oh dear

Re: metal detectors - MH's school installed them a few years ago (after a student was stabbed to death), and he says nowadays they're not even switched on most of the time.

[downtoearth]

Why do our kids have guns? This is so sad.

[lys]

Oct 24, 2014 14:15:46 GMT -5 downtoearth said:

Why do our kids have guns? This is so sad.

The bigger question is why does a child feel the need to have a gun?
What is the child's problem?  Why did the problem occur?  What can be done to prevent that problem.

A gun is not the problem (just look at the Canadian Ax attack yesterday) -- where there is a motive, there is a way.

[rugbywife]

Oct 24, 2014 14:26:22 GMT -5 lys said:

Oct 24, 2014 14:15:46 GMT -5 downtoearth said:

Why do our kids have guns? This is so sad.

The bigger question is why does a child feel the need to have a gun?
What is the child's problem?  Why did the problem occur?  What can be done to prevent that problem.

A gun is not the problem (just look at the Canadian Ax attack yesterday) -- where there is a motive, there is a way.

huh? I don't get the correlation. 

[lg28]

Oct 24, 2014 14:26:22 GMT -5 lys said:

Oct 24, 2014 14:15:46 GMT -5 downtoearth said:

Why do our kids have guns? This is so sad.

The bigger question is why does a child feel the need to have a gun?
What is the child's problem?  Why did the problem occur?  What can be done to prevent that problem.

A gun is not the problem (just look at the Canadian Ax attack yesterday) -- where there is a motive, there is a way.

The ax attack was in NYC, wasn't it?

The shooting in Canada was a rare event, fortunately.

[mbcdefg]

Oct 24, 2014 15:25:34 GMT -5 lg28 said:

Oct 24, 2014 14:26:22 GMT -5 lys said:

The bigger question is why does a child feel the need to have a gun?
What is the child's problem?  Why did the problem occur?  What can be done to prevent that problem.

A gun is not the problem (just look at the Canadian Ax attack yesterday) -- where there is a motive, there is a way.

The ax attack was in NYC, wasn't it?

The shooting in Canada was a rare event, fortunately.

Yes: www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/24/axe-wielding-man-police-cctv-video_n_6043038.html?ncid=webmail1

[eponinepontmercy]

Oct 24, 2014 14:26:22 GMT -5 lys said:

Oct 24, 2014 14:15:46 GMT -5 downtoearth said:

Why do our kids have guns? This is so sad.

The bigger question is why does a child feel the need to have a gun?
What is the child's problem?  Why did the problem occur?  What can be done to prevent that problem.

A gun is not the problem (just look at the Canadian Ax attack yesterday) -- where there is a motive, there is a way.

The bigger question is how did the shooter get this gun.

[irishbride2]

Oct 24, 2014 14:06:33 GMT -5 sangria said:

Oct 24, 2014 13:59:03 GMT -5 irishbride2 said:

One of my old schools had metal detectors. We still found guns all the time. 


All metal detectors do, IMO, is create an atmosphere of fear. 

I actually don’t really believe in putting up metal detectors in every school, I just so tired of this happening in schools. But I will say this, I’m not sure at this point that having metal detectors creates any more an atmosphere of fear than the ever present school shootings and active shooter drills now taking place in every school in America. I think the fear is already there.

Well I don't think they should do active shooter drills with kids either. We do a lockdown drill once or twice a year but that's hardly the same as a daily metal detector.

[downtoearth]

Oh it gets worse...it looks like he was mad b/c a girl didn't want to date him. He killed himself, another person (perhaps the girl) and shot 4 others b/c he couldn't deal with rejection. So very, sad.

"[Another student], said the shooter was angry at a girl who would not date him, and that the girl was one of the people shot. He said he believes one of the victims was his [other student's] friend since kindergarten"

blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2014/10/shooting-reported-at-marysville-pilchuck-high-school/

[rugbywife]

Oh, I thought Ax was short for something.

[mominatrix]

Oct 24, 2014 15:37:13 GMT -5 eponinepontmercy said:

Oct 24, 2014 14:26:22 GMT -5 lys said:

The bigger question is why does a child feel the need to have a gun?
What is the child's problem?  Why did the problem occur?  What can be done to prevent that problem.

A gun is not the problem (just look at the Canadian Ax attack yesterday) -- where there is a motive, there is a way.

The bigger question is how did the shooter get this gun.

this is where the "near Seattle" aspect of this is making it hard.

Marysville is about an hour or more from the city, to the north. It's rural. It's very rural, farming rural. There's more suburbia developments than in years past, but it's definitely not 'the city' and my guess is it wouldn't be hard for a  kid to get a gun there.

[mbcdefg]

[The shooter] was announced as the high school's freshman homecoming king on October 17, according to YouTube video of the ceremony and accounts from students to CNN.

[His] multiple social media accounts depict him frequently hunting, and using rifles. His social media accounts say he was a Native American and a member of the Tulalip tribe.

www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/us/washington-school-shooting/index.html

[sangria]

Oh good. So now girls should be scared to say no.

Remember the poor girl this spring who was stabbed to death for declining a prom invitation?

Goodness.

[eponinepontmercy]

Oct 24, 2014 15:47:09 GMT -5 mominatrix said:

Oct 24, 2014 15:37:13 GMT -5 eponinepontmercy said:

The bigger question is how did the shooter get this gun.

this is where the "near Seattle" aspect of this is making it hard.

Marysville is about an hour or more from the city, to the north. It's rural. It's very rural, farming rural. There's more suburbia developments than in years past, but it's definitely not 'the city' and my guess is it wouldn't be hard for a  kid to get a gun there.

I take back my suburban bias.  

[lys]

Oct 24, 2014 15:25:34 GMT -5 lg28 said:

Oct 24, 2014 14:26:22 GMT -5 lys said:

The bigger question is why does a child feel the need to have a gun?
What is the child's problem?  Why did the problem occur?  What can be done to prevent that problem.

A gun is not the problem (just look at the Canadian Ax attack yesterday) -- where there is a motive, there is a way.

The ax attack was in NYC, wasn't it?

The shooting in Canada was a rare event, fortunately.

Yes, ax attack was in NYC -

[secretlyevil]

For the love of all that is holy, where did society go so wrong that people (children, hell, adults too) think violence is the solution to their problems?

[NewOrleans]

“Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.” --Margaret Atwood