Meh, Mr. P and I catch wasps in our house and take them outside to release them. I don't like to kill anything either and I grew up on a farm. You probably aren't going to change her mind, but you can say you don't want to hear about it.
I really don't care how other people do things in their own houses.
Just ask her to not discuss it with you and move on.
Oh, I do (and your surely must, right? About some things at least?). If this was my friend and they wanted to talk animal killing with me, they'd get a lecture about no-kill traps. And I would refuse to talk to the. About anything other than humane (meaning, no-kill -- not electrocution) pest removal methods. That's what you get when you sign up for friendship with me
Which is why not discussing it would be the best plan of action.
You're being just as uncompromising as she is. She doesn't have to shell out for electric mouse traps to be humane. I'm not down for that cost either. These are $1.48 for a two-pack, and they kill quickly, reliably, and end it right then and there for the mouse. That is where I draw my line, just that they not suffer.
Either stop talking to her about it - and I mean stop talking about your electric trap suggestion in addition to her glue trap solution - or suggest something more middle of the road.
Post by cinnamoncox on Nov 21, 2014 10:29:05 GMT -5
I would tell her you just don't want to hear it anymore. That would really bother me if I had to hear it.
A few summers ago there was a little rat in my yard and my dad was there and it looked weird so I asked him wtf was going on (rat was shivering but it was summer) and out of nowhere my dad grabbed a shovel and put it out of its misery. Right in front if me, no warning. He said it appeared to have been poisoned and he wanted to keep it from suffering. Well,it was a bit traumatic for me. I understand people can't have rodents around, but there's got to be a more humane way than poison, right? Oh man. Just tell her no more mice talk. Around you, anyway. Yikes.
Ugh, I lived in an apartment infested with mice once. Let me tell you, when you have an infestation, those no-kill and "humane" traps are garbage. They don't work. So I wouldn't judge unless you've experienced this.
That said, I think it's perfectly acceptable to say, hey Friend, this topic turns my stomach. Can we talk about something else? And change the subject.
I'm not a fan of glue traps. I use the traps that Susie suggested, they work great. I'd roll my eyes if you suggested electric traps to me too. I'd also roll my eyes at anyone who gets offended that I kill rodents. Because, no.
But really you just need to tell her to shut up, and you need to shut it too. A mutual shutting up.
Ugh, I lived in an apartment infested with mice once. Let me tell you, when you have an infestation, those no-kill and "humane" traps are garbage. They don't work. So I wouldn't judge unless you've experienced this.
That said, I think it's perfectly acceptable to say, hey Friend, this topic turns my stomach. Can we talk about something else? And change the subject.
Traps, period, are not a way of stopping a real infestation (I've lived through a really bad one, and was able to fix the problem without any casualties). What you really need to do is find and block their point of entry because otherwise you can kill/relocate all you want but the friends and family are still going to move in. Also, cut off their food supply by keeping everything in mouse-proof containers and keeping the home squeaky clean. Then catch the guys who are still in the home (and in my case, relocate them).
Ugh, I lived in an apartment infested with mice once. Let me tell you, when you have an infestation, those no-kill and "humane" traps are garbage. They don't work. So I wouldn't judge unless you've experienced this.
That said, I think it's perfectly acceptable to say, hey Friend, this topic turns my stomach. Can we talk about something else? And change the subject.
Traps, period, are not a way of stopping a real infestation (I've lived through a really bad one, and was able to fix the problem without any casualties). What you really need to do is find and block their point of entry because otherwise you can kill/relocate all you want but the friends and family are still going to move in. Also, cut off their food supply by keeping everything in mouse-proof containers and keeping the home squeaky clean. Then catch the guys who are still in the home (and in my case, relocate them).
Oh, I agree about sealing off the entry points. In my case, though, there was a GAPING hole under my sink that my landlord refused to fix. So I moved out.
Glad I'm done with that slumlord. But I tried all types of traps. They would just knock them out of the way. The only way to catch them was to cover the floor in glue traps so they had nowhere to run but into them. I know it sounds awful, but it was awful for me too. I caught more than a dozen mice and when I left, they were still streaming in. I'm talking about a REAL infestation.
I really don't care how other people do things in their own houses.
Just ask her to not discuss it with you and move on.
Oh, I do (and your surely must, right? About some things at least?). If this was my friend and they wanted to talk animal killing with me, they'd get a lecture about no-kill traps. And I would refuse to talk to the. About anything other than humane (meaning, no-kill -- not electrocution) pest removal methods. That's what you get when you sign up for friendship with me
Which is why not discussing it would be the best plan of action.
I used to care a whole lot more than I do now. I only care about things that are imminently dangerous to people. Otherwise, if it works for them, whatever. I would say that my job has led me to care a lot less about what people do in their own homes after some of the things I've seen.
Post by hopenotlost on Nov 21, 2014 14:05:39 GMT -5
I posted this in another thread, but during harvest, mice run out of the fields and into nearby houses. We live on an acreage next to a field. This year we must have gotten a pregnant mouse in the house because we caught her and her babies. We caught her in a trap and 3 babies. The other four I caught myself. I took a towel and threw it over the mouse, and then scooped the whole towel up, and threw it outside. My farm cats loved an easy snack. I felt bad for about 2 seconds, but it's not like they would have lived being outside with a dozen furry hunters tracking them down either.
Honestly, as someone who has worked relentlessly in animal rescue and has had a mouse infestation, at some point you just want to kill the fuckers and you don't care how because they have already ruined most of your food and you have to sanitize the entire house and repaint the pantry. It's rather rage inducing. I tried humane at first, but they were horribly ineffective. Those plastic snap traps are what we opted for and not only did I see a few that had been sprung and were empty, but as I was about to grab one, it wriggled out and took off. Those cheap little plug in mouse repellers are awesome too.
Look, I'm all about being humane but I sure as hell wouldn't shell out $50 for a mousetrap. Maybe she can't afford that. And honestly, regardless of how they are being killed I really don't want to hear about it. I would just ask her to stop discussing it with you.