The Next Bill Cosby

[IIOY]

Nov 21, 2014 13:55:29 GMT -5 @soudesafinado said:

There’s a simple solution: Reporters can do their jobs, let their readers know about credible charges on the public record, and ask Howard about them if they get the chance. (They could also ask his costars and the producers who hired him about the allegations, too.) Reporters fell down on that job for years with Bill Cosby. They shouldn’t make the same mistake with Terrence Howard.

I would like to see journalists step up their game and do some actual, hard-hitting reporting on many more things these days, including really challenging politicians and others about the things they say, but I'm not holding my breath.  Rolling Stone/UVA-style articles are few and far between, unfortunately.

[pixy0stix]

Jeebus. This guy is bad news.

[laurenpetro]

How is Bill Cosby not the next Terrence Howard?

[jeaniebueller]

I thought that there have been rumors and under the radar stories about Howard's treatment of women for years.

[tacosforlife]

Wow. What an asshole. And not to minimize the violence against women, but yeah, sounds like this dude has...shall we say...anger issues toward approximately all of humanity.

[IIOY]

Isn't TH the one who said he will not date a woman who doesn't use wet wipes after she poops?

[StrawberryBlondie]

I feel like I've heard this before.

[Deleted]

I thought everyone knew Terrence Howard was a douchewad and at minimum, a wife beater and misogynist.

[busybodyk]

Nov 21, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Terrence Howard isn't beloved though. And I don't feel like anyone in the black community will attempt to close ranks around him.

He had always seemed like an asshole and if you told most people he was abusive they'd be like "yep I believe it, seems like an asshole".

I agree. But he is sooooo fine. Damn.... Can't support him anymore.

[tacosforlife]

Nov 21, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Terrence Howard isn't beloved though. 

That is a good point.

I mean, Bill Cosby sold us JELLO, for Christ's sake. JELLO.

Finding out he's rapey is like finding out simultaneously that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy aren't real and oh by the way your favorite uncle sodomizes ponies in his spare time.

[Deleted]

Nov 21, 2014 16:00:47 GMT -5 tacosforlife said:

Nov 21, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Terrence Howard isn't beloved though. 

That is a good point.

I mean, Bill Cosby sold us JELLO, for Christ's sake. JELLO.

Finding out he's rapey is like finding out simultaneously that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy aren't real and oh by the way your favorite uncle sodomizes ponies in his spare time.

Your favorite my little pony to boot.

I mean he raised up girls to women on that damned show. Finding out he was raping women of the same age is just . . . no.

[mcsangel2]

Nov 21, 2014 16:00:47 GMT -5 tacosforlife said:

Nov 21, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Terrence Howard isn't beloved though. 

That is a good point.

I mean, Bill Cosby sold us JELLO, for Christ's sake. JELLO.

Finding out he's rapey is like finding out simultaneously that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy aren't real and oh by the way your favorite uncle sodomizes ponies in his spare time.

Not just Jello. I first knew Bill Cosby in the late 70s, when he hosted Picture Pages as a segment on Captain Kangaroo. I always made sure to watch it. All this stuff with him makes my head want to explode.

And then I get sad that all those incidents are past the statute of limitations, and he can't be arrested and tried for them.

[mcsangel2]

Nov 21, 2014 16:04:38 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

Nov 21, 2014 16:00:47 GMT -5 tacosforlife said:

That is a good point.

I mean, Bill Cosby sold us JELLO, for Christ's sake. JELLO.

Finding out he's rapey is like finding out simultaneously that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy aren't real and oh by the way your favorite uncle sodomizes ponies in his spare time.

Your favorite my little pony to boot.

I mean he raised up girls to women on that damned show. Finding out he was raping women of the same age is just . . . no.

God, I know, right? I was a teenager when Cosby Show was on, and there are some episodes that made a big impression on me.

[summer]

Nov 21, 2014 14:05:48 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Nov 21, 2014 13:55:29 GMT -5 @soudesafinado said:

There’s a simple solution: Reporters can do their jobs, let their readers know about credible charges on the public record, and ask Howard about them if they get the chance. (They could also ask his costars and the producers who hired him about the allegations, too.) Reporters fell down on that job for years with Bill Cosby. They shouldn’t make the same mistake with Terrence Howard.

I would like to see journalists step up their game and do some actual, hard-hitting reporting on many more things these days, including really challenging politicians and others about the things they say, but I'm not holding my breath.  Rolling Stone/UVA-style articles are few and far between, unfortunately.

My dream.  Journalists let people say anything and never question it. 

AlJazeera international does some good interviews but I get the impression most of America still thinks they are an arm of al-Qaeda

[StrawberryBlondie]

Nov 22, 2014 5:44:52 GMT -5 summer said:

Nov 21, 2014 14:05:48 GMT -5 IIOY said:

I would like to see journalists step up their game and do some actual, hard-hitting reporting on many more things these days, including really challenging politicians and others about the things they say, but I'm not holding my breath.  Rolling Stone/UVA-style articles are few and far between, unfortunately.

My dream.  Journalists let people say anything and never question it. 

AlJazeera international does some good interviews but I get the impression most of America still thinks they are an arm of al-Qaeda

One of my coworkers thought this. He's super smart, former big law attorney.

[msmerymac]

Wow, he lives near me. I did not know that.

Ironically, I think his career began with a guest role on the Cosby Show.

But yeah, I just mentioned this to my husband and he said, "Who's Terrance Howard?" I mentioned some things he's been in and he said, "Oh, yeah, I've heard of him." But people don't have a visceral reaction of happy memories with Terrance Howard the way they do Bill Cosby. Which isn't saying that Howard's career shouldn't be over for this shit (it should be), but that most people probably wouldn't care if the media made bigger deals about these incidents. Also, I'm not sure that Empire is really like a star vehicle for Terrance Howard. It's not like people are demanding he do a project or that he himself has enough star power to bring most people to watch the show, IMO.

[msmerymac]

Nov 22, 2014 5:44:52 GMT -5 summer said:

Nov 21, 2014 14:05:48 GMT -5 IIOY said:

I would like to see journalists step up their game and do some actual, hard-hitting reporting on many more things these days, including really challenging politicians and others about the things they say, but I'm not holding my breath.  Rolling Stone/UVA-style articles are few and far between, unfortunately.

My dream.  Journalists let people say anything and never question it. 

AlJazeera international does some good interviews but I get the impression most of America still thinks they are an arm of al-Qaeda

BBC used to do some good interviews. Like they weren't afraid to just let silence sit for a while in order to get a good answer out of someone (or force them into an answer). But I'm not sure if they've become more American/celebrity journalist style lately.

[saz]

An acquaintance of mine had an affair with TH. She hasn't told me many details but I think she was possibly underage at the time. She has also shared that she has been in some abusive relationships and now I'm wondering if these two stories overlap. Either way, I've thought he was a dbag every since she told me so this isn't surprising at all.

[IIOY]

Nov 22, 2014 10:41:22 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Nov 22, 2014 5:44:52 GMT -5 summer said:

My dream.  Journalists let people say anything and never question it. 

AlJazeera international does some good interviews but I get the impression most of America still thinks they are an arm of al-Qaeda

BBC used to do some good interviews. Like they weren't afraid to just let silence sit for a while in order to get a good answer out of someone (or force them into an answer). But I'm not sure if they've become more American/celebrity journalist style lately.

BBC can be pushy to the point of being damn rude. It can be quite gratifying to listen to, and I do not understand why American journalists are so soft. We Americans are supposed to be brash and bold yet our journalists are wimps. I'm guessing it had to do with the cozy relationship many of them have developed with politicians.

[msmerymac]

Nov 22, 2014 11:55:36 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Nov 22, 2014 10:41:22 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

BBC used to do some good interviews. Like they weren't afraid to just let silence sit for a while in order to get a good answer out of someone (or force them into an answer). But I'm not sure if they've become more American/celebrity journalist style lately.

BBC can be pushy to the point of being damn rude. It can be quite gratifying to listen to, and I do not understand why American journalists are so soft. We Americans are supposed to be brash and bold yet our journalists are wimps. I'm guessing it had to do with the cozy relationship many of them have developed with politicians.

It might also be the commercialization of news. It's not really a loss leader because it's important socially and politically anymore. It's designed to make money, like so many other things, so there's little line between journalism and entertainment in most places. You always have to fill the air with something, so lob a few softballs and laugh with your subjects. You can't be too controversial (unless that's the point), because you'll lose viewers or advertisers or be accused of bias. 

[elleblue]

Nov 21, 2014 15:02:32 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Isn't TH the one who said he will not date a woman who doesn't use wet wipes after she poops?

I thought it was just after using the bathroom in general? In any case, he's a pig but I don't think these stories are as shocking to people because he's never been thought of as America's Dad, unlike Cosby.