We had to call a police officer who wouldn't make a determination based on the paperwork. They basically just said whoever got P first would be the one to take him
So we were waiting in the principals office with xh in the other room. My roommate was here to get her son. I went and snuck out of the principals office, got P and sent him with her around the back of the school.
OMG. This is getting out of control and really scary.
It is, but honestly I think achase's exh's lawyer is pretty smart actually and is taking advantage of her lawyer pretty much falling down on the job and not being super responsive. achase I know I've said this to you before, but please, please find a smart aggressive lawyer to go after your asshole of an exh. Do it right now. I know you have great ties to the business community and I'm sure someone has a recommendation. Find someone who also has associates they can send on your behalf if needed for emergencies. You need assistance way beyond what someone can give you for free. They have an obligation to their paying clients and you are always going to come last.
OMG. This is getting out of control and really scary.
It is, but honestly I think achase's exh's lawyer is pretty smart actually and is taking advantage of her lawyer pretty much falling down on the job and not being super responsive. achase I know I've said this to you before, but please, please find a smart aggressive lawyer to go after your asshole of an exh. Do it right now. I know you have great ties to the business community and I'm sure someone has a recommendation. Find someone who also has associates they can send on your behalf if needed for emergencies. You need assistance way beyond what someone can give you for free. They have an obligation to their paying clients and you are always going to come last.
Post by cuddlyevil on Nov 21, 2014 15:55:39 GMT -5
Okay, so what is his plan going forward? Does he have a plan to deal with their assertion that you are keeping P from exH and that he should become primary parent?
What has your lawyer done to get the paperwork fixed?
Nothing. We have the hearing on Wednesday.
Why? Why is he not trying to get in touch with the judge to find out what it says? Why is he not filing a Motion to Clarify? What is his plan for the next five days? YOU will be the one your XH harasses and comes to. XH will use this to show you keeping P from him and build a case for parental alienation. Why is everyone okay with this vague order being what you have and just shrugging and doing nothing for five days? He's not doing anything "wrong" but he is NOT advocating for you. AT ALL. The fact that he wasn't calling the court DAILY to get the paperwork signed in the first place. The fact that he wasn't doing anything to GET the paperwork in a timely fashion once it WAS signed, the fact that he let you go to court and let you talk to opposing counsel without your attorney, it's all ridiculous. He's not FIGHTING for you. Your XH's attorney is being an advocate. She is fighting for him. Lawyers really and truly can and do win cases.
Post by lyssbobiss, Command, B613 on Nov 21, 2014 16:14:48 GMT -5
Get an actual attorney. One who practices family law. One who is getting paid for your/his time so he has an actual legitimate reason to give a crap about getting things done. Something about this doesn't add up for me, but worst case scenario, I'm afraid of your ex running off with your kid.
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
Our position is just to wait until the judge clarifies on Wednesday.
WHY!?!
This. Right here.
While you and your attorney are waiting for the hearing. His attorney is going to have him showing up to school to try and pick P up, trying to facetime with him, and whatever else will make him look like the suitable parent and you look like you are withholding P for no reason. His attorney is going to do everything she can to make you look like the failure here and your attorney is doing nothing to protect you here.
Post by jojoandleo on Nov 21, 2014 16:19:31 GMT -5
This is your XH's story:
My XW has denied me visitation the last two times. I have jumped through hoops for her. SHe requested two different drug tests from me just to harass me. I did them and both came back clean, but she STILL won't let me see my son. I am trying to do everything I can. As soon as I heard that she was attempting to deny visitation, I went up to the courts. The order does NOT take away my visitation, but she is STILL claiming I can't see my son. I tried to go to the school, even the cop told her she doesn't have the right to take away my visitation. She snuck him out the back of the school just to keep me from him. I don't know what more I can do to see MY SON!
Here is your story: I filed some stuff that never went through. My attorney didn't check on it. I called a few times but nothing got done. I told XH our son was sick to protect him. Then, when the paperwork came through, it was sent to the wrong place. We sat around and waited to get it. It was vague at best. I found out we had a hearing, but refused to negotiate because my lawyer didn't show up, even though XH and his lawyer showed up. The paperwork was never clarified, but I am keeping P anyway.
Look-we all KNOW you XH is a PoS. A COURT does NOT know that. They only know what EVIDENCE is presented. Your XH is visibly fighting for his son. You and your attorney are sitting around waiting.
You have been so strong in advocating for P that you shouldn't stop now. I'm just going to sit here and consign jojoandleo and lyssbobiss, Command, B613. You need someone fighting for you and P. I worry that you'll be the one found in contempt by the judge.
I'm on the phone with another attorney now. I'm trying to get this figured out and do the right thing.
I personally think you are a great advocate and YOU are trying everything you can to make this situation okay. I HOPE it all comes out in your favor. I KNOW you all have other evidence against your XH. I just have PERSONALLY seen this go so wrong where a parent denies visitation to protect their kid and gets in trouble.
I sat in a courtroom the other day where a guy was charged with domestic violence, but the wife changed her tune when testifying. Even though they had a witness who saw him screaming at her and yank her, even though they had pictures of her puffy face after being hit, even though they had statements from the cops-there was not enough hard evidence without her testimony to prove it. So he walked. The judge KNEW he was guilty. Everyone did, but you can't make a judgment from a bench based on your gut. You have to have a certain amount of evidence-clear weight of the evidence, preponderance of the evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt. The system is not perfect, hence why you need an advocate in your corner.
I am so sorry all this is going on. I do think you are a good mom.
Just got off of the phone with the other attorney. He basically said the same thing as mine. That the order is ambiguous and you have to go with your gut. He's appalled that the judge wouldn't help us. He wants to get a good cause letter from the das office so we can show proof that we tried everything in our power to do this right.
Just got off of the phone with the other attorney. He basically said the same thing as mine. That the order is ambiguous and you have to go with your gut. He's appalled that the judge wouldn't help us. He wants to get a good cause letter from the das office so we can show proof that we tried everything in our power to do this right.
See, this is what I am saying! Get something from someone showing you TRIED to do the right thing. YES! That will at least give me piece of mind, which is really very important.
I'm glad you're speaking to another lawyer. I agree with PPs, you need a much more aggressive attorney to fight for you and P. I'm scared that you're going to lose him due to this current lawyer. You need a bull dog lawyer that will hit the ground running!!
Please don't say this. This is what I'm very fearful of obviously.