Our first year didn't pass. I am devestated. He is so smart, went to a top 10 school, was EIC of law review,, and works so hard. I am totally perplexed about it. We are incredibly busy, and he's been a huge help, so he won't get fired but I am already horrified at the thought that he is going to be off for 6 weeks studying. And afraid he won't pass the second time, and was looking forward to him being admitted so he could take on more work. And worried it will mess with his head. Ughh.
One of our first years failed to pass as well. The results for our state came out about a month ago. There are 3 of them and the other two passed. It makes it even worse. I feel so bad for him. He's still with us, but I'm honestly not sure what happens if he doesn't pass the second time.
I actually don't know how much time he'll have off to study for this second go. I know it's definitely different, but after I was admitted in my home state and working full time, I took the bar exam of the neighboring state. I never really asked, but I only took off the day of the test and the day before. Hopefully they'll give him some time.
One of my firm "classmates" failed the bar the first time. And we were all in this a associate retreat meeting together when the results came out electronically. It was a nightmare. Passed the second time, though!
That's so shitty . Poor guy. I read something a couple weeks ago about a state that mistakenly told some people they passed when they actually failed. I think it was Nebraska or maybe Kansas? Can you imagine thinking you passed and getting a call a week or two later saying you didn't? Omg, horrible.
That's so shitty . Poor guy. I read something a couple weeks ago about a state that mistakenly told some people they passed when they actually failed. I think it was Nebraska or maybe Kansas? Can you imagine thinking you passed and getting a call a week or two later saying you didn't? Omg, horrible.
It was nebraska and totally messed up situation! One person who I know had a friend who didn't pass originally end up passing, and another friend who thought he had passed ended up missing it by .5 a point! Congrats littleduck H
This is so sad. I can't imagine how hard it is to try again, the strain of waiting is bad enough, and he must be shattered. Having to buck it back up and do it again must be terrifying. Kudos to your firm for keeping him on. How close was he?
They don't tell you in CA. I think our firm is only keeping him because he is good. I would have cried if they had fired him, I have been so busy and he has been so helpful to me. He stayed with me until after midnight two days this week.
One of our first years failed to pass as well. The results for our state came out about a month ago. There are 3 of them and the other two passed. It makes it even worse. I feel so bad for him. He's still with us, but I'm honestly not sure what happens if he doesn't pass the second time.
I actually don't know how much time he'll have off to study for this second go. I know it's definitely different, but after I was admitted in my home state and working full time, I took the bar exam of the neighboring state. I never really asked, but I only took off the day of the test and the day before. Hopefully they'll give him some time.
I have never worked with a first year who failed. I know a few people who failed because they didn't study but I am sure this guy studied. He was telling me was afraid while we were at the office late this week and I was totally like "you'll, pass, you'll definitsly pass." Ugh. He is such a good associate too.
Post by hungrycaterpillar on Nov 22, 2014 16:03:31 GMT -5
Congratulations Mr. Duck!
God this scares me so much. I'm not taking the bar exam, but I do have my board exam coming up in July. I'm also applying for a competitive residency. The residency starts in May so I'd be working on a temporary license, but if you fail the board exam they bump you from the residency (obviously). I can't imagine getting my score and having to tell my supervisor that I didn't pass.
Poor guy. Do you think he didn't deal with the anxiety well? I think that sometimes gets the people who should have no trouble passing.
No, that's the thing. We had two filings in different cases due this week. Tremendous pressure on both, and he totally prioritized and allocated time approrpriately. He is really young- skipped a few grades and then graduated college early- and he is really smart. So I am thinking it was either immaturity or over-thinking. Probanly overthinking.
Poor guy. Do you think he didn't deal with the anxiety well? I think that sometimes gets the people who should have no trouble passing.
No, that's the thing. We had two filings in different cases due this week. Tremendous pressure on both, and he totally prioritized and allocated time approrpriately. He is really young- skipped a few grades and then graduated college early- and he is really smart. So I am thinking it was either immaturity or over-thinking. Probanly overthinking.
Well, overthinking is probably correctable on the second try. And having work experience under his belt may help now too.
The firms I've worked at have always given two tries before you're fired.
Two girls in my class failed the first time. They both had multiple Ivy League degrees but were complete stress cases during the exam, which I think was the problem. They both passed the second time, but it was definitely held against them for years.
One of our first years failed this year. I'm not surprised. He's an idiot from a third tier school (where he did not do particularly well). We never should have hired him, being that his credentials are not good, there were typos all over his resume, and all he talked about in his interview was doing music law and then working at a music company (we do NOTHING at all related to that at my firm). And he's awful at his job. But his uncle is like third in command at a Fortune 10 company that is our biggest client, so he was hired and has plenty of job security. Yay nepotism!
Yay Mr. Duck!! Is there stats out there about passing? When my cousins (now ex) H passed the bar she made it out to be a big deal that he did it on his first try and was bragging about how almost no one passes the first time. It is sounding like this was a heap of shit.
To this day, I still don't personally know anybody who didn't pass.
No. He said he didn't finish his essay portion one day but I have been told (and believe from personal experience) that they will toss one session's score if it departs from the rest of your scores so I don't think that is really what happened.
V- the perception that attaches is what scares me. I feel like it becomes self fulfilling. I am really glad that they got to have a month to at least make an impression without this influencing it, but it is just such a hurdle to have to cross.
Yay Mr. Duck!! Is there stats out there about passing? When my cousins (now ex) H passed the bar she made it out to be a big deal that he did it on his first try and was bragging about how almost no one passes the first time. It is sounding like this was a heap of shit.
Less than 50% pass first try in California, but this is hugely state specific. It's also school specific. I think the top 4 schools in the state all have a 95% or higher pass rate. (As do out of state schools in the top 12). In turn, certain firms hire primarily from those schools, amd so the pass rate at those firms is also close to 100%. But there are other schools where only 10% pass, so from those schools, yeah, it is an accomplishment.
Yay Mr. Duck!! Is there stats out there about passing? When my cousins (now ex) H passed the bar she made it out to be a big deal that he did it on his first try and was bragging about how almost no one passes the first time. It is sounding like this was a heap of shit.
Less than 50% pass first try in California, but this is hugely state specific. It's also school specific. I think the top 4 schools in the state all have a 95% or higher pass rate. (As do out of state schools in the top 12). In turn, certain firms hire primarily from those schools, amd so the pass rate at those firms is also close to 100%. But there are other schools where only 10% pass, so from those schools, yeah, it is an accomplishment.
I had so much trouble getting my parents to understand this. They were like "JFK Jr. failed five times! Worst case scenario you take it again!" I was like "practically no one from my school/firm fails so my career will be in immediate jeopardy."
That said, my colleague who did fail passed the second time and stayed at the firm in the interim, but I'm sure she was dying inside.