Okay, I don't like @songforyou, @246baje, and LoveTrains fighting over MM and MMM.
My home is broken and dysfunctional!
I'm not trying to fight or invalidate her feelings. Her feelings are her feelings. I am sorry that she feels that way. I can just say that I'm sorry that she feels that she was driven out because I don't think that was how it was intended. And I wasn't even behind the sub-boards. I am just a sad person watching MM implode.
MM SUCKS! DON'T GO BACK THERE! STAY HERE WITH US!!! We can talk budgeting if you want, which is like my least favorite thing ever (I'm a spender, my husband is a saver). But I'll do it if you stay.
What is the deal with the outright quickness to negate something as racist when [reasonable] people of color confirm that it is?
If someone of a different race or culture said XYZ is insensitive/racist, I'd listen, absorb, and not participate in that behavior and call it out when I see it.
What is with this fight to the damn death about proving something that you have little to no -- most times no -- experience with?
My theory is this, but I don't know if it is directly answering your question. White people don't believe / want to believe in white privilege because they feel it takes something away from their efforts, accomplishments, hard work, etc. (Even though it doesn't-- it just means that they had one less obstacle to overcome, or obstacles of a different sort. But anyway.)
And so in order to follow the cotton thing, or the costume debacle on MM, you'd have to believe in white privilege, in the idea that cotton is just cotton for you but holds a different meaning to a person of color. And since they don't believe in the former, they cannot get their minds around the latter. From a distance, it does seem silly. It's cotton, dude, cotton. Some of us have experienced that it's not just cotton, while others of us just understand the subtext of it. But to admit that the subtext exists, they'd have to admit white privilege exists. Same thing with "my grandpa came from Italy with nothing but he became a __________!!!!!! Why can't black people?!"
Also, most people are probably not racists at heart. They want people of color to excel, succeed, thrive, etc. They do believe in equality. And so it feels accusing to them to learn that they participate in a racist system, that they may be guilty of or complicit with racism they never intended. And they get defensive because they don't hold racist beliefs, and so it shuts down from there.
Well I don't know where this thread went but I asked my Mexican H and he said racist because it plays on negative stereotypes about what it means to be Mexican.
I'm too distracted by the one voter who says they got a $500k+ bonus. That has to be someone fucking with us right?
Sometimes I am tempted to click on the outlandish choice just to mess with people. So that means someone else has the same thought, but they actually follow through.
I will say that pamela is the same pamela who "grew up poor" even though her family owned their own business and employed several employees. So pamela will firmly be on my list of "people who don't get it".
Post by NewOrleans on Dec 18, 2014 14:31:13 GMT -5
Omg. People have gone to that board to ask advice for finances. lol. Those posters shouldn't be giving advice on shapes and primary colors, let alone budgets. I am aghast.
I will say that pamela is the same pamela who "grew up poor" even though her family owned their own business and employed several employees. So pamela will firmly be on my list of "people who don't get it".
Pamela's husband is maybe 1/8 or 1/4 Mexican (if I recall). So if she's arguing "it's not racist because my husband is Mexican...." It's like me trying to represent the German immigrant experience or whatever because I'm 1/4 German.