Post by cookiemdough on Dec 22, 2014 7:10:34 GMT -5
This can't be for real right?
From Think Progress
Rudy Giuliani: 2 NYC Cops Were Killed Because Obama Told Everyone To ‘Hate The Police’ BY IGOR VOLSKY POSTED ON DECEMBER 21, 2014
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani attributed the execution-style assassination of two police officers on Saturday afternoon to the protests that broke out across the city following a grand jury’s failure to indict a police officer for killing Eric Garner.
“We’ve had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police,” Giuliani said during an appearance on Fox News on Sunday. “The protests are being embraced, the protests are being encouraged. The protests, even the ones that don’t lead to violence, a lot of them lead to violence, all of them lead to a conclusion. The police are bad, the police are racist. That is completely wrong.”
Giuliani then argued that most of the city’s violence is centered in the black community through so-called “black against black” crime and heralded the police for keeping African Americans safe. “Actually, the people who do the most for the black community in America are the police,” he explained.
Since Saturday’s killing a host of conservatives — including former New York Gov. George Pataki (R) — blamed DeBlasio or Attorney General Eric Holder for inciting the kind of anti-police fervor that led 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley to ambush and murder two officers, shooting them point-blank in the head as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn before killing himself at a nearby subway platform.
Brinsley, allegedly wrote in an Instagram post, “I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours…Let’s Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice #RIPErivGardner #RIPMikeBrown.” He concluded with, “This May Be My Final Post.”
Immediately following the killing, Pat Lynch, the president of the largest police union in New York City, said there was “blood on many hands tonight” including “those that incited violence on the street under the guise of protest” and starting with “the office of the mayor.”
Giuliani rejected that characterization saying, “I think it goes to far to blame the mayor for the murder or to ask for the mayor’s resignation. But I don’t think it goes too far to say that the mayor did not properly police the protests.” He blamed DeBlasio for allowing the protesters to “take over the streets” and “hurt police officers” and pledged that he would have confined the protesters to certain areas had he been mayor.
The former mayor also criticized President Barack Obama, Holder, and Al Sharpton for addressing the underlining racial tensions behind the failure to indict the white police officers who killed Garner and Mike Brown in Ferguson. “They have created an atmosphere of severe, strong, anti-police hatred in certain communities. For that, they should be ashamed of themselves,” he said.
also, why does no one want to talk about the attempted murder of the ex-girlfriend? What's one more dead black person or dead woman, right? There are REAL issues to talk about like how Obama killed these 2 cops.
also, why does no one want to talk about the attempted murder of the ex-girlfriend? What's one more dead black or dead woman, right? There are REAL issues to talk about like how Obama killed these 2 cops.
This is pissing me off almost as much as the fact that this asshole has completely derailed the bigger conversation. This was an act of domestic violence and exactly no one is discussing it. Not only is this lack of reaction typical misogynistic entitlement, which is reason enough to rage, it is a crucial bit of information that upends the argument that he was simply a copkiller representing the will of the protesters.
But I assume this means we can blame Bill O'Reilly for his 28 episodes of invective against "Tiller the Baby Killer" that eventually ended in the murder of Wichita abortion provider George Tiller by anti-abortion activist Scott Roeder. We can blame conservative talk radio for fueling the anti-government hysteria that led Timothy McVeigh to bomb a federal building in Oklahoma City. We can blame the relentless xenophobia of Fox News for the bombing of an Islamic Center in Joplin or the massacre of Sikh worshippers by a white supremacist in Wisconsin. We can blame the NRA for the mass shootings in Newtown and Aurora. We can blame Republicans for stoking the anti-IRS paranoia that prompted Andrew Joseph Stack to crash a private plane into an IRS building in Austin, killing two people. We can blame the Christian Right for the anti-gay paranoia that led the Westboro Baptist Church to picket the funeral of Matthew Snyder, a US Marine killed in Iraq, with signs that carried their signature "God Hates Fags" slogan. We can blame Sean Hannity for his repeated support of Cliven Bundy's "range war" against the BLM, which eventually motivated Jerad and Amanda Miller to kill five people in Las Vegas after participating in the Bundy standoff and declaring, "If they're going to come bring violence to us, well, if that's the language they want to speak, we'll learn it." And, of course, we can blame Rudy Giuliani and the entire conservative movement for their virtually unanimous indifference to the state-sanctioned police killings of black suspects over minor offenses in Ferguson and Staten Island, which apparently motivated the murder of the New York police officers on Saturday.
Or wait. Maybe we can't do any of those things. Maybe lots of people support lots of things, and we can't twist that generalized support into blame for maniacs who decide to take up arms for their own demented reasons. Maybe that's a better idea after all.
Post by jeaniebueller on Dec 22, 2014 8:50:22 GMT -5
He is such a stupid asshole. I ditto tres, was he this crazy when he was mayor? I admittedly know very little about him other than that he had the stupidest campaign strategy ever when he ran for president during the primary.
And certainly no one wants to talk about gun violence.
Right? It's right there again. The nexus of guns and mental illness. But let's do nothing about either and blame Black people who don't want to die for hoodies, cigs, and skittles.
Post by Velar Fricative on Dec 22, 2014 9:20:41 GMT -5
Sadly, I had forgotten about those two killers in Las Vegas inspired by Cliven Bundy. But no, Cliven Bundy was just a good American defending his rights.
Giuliani has always been fairly moderate on the big social issues for an R but I feel like he's always been quick to fall back on 9/11 and be really over the top hawkish on terrorism, especially to sort of make up for his more moderate stances. I've only ever seen him be really nuts over terrorism up until recently, but I've also only been exposed to him on a national level and only heard him talk about things like terrorism. Based on his comments, it wouldn't surprise me if he's always been this way, but I just never heard it with regards to these issues. I think police related positions typically are more locally driven.
I guess the question is has he always been what exactly. He's always been racist as far as letting police know they could do any damn thing in Black neighborhoods