Okay, yes, Kristen is crazy, but so is Ariana

[honeychai]

Does she really believe Tom?
Denial is no joke

[Jalapeñomel]

I think she really wants to.

[honeychai]

I kind of want to, too.
Hahaha

But he's so guilty

[Jalapeñomel]

Those women are desperate, which is so sad, because they can do a thousand times better.

[candyland]

Jan 26, 2015 22:13:59 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Those women are desperate, which is so sad, because they can do a thousand times better.

Agree! He is not that cute or smart.

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I think Ariana in now way shape or form believes Tom. I think she is dating him to be on the show, and she refuses to lose her composurw about it and be a shrew, like the rest of the cast. Which basically means she needs Tom to stay on the show. Talk about a self-perpetuating cycle.

[JamaicanPineapple]

I really want to believe Tom, too. I don't know why. Kristen is such a psychopath. Like certifiably nutso. And James is crazy for putting up with all of this BS. Talk about dating someone to get on a show.

I didn't see the end either. But I hate how Lisa gets so involved, in more than just a boss way, trying to sway things in a way. I really like Lisa but that bothers me.

[jojoandleo]

Jan 27, 2015 9:06:28 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't know if Ariana believes him or not; but I think she's unwilling to let Kristen dictate the path of her relationship, which I get.
I fell asleep before the end of the show -- does Lisa fire Kristen? BECAUSE SHE SHOULD. I can't even believe Kristen's behavior.

That will be next episode. Lisa sat down and talked to Tom and Arianna about walking out, but not Kristen in this episode.

Here is the thing, even if Kristen is right, which I think she is, THIS WILL NOT CLEAR HER NAME! She still looks psycho! Who cares to the point of going to their place of employment with the supposed mistress? Like, you already know your job is hanging by a string. Maybe save the showdown for someplace you DO NOT WORK. And yelling at your BOSS!?! Holy shit! I would have been fired by said boss on the spot. I am guess she can't because of the show? But seriously?

Oh, and if I was Schaena, I would so be pissed that this girl I supported ambushed my best friend at work. 

I don't even care at this point if Tom cheated. If it is the big climax I will be like... so? Who cares? 

James...boy is dumb. Although, I think the only reason he is dating Kristen is to be on the show, so...

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But she won't leave. Because. . . The show. It's no accident all the soap opera stars are going to the reality shows that replaced them. The shows aren't "scripted" but they are certainly directed and managed. Which is why I can't take any of it seriously. Lisa's job is to inflame things, not be an objective owner. IRL, she wouldn't know most of these people. She's the owner not the manager. So this isn't true to life in any way.

[cleo29]

Jan 27, 2015 9:37:54 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Also, omg, AnneMarie, Botox much???

H thought she was 40 lol

[obladi]

Jan 26, 2015 23:55:07 GMT -5 elle said:

I think Ariana in now way shape or form believes Tom. I think she is dating him to be on the show, and she refuses to lose her composurw about it and be a shrew, like the rest of the cast. Which basically means she needs Tom to stay on the show. Talk about a self-perpetuating cycle.

Was it you who has been to Sur and saw Tom and Jax? What about the other cast? 

[cleo29]

Jan 27, 2015 10:30:42 GMT -5 jojoandleo said:

Jan 27, 2015 9:06:28 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't know if Ariana believes him or not; but I think she's unwilling to let Kristen dictate the path of her relationship, which I get.
I fell asleep before the end of the show -- does Lisa fire Kristen? BECAUSE SHE SHOULD. I can't even believe Kristen's behavior.

That will be next episode. Lisa sat down and talked to Tom and Arianna about walking out, but not Kristen in this episode.

Here is the thing, even if Kristen is right, which I think she is, THIS WILL NOT CLEAR HER NAME! She still looks psycho! Who cares to the point of going to their place of employment with the supposed mistress? Like, you already know your job is hanging by a string. Maybe save the showdown for someplace you DO NOT WORK. And yelling at your BOSS!?! Holy shit! I would have been fired by said boss on the spot. I am guess she can't because of the show? But seriously?

Oh, and if I was Schaena, I would so be pissed that this girl I supported ambushed my best friend at work. 

I don't even care at this point if Tom cheated. If it is the big climax I will be like... so? Who cares? 

James...boy is dumb. Although, I think the only reason he is dating Kristen is to be on the show, so...

What I don't get about Kristen's logic is that she is a cheater too. How does this clear anything up. It doesn't. She is nuts and needs to be fired. Also, she is Tom's stalker. lol

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Jan 27, 2015 11:52:58 GMT -5 obladi said:

Jan 26, 2015 23:55:07 GMT -5 elle said:

I think Ariana in now way shape or form believes Tom. I think she is dating him to be on the show, and she refuses to lose her composurw about it and be a shrew, like the rest of the cast. Which basically means she needs Tom to stay on the show. Talk about a self-perpetuating cycle.

Was it you who has been to Sur and saw Tom and Jax? What about the other cast? 

I've been to sur a few times. I've never seen Staci but I've seen everyone else. I have a friend who knows Lisa too. Jax and Peter are just as skeezy IRL. If I were single I would be throwing myself at Tom though. Just my type. Don't even care that he's a cheating cheater.

[DeeDee]

I couldn't concentrate on anything during this episode because I was to distracted by the ridiculous white hat that James wore in every scene. Not a good look.

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Am I the only one who doesn't think any of the cast is "that" attractive?

[lulu13]

Considering how early on in their relationship the alleged cheating happened maybe Ariana just isn't that upset about it. This happened a year ago and maybe she's fine with just moving on.

ETA well nevermind. I just got to the part where Ariana said she believes and trusts Tom. Still even if he did cheat I think Ariana would forgive him.

[lulu13]

Jan 27, 2015 12:17:51 GMT -5 @susan3589 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't think any of the cast is "that" attractive?

I think Schwartz and Ariana are attractive but not so much the rest of them. Stassi is not attractive at all.

[cleo29]

Jan 27, 2015 12:26:59 GMT -5 lulu13 said:

Considering how early on in their relationship the alleged cheating happened maybe Ariana just isn't that upset about it. This happened a year ago and maybe she's fine with just moving on.

ETA well nevermind. I just got to the part where Ariana said she believes and trusts Tom. Still even if he did cheat I think Ariana would forgive him.

I wonder if they dealt with it in private and decided to take this stance in public.

[pantsoffdanceoff]

Jan 27, 2015 9:06:28 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't know if Ariana believes him or not; but I think she's unwilling to let Kristen dictate the path of her relationship, which I get.
I fell asleep before the end of the show -- does Lisa fire Kristen? BECAUSE SHE SHOULD. I can't even believe Kristen's behavior.

I fully believe that Ariana knows that he cheated (and maybe he admitted it) but she is unwilling to give Kristen the satisfaction of breaking them up or let her see them fighting.

[Jalapeñomel]

Jan 27, 2015 12:28:15 GMT -5 lulu13 said:

Jan 27, 2015 12:17:51 GMT -5 @susan3589 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't think any of the cast is "that" attractive?

I think Schwartz and Ariana are attractive but not so much the rest of them. Stassi is not attractive at all.

She has the most amazing body though.  She is such a huge bitch, and I think that skews the way she looks to me. 

[jillybean222]

Jan 27, 2015 12:08:25 GMT -5 DeeDee said:

I couldn't concentrate on anything during this episode because I was to distracted by the ridiculous white hat that James wore in every scene. Not a good look.

yeah, what was with that hat?!?!!

[jojoandleo]

Jan 27, 2015 11:57:07 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Jan 27, 2015 11:48:57 GMT -5 elle said:

But she won't leave. Because. . . The show. It's no accident all the soap opera stars are going to the reality shows that replaced them. The shows aren't "scripted" but they are certainly directed and managed. Which is why I can't take any of it seriously. Lisa's job is to inflame things, not be an objective owner. IRL, she wouldn't know most of these people. She's the owner not the manager. So this isn't true to life in any way.

Well, of course not.  Anyone who actually believes this is reality needs a sixth-grade education.  But it's fun!

WHAT!?! IT'S NOT 100% REAL!?! J/K. But it is more fun to PRETEND it is real. 

I do remember waiting tables and everyone dated everyone and being really close and having major drama. Not to the extent on this show, but we had some crazy shit go down. It makes me reminisce.  Granted, we were all 19-22, not freaking 30 something acting that way.

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I just cannot believe they are all in their 30's.


LOL.

[runforrest]

I'm watching it now, and OMG Kristen is 10000% unhinged.

Girl is delusional and needs to get over it already. I do not understand a) how she can't see how batshit she is; and b) how James is even with her, since obviously she is obsessed with Tom.

Fame-hungry or not, these people are idiots.

Yet I still watch, haha.

[spellingbea]

Jan 27, 2015 12:51:50 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Jan 27, 2015 12:28:15 GMT -5 lulu13 said:

I think Schwartz and Ariana are attractive but not so much the rest of them. Stassi is not attractive at all.

She has the most amazing body though.  She is such a huge bitch, and I think that skews the way she looks to me. 

I kind of love Stassi, and I think she's really pretty. I don't like how mean she's been to Katie about the FL trip, but other than that I think she's hilariously bitchy and fun to watch.

The boys are all gross to me.

[sherbanator]

I do think Tom cheated, he is sugh a weak little boy. I can also understand why Arianna doesn't want to give Kristin the satisfaction of breaking them up but since Tom did cheat on Kristin with her she should not be surprised.

That being said Kristen is a fucking crazy person. I really hope she is mortified watching that.

[lulu13]

Jan 27, 2015 14:39:08 GMT -5 spellingbea said:

Jan 27, 2015 12:51:50 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

She has the most amazing body though.  She is such a huge bitch, and I think that skews the way she looks to me. 

I kind of love Stassi, and I think she's really pretty. I don't like how mean she's been to Katie about the FL trip, but other than that I think she's hilariously bitchy and fun to watch.

The boys are all gross to me.

She's definitely bitchy and it was one thing in the beginning but now it just seems desperate.

[frannyr]

I think Katie, Kristen and Stassi are pretty girls and both Toms are very cute. But Jax looks what my friend and I used to call cro-mag man (something about the shape of his face is cro-magnon looking to me).

Schena and Ariana are not attractive.