The master Anti-Vax response thread

[saz]

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[malibu]

www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/indoorair/voc/formaldehyde.htm

Worried about formaldehyde? Better stop using makeup, move into a house that has zero wood products in it, anything with adhesives in it, etc. Oh, and if you own any synthetic fabric clothing, better throw those away too, it might be in there as well.

[msmerymac]

Here are some responses I've seen over the past few days if anyone wants to work on these:

- If your kid is vaccinated, then you should have nothing to worry about!
- You don't want your kid to be put at risk of a disease, but you're asking me to put my kid at risk from death or vaccine injury! (I saw someone claim kids have died from vaccines.)
- Herd immunity is a myth.
- Measles has evolved and the MMR doesn't even prevent infection of the current strain.
- Unvaccinated kids are healthy because of organic food and hand washing.
- My kid didn't respond well to vaccines and I wouldn't want anyone else to go through that.
- Slippery slope to government telling us what other parenting decisions are not up to us.

[heyjude]

"You are a bad mom if you vaccinate."

That's a new one!

[downtoearth]

You could just hit them with odd random disease successes and such... like that massive MMR vaccine amounts can cure blood cancer...

"ROCHESTER, Minn. - Mayo Clinic researchers announced a landmark study where a massive dose of the measles vaccine, enough to inoculate 10 million people, wiped out a Minnesota woman's incurable blood cancer.

The Mayo Clinic conducted the clinical trial last year using virotherapy. The method discovered the measles virus wiped out multiple myeloma cancer calls. Researchers engineered the measles virus (MV-NIS) in a single intravenous dose, making it selectively toxic to cancer cells...."
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/05/15/measles-vaccine-cancer-mayo-clinic/9115363/

Or Thank a vaccine for helping someone be able to breastfeed (since a lot of the anti-vax people happen to be pretty AP and pro-breastfeeding)...

"Duke researchers release HIV vaccine breakthrough
After being disregarded for more than two decades, pediatric HIV vaccines may reduce the risk of transmitting HIV to infants through breastfeeding...."
www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2014/09/15/duke-researchers-release-hiv-vaccine-breakthrough#.VMvStk0cRt8

Or point them toward Pinterst to make their own vaccines since they know best.  It can't be harder than going gluten free or sticking to Paleo.

"Pharmaceutical Industry Reeling As More Moms Making Vaccines At Home

A wave of concern reportedly spread through the pharmaceutical industry this week as several major drug companies reported a dip in quarterly earnings, with experts placing the blame largely on the growing trend of mothers choosing to make vaccines for their children at home.

According to medical industry observers, the homemade inoculations, which are often assembled from scratch in kitchens or atop home craft tables, have become increasingly popular due to their low cost, their do-it-yourself appeal, and rising parental unease over the quality and origins of the ingredients in mass-produced immunizations...."
www.theonion.com/articles/pharmaceutical-industry-reeling-as-more-moms-makin,36028/

[dirtyred]

Jan 30, 2015 13:30:06 GMT -5 malibu said:

www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/indoorair/voc/formaldehyde.htm

Worried about formaldehyde? Better stop using makeup, move into a house that has zero wood products in it, anything with adhesives in it, etc. Oh, and if you own any synthetic fabric clothing, better throw those away too, it might be in there as well.

And don't eat bananas, grapes, cauliflower, dried mushrooms, and pears.


www.cfs.gov.hk/english/whatsnew/whatsnew_fa/files/formaldehyde.pdf

[meshaliuknits]

Jan 30, 2015 13:32:04 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Here are some responses I've seen over the past few days if anyone wants to work on these:

- If your kid is vaccinated, then you should have nothing to worry about!
- You don't want your kid to be put at risk of a disease, but you're asking me to put my kid at risk from death or vaccine injury! (I saw someone claim kids have died from vaccines.)
- Herd immunity is a myth.
- Measles has evolved and the MMR doesn't even prevent infection of the current strain.
- Unvaccinated kids are healthy because of organic food and hand washing.
- My kid didn't respond well to vaccines and I wouldn't want anyone else to go through that.
- Slippery slope to government telling us what other parenting decisions are not up to us.

[Alyssa]

Borrowed from ML...

[downtoearth]

Jan 30, 2015 13:32:04 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Here are some responses I've seen over the past few days if anyone wants to work on these:

- If your kid is vaccinated, then you should have nothing to worry about!
- You don't want your kid to be put at risk of a disease, but you're asking me to put my kid at risk from death or vaccine injury! (I saw someone claim kids have died from vaccines.)
- Herd immunity is a myth.
- Measles has evolved and the MMR doesn't even prevent infection of the current strain.
- Unvaccinated kids are healthy because of organic food and hand washing.
- My kid didn't respond well to vaccines and I wouldn't want anyone else to go through that.
- Slippery slope to government telling us what other parenting decisions are not up to us.

Are these people you actually see and like IRL? Honestly, if they were someone I might just unfriend anyway, I think I'd try to inundate them with articles.

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[msmerymac]

Jan 30, 2015 14:51:22 GMT -5 downtoearth said:

Jan 30, 2015 13:32:04 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Here are some responses I've seen over the past few days if anyone wants to work on these:

- If your kid is vaccinated, then you should have nothing to worry about!
- You don't want your kid to be put at risk of a disease, but you're asking me to put my kid at risk from death or vaccine injury! (I saw someone claim kids have died from vaccines.)
- Herd immunity is a myth.
- Measles has evolved and the MMR doesn't even prevent infection of the current strain.
- Unvaccinated kids are healthy because of organic food and hand washing.
- My kid didn't respond well to vaccines and I wouldn't want anyone else to go through that.
- Slippery slope to government telling us what other parenting decisions are not up to us.

Are these people you actually see and like IRL? Honestly, if they were someone I might just unfriend anyway, I think I'd try to inundate them with articles.

No, mostly in the comments of news sites or other things I follow.

[SallyJ]

This came up in my feed from a very young, naive 'friend'. I haven't responded yet because I need to find some studies to point her to. On my phone so cant c&p. vaccineimpact.com/2015/the-truth-about-measles-the-mainstream-media-is-suppressing/

[NewOrleans]

We did this. Heh. pandce.proboards.com/thread/314007/megan-heimers-lies-falsifications-inaccuracies

pandce.proboards.com/thread/406962/aaurhg-megan-heimer-infographic

[bigoleworm]

Our pediatrician has the best story ever for his patients that don't want to vax. He has family in his practice that has a child, child got all vaxes on schedule, was diagnosed autistic at age 5. A few years later, they are on the anti-vax train because vaxes caused their first child's autism. Second child recieves no vaxes. Diagnosed at 4 autistic. Family realizes it's not the vaxes that caused the autism. Second child then gets vaxes.
Clearly not a happy story, but a powerful one about vaccines and autism.

[Jermys]

Jan 31, 2015 13:43:44 GMT -5 bigoleworm said:

Our pediatrician has the best story ever for his patients that don't want to vax. He has family in his practice that has a child, child got all vaxes on schedule, was diagnosed autistic at age 5. A few years later, they are on the anti-vax train because vaxes caused their first child's autism. Second child recieves no vaxes. Diagnosed at 4 autistic. Family realizes it's not the vaxes that caused the autism. Second child then gets vaxes.
Clearly not a happy story, but a powerful one about vaccines and autism.

This happened with our neighbors, except they have five kids, only be of whom isn't on the spectrum.  He has brain cancer instead.