"You just need to be more sex positive."

[tacosforlife]

Said by H tonight. 

We we were discussing how many times we've called 911, which of course triggered a mention of the street masturbator. 

[StrawberryBlondie]

is this a good place to drop in that mil used to have a neighbor that had an annual summertime nookie-on-the-deck ritual? An upstairs neighbor... And sil has a neighbor that's a morning deck masturbator?

[tacosforlife]

Feb 28, 2015 11:11:24 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

Feb 27, 2015 21:45:19 GMT -5 tacosforlife said:

Said by H tonight. 

We we were discussing how many times we've called 911, which of course triggered a mention of the street masturbator. 

How many times have you called 911?

Also, remind me of the street masturbator story!

Um. Since I moved into the District in December 2012, yesterday was the 4th. There was the guy I thought was breaking into a car but who actually locked his keys in his car. There was the street masturbator. Then there was a loud party - so that one wasn't a big deal but it was like 1am and I was having none of it. Yesterday someone was attacked across the street from our house - we think it was DV because the woman got away and then the guy just sat in his car right outside her house. So 3 times for crime/suspected crime and once because KIDS THESE DAYS!

The masturbator was that I was walking to the drug store. I saw a guy in the next block who seemed like he was weaving as he walked. I got an off feeling about him but told myself not to be paranoid. As I walked down the street, the guy disappeared into a yard so I thought he'd just gotten to his house and went home. NOPE. When I passed where he's disappeared, he was in the yard, facing the sidewalk, pants around his ankles, just masturbating.

A friend of mine in Berkeley (NOT ESF, for the record!) was surprised I called the cops. I was like, "Dude. You have been in Berkeley way too long. In the normal universe, we call the cops when there is a dude jacking off in the middle of someone's yard." FFS.

[tacosforlife]

LOL!

[pinkdutchtulips]

Feb 28, 2015 11:20:34 GMT -5 tacosforlife said:

Feb 28, 2015 11:11:24 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

How many times have you called 911?

Also, remind me of the street masturbator story!

Um. Since I moved into the District in December 2012, yesterday was the 4th. There was the guy I thought was breaking into a car but who actually locked his keys in his car. There was the street masturbator. Then there was a loud party - so that one wasn't a big deal but it was like 1am and I was having none of it. Yesterday someone was attacked across the street from our house - we think it was DV because the woman got away and then the guy just sat in his car right outside her house. So 3 times for crime/suspected crime and once because KIDS THESE DAYS!

The masturbator was that I was walking to the drug store. I saw a guy in the next block who seemed like he was weaving as he walked. I got an off feeling about him but told myself not to be paranoid. As I walked down the street, the guy disappeared into a yard so I thought he'd just gotten to his house and went home. NOPE. When I passed where he's disappeared, he was in the yard, facing the sidewalk, pants around his ankles, just masturbating.

A friend of mine in Berkeley (NOT ESF, for the record!) was surprised I called the cops. I was like, "Dude. You have been in Berkeley way too long. In the normal universe, we call the cops when there is a dude jacking off in the middle of someone's yard." FFS.

I'm on my phone so excuse the massive quote inclusion but I've lived a stones throw from Berkeley for the last 25 years and OMG NO !! I'd call the cops if I had seen what you did in a nanosecond !

[ESF]

LOL

I probably would call the cops on a street masturbator.

But now that I know he might be diddling himself on the street because he's sharing a bedroom with his baby sister, I'd probably feel bad doing it.

[tacosforlife]

This thread turned into more than I ever could have imagined it would.

And here I just wanted to let y'all know that my H made the sex positive joke without me ever having told him about the CEP fiasco around that.

[ajj]

Feb 28, 2015 12:39:27 GMT -5 ESF said:

LOL

I probably would call the cops on a street masturbator.

But now that I know he might be diddling himself on the street because he's sharing a bedroom with his baby sister, I'd probably feel bad doing it.

OMG! You win the internet today. /dead

[tres3]

I notified the MBTA cops when a guy was jacking off on the redline...

[meshaliuknits]

Feb 28, 2015 12:39:27 GMT -5 ESF said:

LOL

I probably would call the cops on a street masturbator.

You know, I'd just pull a grandpa Simpson & walk back through the door. Does that mean I've been here too long?

Sent from my EVO

[sandsonik]

Feb 28, 2015 11:20:34 GMT -5 tacosforlife said:

Feb 28, 2015 11:11:24 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

How many times have you called 911?

Also, remind me of the street masturbator story!

Um. Since I moved into the District in December 2012, yesterday was the 4th. There was the guy I thought was breaking into a car but who actually locked his keys in his car. There was the street masturbator. Then there was a loud party - so that one wasn't a big deal but it was like 1am and I was having none of it. Yesterday someone was attacked across the street from our house - we think it was DV because the woman got away and then the guy just sat in his car right outside her house. So 3 times for crime/suspected crime and once because KIDS THESE DAYS!

The masturbator was that I was walking to the drug store. I saw a guy in the next block who seemed like he was weaving as he walked. I got an off feeling about him but told myself not to be paranoid. As I walked down the street, the guy disappeared into a yard so I thought he'd just gotten to his house and went home. NOPE. When I passed where he's disappeared, he was in the yard, facing the sidewalk, pants around his ankles, just masturbating.

A friend of mine in Berkeley (NOT ESF, for the record!) was surprised I called the cops. I was like, "Dude. You have been in Berkeley way too long. In the normal universe, we call the cops when there is a dude jacking off in the middle of someone's yard." FFS.

Whoa, please tell me you didn't call 911 for a loud party.  911 is for emergencies only.  I think the police need to do a better job of getting that message out and putting their regular phone number out there with the public for non-emergencies.

I have my own street masturbator story. I was once tossed out of the city of Providence because of a street masturbator.  I was 21 or 22 and was going to a gay club with my friend and my sister.  We scored a parking spot on the street nearly in front of the place.  We didn't get out of the car though.  There was a guy called 'Stormin' Norman' masturbating on the sidewalk.  My friend kind of knew him; Norman was retarded and hung around downtown all the time. He yelled at him to stop and when he didn't, we just sat in the car, waiting him out.  We were talking, touching up our hairspray (it was the 80s!) or whatever. 

Next think we know, there's a cop on horseback next to the car rapping on the window.  He wants to know what we're doing there.  We start to explain how the guy on the sidewalk....only the guy is gone now.    Either we'd been so involved in our conversation, we hadn't noticed him leave, or else the sound of hooves made him scram.  Policeman doesn't appear to believe our story - who makes something like that up?  Policeman checks IDs and shines his light around the car looking for drugs or alcohol.  Then he tells us "get out of here.  Leave the city."

And for some reason we complied.  At this point, I can't imagine why.  Except my sister and friend were actually underage for the club, so maybe we felt we didn't have grounds for an argument there.  But before we left the city entirely, we ran into someone with car trouble parked on a narrow road.  My friend gave them a jump, and we got on the highway to go home....only to have his hood fly up while we were driving full speed and on a dangerous curve!  I guess the guy who got the jump didn't close the hood well, and somehow the wind caught it and now we're careening down the highway completely blind!  We managed to get to the breakdown lane without being killed and couldn't close the hood because it was now out of line.  We tied it down with some bungee cords and got the hell out of Dodge before the cop that kicked us out found we were still in Providence, LOL.  So it ended up being an expensive night for my friend, even though we didn't get to go out.  But at least we all now have a story of how we were once so badass that we were banned from Providence!

[tacosforlife]

sandsonik, there is no mon emergency number. Well, there is. It connects you to 911. Not my fault the city has decided to make it almost impossible for a while resident to contact the police outside of 911.

[jln]

Um, sandsonik, maybe a thesaurus could help you pick a different word instead of using the "R" word.

[sandsonik]

Mar 1, 2015 15:00:28 GMT -5 jln said:

Um, sandsonik, maybe a thesaurus could help you pick a different word instead of using the "R" word.

I wasn't using the word as an insult. That would be offensive.

Why, what word are you saying I should have used?

[sandsonik]

Mar 1, 2015 10:29:39 GMT -5 @juno said:

Mar 1, 2015 8:50:28 GMT -5 tacosforlife said:

sandsonik, there is no mon emergency number. Well, there is. It connects you to 911. Not my fault the city has decided to make it almost impossible for a while resident to contact the police outside of 911.

Our city doesn't answer the non-emergency number after hours. So I would have gone with 911 too if it was loud enough.

Wow, I'd be pissed at a police department that wouldn't answer the phone! Sorry, I'd never heard of such a thing - I've only heard threats about criminal penalties for calling 911 with non-emergency matters.

[jln]

Mar 1, 2015 19:40:16 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

Mar 1, 2015 15:00:28 GMT -5 jln said:

Um, sandsonik, maybe a thesaurus could help you pick a different word instead of using the "R" word.

I wasn't using the word as an insult. That would be offensive.

Why, what word are you saying I should have used?

www.r-word.org/r-word-effects-of-the-word.aspx

[sandsonik]

Mar 2, 2015 19:18:12 GMT -5 jln said:

Mar 1, 2015 19:40:16 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

I wasn't using the word as an insult. That would be offensive.

Why, what word are you saying I should have used?

www.r-word.org/r-word-effects-of-the-word.aspx

That article makes my point for me.  It's wrong to use the word to be hurtful, or as a joke.  I did neither.  

Is it offensive to call a gay person gay?  No. However, it's highly offensive to use the phrase "gay" as a derogatory term, as an insult.  It puts a negative spin on the correct meaning of the word and implies that to be gay is a bad thing.  You've seen those commercials, right?

It's the same with retarded.  If you use "retarded"  incorrectly as an insult, then shame on you.  You're making a statement that being retarded is "bad".

That's not how I use it and I never have.  My aunt was retarded, so I have only ever used that word in relation to the condition and never once in my life as a slur.  I can't abide when people do that.  I don't allow people to use the N word in my presence and I don't allow them to use "gay" or "retarded" as an insult either.

[jln]

Mar 2, 2015 21:53:53 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

Mar 2, 2015 19:18:12 GMT -5 jln said:

www.r-word.org/r-word-effects-of-the-word.aspx

That article makes my point for me.  It's wrong to use the word to be hurtful, or as a joke.  I did neither.  

Is it offensive to call a gay person gay?  No. However, it's highly offensive to use the phrase "gay" as a derogatory term, as an insult.  It puts a negative spin on the correct meaning of the word and implies that to be gay is a bad thing.  You've seen those commercials, right?

It's the same with retarded.  If you use "retarded"  incorrectly as an insult, then shame on you.  You're making a statement that being retarded is "bad".

That's not how I use it and I never have.  My aunt was retarded, so I have only ever used that word in relation to the condition and never once in my life as a slur.  I can't abide when people do that.  I don't allow people to use the N word in my presence and I don't allow them to use "gay" or "retarded" as an insult either.

Well, if quotes from mentally handicapped people asking to not be called that doesn't change your mind, nothing will I guess.

[NewOrleans]

Mar 2, 2015 23:07:31 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

Mar 2, 2015 22:02:48 GMT -5 jln said:

Well, if quotes from mentally handicapped people asking to not be called that doesn't change your mind, nothing will I guess.

I think sandsonik is referring to the fact that people with intellectual disabilities are still classified technically as "mentally retarded" on official legal forms, for example. If their IQs do in fact meet the level, they will be classified that way. 

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa%27s_Law

Also, "retarded" is not people-first language.

But I've seen how it goes when trying to inform sandos about nuances of language and/or symbolism, so...

[NewOrleans]

Feb 28, 2015 12:39:27 GMT -5 ESF said:

But now that I know he might be diddling himself on the street because he's sharing a bedroom with his baby sister, I'd probably feel bad doing it.

[sandsonik]

Mar 2, 2015 22:02:48 GMT -5 jln said:

Mar 2, 2015 21:53:53 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

That article makes my point for me.  It's wrong to use the word to be hurtful, or as a joke.  I did neither.  

Is it offensive to call a gay person gay?  No. However, it's highly offensive to use the phrase "gay" as a derogatory term, as an insult.  It puts a negative spin on the correct meaning of the word and implies that to be gay is a bad thing.  You've seen those commercials, right?

It's the same with retarded.  If you use "retarded"  incorrectly as an insult, then shame on you.  You're making a statement that being retarded is "bad".

That's not how I use it and I never have.  My aunt was retarded, so I have only ever used that word in relation to the condition and never once in my life as a slur.  I can't abide when people do that.  I don't allow people to use the N word in my presence and I don't allow them to use "gay" or "retarded" as an insult either.

Well, if quotes from mentally handicapped people asking to not be called that doesn't change your mind, nothing will I guess.

the article doesn't apply here.

I was not using it as a joke. I was not excluding anyone.  I was not scoffing at anyone.  I don't use the word as a casual descriptor of anything flawed, negative or "dumb", pardon the phrase.  I was not using the word in any of the ways protested in that article.  Would never dream of it.

[sandsonik]

Mar 2, 2015 23:15:35 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Mar 2, 2015 23:07:31 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

I think sandsonik is referring to the fact that people with intellectual disabilities are still classified technically as "mentally retarded" on official legal forms, for example. If their IQs do in fact meet the level, they will be classified that way. 

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa%27s_Law

Also, "retarded" is not people-first language.

But I've seen how it goes when trying to inform sandos about nuances of language and/or symbolism, so...

The nuance being that it was ok until one day in 2009, when someone decided it wasn't, and now the wrong way to use the word wins and becomes more commonplace?

I will gladly take that pledge to "end the demeaning use of the r word".  It's an easy pledge, since I've never used the word to demean anyone. 

 I won't use retarded as an insult and using it correctly is my protest against those who will not. 'Mentally retarded' is no different or worse than 'mentally disabled' 

Why not get rid of gay next? Some jerks are using it wrong.  We should probably ban Portuguese next because some asshats insist on calling people Portagees.

But I'd rather deal with the asshats directly instead of letting them push everybody around, even to the point that we change our language because of them.

[NewOrleans]

Sandos. Retarded is not a medical term. It doesn't exist. See the DSM and the WHO's ICD. It is also not a legal designation, either. You are using a term that does not exist.

(Why am I trying to teach your disrespectful ass anything? @smorriso)

[ESF]

Well this thread took a weird turn.

[LoveTrains]

Even the state of RI changed the name of the state agency recently to take out retarded.

www.mhrh.ri.gov

[NewOrleans]

Mar 3, 2015 0:22:52 GMT -5 ESF said:

Well this thread took a weird turn.

[heyjude]

Mar 2, 2015 23:37:04 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

Mar 2, 2015 23:15:35 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa%27s_Law

Also, "retarded" is not people-first language.

But I've seen how it goes when trying to inform sandos about nuances of language and/or symbolism, so...

The nuance being that it was ok until one day in 2009, when someone decided it wasn't, and now the wrong way to use the word wins and becomes more commonplace?

I will gladly take that pledge to "end the demeaning use of the r word".  It's an easy pledge, since I've never used the word to demean anyone. 

 I won't use retarded as an insult and using it correctly is my protest against those who will not. 'Mentally retarded' is no different or worse than 'mentally disabled' 

Why not get rid of gay next? Some jerks are using it wrong.  We should probably ban Portuguese next because some asshats insist on calling people Portagees.

But I'd rather deal with the asshats directly instead of letting them push everybody around, even to the point that we change our language because of them.

You probably refer to unauthorized immigrants as "illegal aliens" too? "Because it's in code. And that's what they are"?

[sandsonik]

Mar 3, 2015 8:22:12 GMT -5 heyjude said:

Mar 2, 2015 23:37:04 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

The nuance being that it was ok until one day in 2009, when someone decided it wasn't, and now the wrong way to use the word wins and becomes more commonplace?

I will gladly take that pledge to "end the demeaning use of the r word".  It's an easy pledge, since I've never used the word to demean anyone. 

 I won't use retarded as an insult and using it correctly is my protest against those who will not. 'Mentally retarded' is no different or worse than 'mentally disabled' 

Why not get rid of gay next? Some jerks are using it wrong.  We should probably ban Portuguese next because some asshats insist on calling people Portagees.

But I'd rather deal with the asshats directly instead of letting them push everybody around, even to the point that we change our language because of them.

You probably refer to unauthorized immigrants as "illegal aliens" too? "Because it's in code. And that's what they are"?

No, but I'm guessing you call people retards.  Since we're guessing and all.

[heyjude]

Mar 3, 2015 12:43:52 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

Mar 3, 2015 8:22:12 GMT -5 heyjude said:

You probably refer to unauthorized immigrants as "illegal aliens" too? "Because it's in code. And that's what they are"?

No, but I'm guessing you call people retards.  Since we're guessing and all.

You are using the same rationale for using the word "retard" to describe someone with Down's syndrome as people who use "illegal alien" to describe immigrants without papers. In both cases, the terminology is wrong not because it's inaccurate but because it's hurtful.

[sandsonik]

Mar 2, 2015 23:44:00 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Sandos. Retarded is not a medical term. It doesn't exist. See the DSM and the WHO's ICD. It is also not a legal designation, either. You are using a term that does not exist.

(Why am I trying to teach your disrespectful ass anything? @smorriso)

Retarded is a real word.  It means, roughly, delayed or impeded, challenged.

I'm not sure how I was disrespectful to you?  I don't recall talking to you before, but I apologize if I said something disrespectful.