That doesn't make your husband a responsible gun owner.
How does it not? Do you know how many safety classes he has attended? Do you know how often he goes to the range? Do you know how he stores them? Do you know how he carries it and where he carries it (and where he does not)?
omfg OP. I know you aren't enjoying the pile-on, but that's just how shocking and dangerous that incident is. I don't think I would even be considering articles or convincing - there would be no guns in our house, ever ever ever again, after that. Or there would be no future children, because there would be no more marriage. That's how strongly I would feel about it after such an incident.
And really, if the guns are in a safe, to which only you have the combo, and the ammo is stored elsewhere, how likely is your DH to be able to arm himself in time to defend against an intruder? Especially if you're awoken from a sound sleep. Really really unlikely. Like so unlikely that it's pointless to have guns for that reason.
You are absolutely right. The guns are useless for protection since they are store in safe separate from the ammo. The guns are going before I have kids.
I'd have a serious problem staying married to a man who kept a loaded gun in the nightstand and grabbed it in his sleep.
If you don't have a problem with that, but want to get rid of the guns prior to TTC, then just tell your H that you are uncomfortable with the guns in the house. Say that it's not safe to have kids with the guns in the house and they have to go. If he doesn't understand how important this is, then you will have another decision to make.
They are in a locked safe that only you have a key to. You don't shoot them, you don't hunt, he hasn't even seen them since the sleep walking incident. Just get rid of them. Done.
Safes are great and all but if he threatened her or manipulated her to get the key then they are pointless. My exh said a safe wouldn't matter to him since he would find a way... Key locks are easy to pick.Â
I have no idea why this needs to be a secret, but I'm highly entertaining myself with the possibilities of where he might...carry it.
I heard people carry them between their butt cheeks. They cut a hole in their back pocket so they can get to it faster. At least that's what Air Marshall's do on flights to Vegas.
I wouldn't waste any time trying to convince him to get rid of the guns or spewing statistics at him. They are obviously not useful as protection given how they are currently stored. You don't use them for anything else.
You have access to the guns and he doesn't. Get rid of them when he's at work. If he's mad about that, oh well....He almost shot you in the middle of the fucking night while you were sleeping. You win the argument.
Post by speckledfrog on Mar 3, 2015 14:43:32 GMT -5
This went very quickly from MH almost shot me in his sleep to our guns are totally safely secured with a key that only I have access to and then to the guns are totally going!
This went very quickly from MH almost shot me in his sleep to our guns are totally safely secured with a key that only I have access to and then to the guns are totally going!
littlemisssunshine, come back to this post. I really want to know how he justifies keeping guns in the house when he sleepwalks with them.
They went into the safe that night and have not been taken out since. Ammo is stored separately.
He wouldn't be able to get into the safe while asleep as it requires a key where only I know where it is, so I am comfortable with that arrangement. However having kids in the house changes that for me. Since we don't go to the shooting range or hunt, having guns seems pointless.
I was hoping for some concrete quotable facts, statistics or articles. People calling my H an idiot isn't helping me.
If only you know where the key is, what the heck is the point in keeping the guns? What if you're incapacitated or on a trip or can't relay the information to him in a supposed emergency? This whole thing is stupid.
This went very quickly from MH almost shot me in his sleep, to our guns are totally safely secured with a key that only I have access to, to guns are totally going!
I said in the OP that the guns went into the safe that night he grabbed it in his sleep. That happened several years ago. After reading everyone's responses and realizing that the argument of having them for protection was moot since they were stored away, I have come to my senses. Is that so hard to believe?
Post by OrangeBanana on Mar 3, 2015 14:55:35 GMT -5
Those guns needed to go a long time ago. I'm all for people safely owning guns but your husband is not one of those people. This is an accident waiting to happen as it is right now with no children.
We have several guns stored safely in our house including a hand gun, but I would not be able to sleep at night knowing there is a loaded one just feet from you next to a man that has gotten it out while sleep walking.
Did you really expect this thread to turn out differently, OP, after dropping the bomb that your H cocked a gun IN HIS SLEEP? There are some things ML doesn't just gloss over. Loaded weapons kept within reach of someone who messes with them in his sleep is one of those things. Also, I knew tillie would show up with the whole 'hooray for guns' schtick.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Mar 3, 2015 15:00:27 GMT -5
It irritates me to no end when people say they have a gun for protection. I cannot think of one single case where having a gun in your nightstand or on your person has actually served to protect the owner.
I can, however, think of countless cases where children or other innocent people were shot and killed.
And the second my spouse picked up and cocked the gun in his nightstand (asleep or not) would be the second before I decided to leave him.
OP, there are plenty of statistics out there on this. Do not even get pregnant until the guns are gone and you are in full agreement they are not coming back.
If he is not proficient in handling the gun(s) and has already had an incident with inappropriate behavior, he needs to get rid of them. I am not against having guns in the house with kids, but these are huge red flags that indicate to me that they do not belong in your home.
Post by downtoearth on Mar 3, 2015 15:17:34 GMT -5
Nope, I would draw the line and probably go to a counselor about this issue if it was too contentious to discuss with DH. If he is this fearful and insecure about his community, then he needs to come to terms with that - kids or no kids that doesn't work for me as a reason to have guns.