Lucy let's talk about real food

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and about how odd it is that a group of women who are all rah rah feminism are pooh poohing the very inventions and conventions that have helped to break away the drudgery and mires of feeding your family and do other things.

Not that the level at which we're taking in this crap is good for us. Just that store bought bread isn't the damned devil and that making so much of your food by hand isn't necessarily a good thing.

Or am I very far off?

Let's talk.

[jaylea]

HS, I have missed hearing your thoughts on this. Darn new job!

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I'm just baffled by the worship of the process of making homemade bread. Yes, homemade bread is faboo and I will nom nom on that shit all day. But do they really not understand why we've turned to processed foods, especially a staple like bread?

and homemade ketchup, guys. For real lololol

[pantsparty]

Some people just have too much time on their hands.

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Aug 14, 2012 14:33:07 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I grow organic vegetables because I'm empowered by choices! Giggle!

bwahahaha!!

[bab]

LMAO at this entire thread!

[cleo29]

Aug 14, 2012 14:38:42 GMT -5 frkls said:

god, i love frozen pizza

Freschetta is our favorite or Stoffers French bread pizza.

[scotty]

You're one of the most articulate people that I've come across. That is all. That's not sarcasm, btw. Not this particular post, maybe, but you have a big vocabulary.

Were you an English major? Creative Writing?

I am random today.

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I just can't get past the fact that literally, we owe a debt to the most basic of advances in processed food. We can quibble all day long about what should be in these foods, how to choose healthier foods, etc. But the idea that processing food in and of itself is a bad thing makes me just a wee bit ragey.

I think it was probably the part about how long fresh, homemade bread lasts compared to store bought bread that really made me heated.

As much as I dally in the housewife thing, even on the vintage side, I am forever grateful for the advances that have allowed me to putter around the internet and garden as a hobby instead of being tied to the process of putting food on my family's table every day.

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Aug 14, 2012 14:44:03 GMT -5 scotty said:

You're one of the most articulate people that I've come across. That is all. That's not sarcasm, btw. Not this particular post, maybe, but you have a big vocabulary.

Were you an English major? Creative Writing?

I am random today.

Newp, I am a teen mother and college drop out who has been divorced and should never, ever give parenting advice. (TIC)

In all seriousness, I was an English major for all of five minutes, not long enough to count and at a Christian college to boot. I just enjoy writing and reading, and talking smack.

I was homeschooled though.

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Aug 14, 2012 14:46:50 GMT -5 toledo said:

Aug 14, 2012 14:45:14 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

As much as I dally in the housewife thing, even on the vintage side, I am forever grateful for the advances that have allowed me to putter around the internet and garden as a hobby instead of being tied to the process of putting food on my family's table every day.

You don't consider that a form of worship?

?

[scotty]

Aug 14, 2012 14:50:04 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I also suspect that the people who are the most indignant about organic foods and quinoa and shit like that? Would kill someone for a Twinkie half the time.

F*ckin' amen.

[underwaterrhymes]

Aug 14, 2012 14:49:09 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Sometimes I feel like people are playing Little House on the Prairie as grownups. Me included. The emphasis in the last few years on vintage, crafts, gardening, etc. It always reminds me of Laura Ingalls Wilder getting cornhusk dolls on her birthday. lol.

I like to blame it on the Pioneer Woman.

[eightangryreindeer]

I get this but I don't get why people have to be so extreme about it.

You know, you do your best.

When you buy/use convenience products you try to look for the healthier stuff out there.

You buy store bread without HFCS.

It's not that hard. I hate the whole martyrish element to it.

You better fucking believe we have store-bought ketchup in my house, we're civilized, advanced people!

[scotty]

Oh yeah, I ripped on you once for your personal life, before I realized that you have some big brains.

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Aug 14, 2012 14:49:09 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Sometimes I feel like people are playing Little House on the Prairie as grownups. Me included. The emphasis in the last few years on vintage, crafts, gardening, etc. It always reminds me of Laura Ingalls Wilder getting cornhusk dolls on her birthday. lol.

I agree with this. I sometimes wonder if I'm not being ridiculous.

For my part, I know some of my interest stems from a lack of some order in my home when I was growing up. I'm not trying to talk smack about my mother. She did what she could and loved us all plenty. But I missed those elements of family and predictability, of things you pass onto your children.

But I worry occasionally if I'm not swinging the pendulum in the other direction.

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Aug 14, 2012 14:50:04 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I also suspect that the people who are the most indignant about organic foods and quinoa and shit like that? Would kill someone for a Twinkie half the time.

Explain quinoa to me. I wanted to try it but when I looked at the grocery shelf, the barley was right next to it and half the price so barley it was.

And barley is damned tasty. Why don't we eat this shit more often?

[broc]

I am so freaking pissed you waited til my kid woke up to start this thread, guy.

[speckledfrog]

Aug 14, 2012 14:53:55 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

Aug 14, 2012 14:50:04 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I also suspect that the people who are the most indignant about organic foods and quinoa and shit like that? Would kill someone for a Twinkie half the time.

Explain quinoa to me. I wanted to try it but when I looked at the grocery shelf, the barley was right next to it and half the price so barley it was.

And barley is damned tasty. Why don't we eat this shit more often?

It's toot-rific.

[hubes]

Lemme throw this in here.

I love cooking and baking. Love it.

Because I'm a control freak. I love the idea that I can take basic ingredients and mix them and bake them into something that can sustain my family.

Maybe there is something in that? And in all the mommy wars?

[fuckstick]

Aug 14, 2012 14:50:04 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I also suspect that the people who are the most indignant about organic foods and quinoa and shit like that? Would kill someone for a Twinkie half the time.

*spits oreo crumbs everywhere* AMEN!

I like baking bread just as much as the next my-inner-child-is-Laura Ingalls Wilder suburbanite, but only if the bread machine does the kneading for me cause otherwise my arms get too tired to give a decent handy before bed.

Stouffer's French Bread pizza 4 lyfe.

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i adore this amazing cold kale salad that i found once and now i can't remember the recipe (some sort of lemony dressing and shaved parm?). but otherwise, kale is shit.

anyway, i just don't know why everyone has to talk about it so damn much. yes, unwrapping everything you eat is probably a sign that you could be doing better in the fresh food department. but you can do that and also stop navel-gazing and obsessing about how you're making a statement about your place in the world while doing so.

[sonrisa]

Aug 14, 2012 14:32:17 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

I'm just baffled by the worship of the process of making homemade bread. Yes, homemade bread is faboo and I will nom nom on that shit all day. But do they really not understand why we've turned to processed foods, especially a staple like bread?

and homemade ketchup, guys. For real lololol

Well, it isn't like one can go and buy the bread Whole Foods bakes (since you have to boycott them) so what other choice does one have?

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Quinoa lovers are assholes; that stuff tastes like shit and cous cous has the same amount of protein and tastes 1000x better.

Perfect protein WHATEVER.

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Aug 14, 2012 14:56:10 GMT -5 hubes said:

Lemme throw this in here.

I love cooking and baking. Love it.

Because I'm a control freak. I love the idea that I can take basic ingredients and mix them and bake them into something that can sustain my family.

Maybe there is something in that? And in all the mommy wars?

I do enjoy me some baking and homemade stuff. Hence my adoration for Sunday dinner.

I guess it's the difference between a hobby/something that gives you pleasure and a crusade to convert yourself, your family, and the world around you to making this a daily undertaking.

[eightangryreindeer]

Aug 14, 2012 14:59:21 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Control freak is part of it. But there's a larger part of the mommy wars that has to do with juuuust how seriously you take your job as a mother.

"Ohhhhh, little Johnny's eating plain white bread? Tsk. Little Harper only gets seven-grain organic mung-bean bread. There are studies linking mung bean consumption to higher IQs."

What you feed your kid? Is a direct reflection of your abilities as a parent. You could be super hands-on and awesome and like a human Disney park; none of it matters in the eyes of your fellow mothers if you don't also breastfeed until the child is 2 and feed it nothing but organic beets.

Weeeel, you're being hyperbolic but I do think it's unfortunate if a parent is feeding bad food choices all the time. Obviously you don't have to be milking your own goat but if you can put down the Wonderbread and learn to read nutrition labels I think that's good for everyone.

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Aug 14, 2012 15:00:40 GMT -5 Que? said:

Aug 14, 2012 14:49:09 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Sometimes I feel like people are playing Little House on the Prairie as grownups. Me included. The emphasis in the last few years on vintage, crafts, gardening, etc. It always reminds me of Laura Ingalls Wilder getting cornhusk dolls on her birthday. lol.

It's totally like this, only living simply is a luxury that most people can't afford, whether it's due to time or money.

it's just so . . . flashy.

laura ingalls had a cornhusk doll because that's what her family could afford. not because ma ingalls was trying to demonstrate for her children the wealth imbalance in the country/back to land values/the importance of recycling.

i know the unexamined life isn't worth living and all that, but i'm never going to live as if each action and choice i've ever made or will make is a political statement about my deeply-held values.

[lazyphoque]

Aug 14, 2012 14:56:01 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Also H makes fun of me because I put wheat germ on vanilla ice cream. It's good!

I am suspicious, but you did say that the kale chips were gross, so that makes me think you honestly like it so it may be worth trying.

I use quinoa in situations where I used to use couscous - I want some grain-like stuff to put something else on top of that only takes 5 minutes to cook. It is unpleasant if you overcook it or use too much water (if you get the Trader Joes stuff, only use 3/4 of the water it calls for), but otherwise fine. Leftovers make a nice addition to stuff like a cucumber and tomato salad.

And barley tossed with olives, feta, roasted red peppers, parsley and white wine vinaigrette is an ungodly good salad right out of the refrigerator.

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Apparently, agrarian societies are the way to go.

I wish I could comprehend what fuels the mommy wars. I know I'm guilty of it from time to time. But I think it's about more than mommying.

[scotty]

Aug 14, 2012 15:01:18 GMT -5 fields said:

Quinoa lovers are assholes; that stuff tastes like shit and cous cous has the same amount of protein and tastes 1000x better.

Perfect protein WHATEVER.

It's pretty hard on my stomach, and I'm not sure why.