Post by Kcthepouchh8r on May 19, 2015 7:53:45 GMT -5
Your preschool age kids dress themselves independently for school (obviously barring any fine motor delays), right?
I was whining about how distracted dd gets to her bus aide/driver this morning. I mentioned that I make her dress herself and that we have to go hide in the bathroom so she doesn't get side tracked by toys. They were like wait, what? You know she's only four right? As if expecting her to do that independently without assistance was somehow age inappropriate.
Dd2 will be 4 in August and needs minimal help still. I make her do what I know she's capable and am reasonable about the stuff that's still hard for her - mainly getting her underwear right side out and a bit getting things over her head. If she can physically do it, I don't know why you would do it?
Dd1, just turned 4, can't or won't dress herself. I mean, she can't put her shirt/dress on or off without help. Pants she can do but I have to lay them out the right way for her. I am concerned about it a little based on what I've read before on this board. But I figure as long as she figures it out by kindergarten or 1st grade it's fine.
And she can't/won't do socks but can take them off. Underwear she can do. Shoes, only her crocs and boots by herself.
The only thing I absolutly help with are getting tshirts over her head. Other than that she can do it and I don't adjust. If her socks are backwards oh well. I do help if she's half asleep, but even then she's pretty compliant.
DD has been dressing herself since she was 3. I sometimes need to help getting things over her head. She will actually lay the clothes I toss on her bed out on the floor like a body (socks included) and then get dressed. DD insisted on doing it herself. She has always had that independent "I do it" personality. My niece is 3.5 and cannot do anything for herself, she just doesn't want to so my SIL does everything for her. I asked her to put her shoes on when I had her for the day when we were in FL last month and she looked at me and cried and begged me to help her. I don't really think it matters that much at this age. I wouldn't even think about it until kindergarten.
Yes, he has been dressing g himself for a while. Pull on shorts sometimes end up backwards and I have found him more then once trying to put on his 2 yr old brother's clothes but he does it. Oh and I feel you on the distraction!
G just turned 4 amd has been able to dress/undress himself for a while. He asks for help sometimes, but can do it all except button in shirts and fastening his jeans. U think its definitely age appropriate for them to be able to do that.
I don't think its necessarily a bad sign if they can't do it completely yet, especially if they haven't been taught, but its not inappropriate
I cannot answer this question because fine motor delays. I do think, however, that it is perfectly appropriate for a NT preschooler to at least participate in dressing themselves to some degree.
Dd1, just turned 4, can't or won't dress herself. I mean, she can't put her shirt/dress on or off without help. Pants she can do but I have to lay them out the right way for her. I am concerned about it a little based on what I've read before on this board. But I figure as long as she figures it out by kindergarten or 1st grade it's fine.
And she can't/won't do socks but can take them off. Underwear she can do. Shoes, only her crocs and boots by herself.
My husband is the one that taught G "tricks" to put his clothes on. Things like: hold your shirt upside-down facing you. And lay your pants out with the tag on the bottom. It helped him to be able to do it himself. But, he is really into being a big kid, so that made him want to do it himself too
Barring ignoring any fine motor delays, this is a pick your battles for me for sure.
Both of my kids can, and do, underdress themselves and no one really taught them. DS1 CAN dress himself, but it can be like a 30 minutes process. If I am trying to get out the door, I make him start, dress DS2, and then finish him up. I give no fucks -- I am not battling a four year old on this shit, especially when he doesn't battles me doing it.
If I made him do it himself it looks like this -- immediately strip down, play with some cars, pull one leg on shorts, remove shorts and sit on potty for no apparent reason, put shorts back on, ask for ipad, start doing a puzzle, put shirt over head. Yeah, i can't care that much.
Oh, DD definitely gets distracted. What kid doesn't? I try to plan for that and most mornings there is time for it. I send them up to get dressed with 30-45 minutes until we have to go. I try to allot for the distraction and goofing off.
RE: not worrying about it until kindergarten, I do think it's something a NT no delays, etc. kid should be doing before they go to kinder.
My DD could mostly dress herself at 4 and usually did unless we were in a hurry and she was moving extra slow. She was a bit older before she could button her jeans and put on her socks (she's very particular about the seam across the toe being just right, though.) She was doing those things by Kindergarten.
Post by thecheshirekat on May 19, 2015 9:15:51 GMT -5
My kid decided a few months back that he wanted to pick out his own clothes and dress himself, so he does. In the morning, he wakes up, takes off his pajamas and pull-up, picks out and puts on his underwear and clothes, and then comes in to snuggle. He has some fine and gross motor delays so I never would have expected that he would be able to do this as independently as he does, but it's worked out. Some of his outfits are pretty awful, and he nearly always wears athletic shorts, but I'll take it .
Dd1, just turned 4, can't or won't dress herself. I mean, she can't put her shirt/dress on or off without help. Pants she can do but I have to lay them out the right way for her. I am concerned about it a little based on what I've read before on this board. But I figure as long as she figures it out by kindergarten or 1st grade it's fine.
And she can't/won't do socks but can take them off. Underwear she can do. Shoes, only her crocs and boots by herself.
DS is 5 and has a lot of trouble with socks. He was pushing 5 before he could totally dress himself. He still needs help getting things straight and on properly.
Barring ignoring any fine motor delays, this is a pick your battles for me for sure.
Both of my kids can, and do, underdress themselves and no one really taught them. Â DS1 CAN dress himself, but it can be like a 30 minutes process. Â If I am trying to get out the door, I make him start, dress DS2, and then finish him up. Â I give no fucks -- I am not battling a four year old on this shit, especially when he doesn't battles me doing it.
If I made him do it himself it looks like this -- immediately strip down, play with some cars, pull one leg on shorts, remove shorts and sit on potty for no apparent reason, put shorts back on, ask for ipad, start doing a puzzle, put shirt over head. Â Yeah, i can't care that much.
I had this attitude with ds. It was fine when he had afternoon pre k and last school year when we didn't need to be in until 9. This school year we are out the door by 8 so I wanted him to do it independently in a timely manner (which I felt was a reasonable request for a nearly five year old). It was such a battle of whining I can't do it, come help me which was so freaking annoying. I finally had to bribe him with 10 minutes of iPad time if he did it by himself with enough time to spare. As a result I encouraged it far earlier with dd.
Barring ignoring any fine motor delays, this is a pick your battles for me for sure.
Both of my kids can, and do, underdress themselves and no one really taught them. DS1 CAN dress himself, but it can be like a 30 minutes process. If I am trying to get out the door, I make him start, dress DS2, and then finish him up. I give no fucks -- I am not battling a four year old on this shit, especially when he doesn't battles me doing it.
If I made him do it himself it looks like this -- immediately strip down, play with some cars, pull one leg on shorts, remove shorts and sit on potty for no apparent reason, put shorts back on, ask for ipad, start doing a puzzle, put shirt over head. Yeah, i can't care that much.
I had this attitude with ds. It was fine when he had afternoon pre k and last school year when we didn't need to be in until 9. This school year we are out the door by 8 so I wanted him to do it independently in a timely manner (which I felt was a reasonable request for a nearly five year old). It was such a battle of whining I can't do it, come help me which was so freaking annoying. I finally had to bribe him with 10 minutes of iPad time if he did it by himself with enough time to spare. As a result I encouraged it far earlier with dd.
I cannot answer this question because fine motor delays. I do think, however, that it is perfectly appropriate for a NT preschooler to at least participate in dressing themselves to some degree.
The funny part is I was talking about a non NT preschooler and they were referencing typical ones. And really I wouldn't even be the least bit concerned if a nt child wouldn't/couldn't at her age (unless there was other evidence of fine motor challenges) but I was blown away that they thought it was something I should still be doing for her.
Post by mamaalysson on May 19, 2015 9:45:40 GMT -5
DD has been dressing herself for a while...since before 3, maybe? She has always had very definite opinions on what she would wear, and between dress-up clothes and her changing moods, changes her clothes about a billion times a day. Hell to the no am I helping her every time she wants a new twirly skirt. Sometimes the zippers on jackets trip her up, but otherwise I can't think of anything else she needs help with anymore. She will be 5 in a month.
ETA: To be fair, she wears all cotton, elastic waist stuff - dresses with leggings, skirts and tees with leggings...not a lot of zipper or buttons to mess with.
DS just turned four and I help sometimes to speed things along but he can do most on his own. He always needs help with socks and certain shoes. He's become a pro at zippers in the past few weeks.
DD (4) can physically dress herself. Ive started letting her pick her clothes most days and make alternative suggestions to make sure her outfit is weather appropriate and isn't a complete colorful mess. The only thing she can't do it tie her shoes which we are working on.
DS (20 months) can undress himself but can't get stuff on. He tries to put his shirt on his legs so I think it will be a while for him to get it.
This is where DS is at, too. He got so mad the other day because he really wanted to wear his sister's Curious George shirt...as pants. He was full on pissed that it wouldn't work and that I wouldn't let him wear his shirt/pants.
Post by sparkythelawyer on May 19, 2015 12:04:43 GMT -5
If the homework was assigned it should have been completed, period. It foes not matter if the class thought it was stupid. I would have no patience for that as a teacher. And they're old enough to get the f they deserve
DS1 and DS2 can dress themselves and have been doing it for a while. I help them get their clothes out and then they get dressed all by themselves. They wear button up shirts on the regular and my just turned 4 year old DS2 has even been able to button up his own shirts for quite a while. The only thing either of them need help with is tying their shoes.
DS3 (almost 2) needs help putting a shirt over his head and/or buttoning his pants but can actually put the shirt on and get his shoes on by himself.
I don't think it's odd that you have her do it herself at that age but I also wouldn't find it weird if she couldn't do it herself.
Our 3 years olds dress themselves for preschool. Sometimes they need help with socks? But OH the distractions :0P I don't think it's odd if a 4 year old CANT do it all yet...but if your kid can, they generally should IMO.
Post by expectantsteelerfan on May 19, 2015 14:26:25 GMT -5
DD just recently mastered this. She still asks for help with dresses for some reason, but shorts/shirts/undies/socks/skirts etc. are all fine. And tights I definitely do. She's one to let people do things for her as long as they will, so I wouldn't be surprised if she's on the later end of the spectrum, but I'd say 4 is probably still normal for working on this depending on your routine.
DD (4) can physically dress herself. Ive started letting her pick her clothes most days and make alternative suggestions to make sure her outfit is weather appropriate and isn't a complete colorful mess. The only thing she can't do it tie her shoes which we are working on.
DS (20 months) can undress himself but can't get stuff on. He tries to put his shirt on his legs so I think it will be a while for him to get it.
No. He is not 20 months already. Where is the time going??