Post by barefootcontessa on May 21, 2015 21:29:13 GMT -5
For people who are so worried about maintaining sexual purity that they teach their kids to only side hug, they have grossly understated the significance of all this, even if Josh was "only" 15. A mistake is I smoked a cigarette or I stole a candy bar -- not that I fondled MULTIPLE younger sisters MULTIPLE times while they slept. It does not matter how old he was -- that is predatory behavior and he should have been removed from the home immediately. I am not saying that should have disowned him or anything BUT for the girls' well-being he should have moved in with his grandparents or somewhere without children. I feel so sorry for those girls. He stole their innocence -- that can never been restored no matter how "sorry" Josh is. Why is there no mention of them?
For people who are so worried about maintaining sexual purity that they teach their kids to only side hug, they have grossly understated the significance of all this, even if Josh was "only" 15. A mistake is I smoked a cigarette or I stole a candy bar -- not that I fondled MULTIPLE younger sisters MULTIPLE times while they slept. It does not matter how old he was -- that is predatory behavior and he should have been removed from the home immediately. I am not saying that should have disowned him or anything BUT for the girls' well-being he should have moved in with his grandparents or somewhere without children. I feel so sorry for those girls. He stole their innocence -- that can never been restored no matter how "sorry" Josh is. Why is there no mention of them?
They clearly chose to protect him instead of the girls.
I wonder if this is why he chose to not kiss Anna before their wedding. Maybe it was his way of thinking he's making up for his sins?
That is pretty common in the homeschooling circle they run in. My cousin who was involved in it and met his wife through it didn't kiss until his wedding either.
Is jjwritergirl still around? Obviously I know she very likely had no idea about all of this when they had dinner but just curious what the sentiment in the community is. Guessing in general people in that community will come out in support of Josh.
What? She had dinner with the Duggars or just Josh Duggar?
I call bullshit on him confessing to Anna and her knowing before they got married.
Is jjwritergirl still around? Obviously I know she very likely had no idea about all of this when they had dinner but just curious what the sentiment in the community is. Guessing in general people in that community will come out in support of Josh.
What? She had dinner with the Duggars or just Josh Duggar?
I call bullshit on him confessing to Anna and her knowing before they got married.
I think the article said that he told her parents too. So if true, her parents blessed this marriage according to fundie protocol knowing that was the type of guy she was going to have a gaggle of children with. Disgusting.
Is jjwritergirl still around? Obviously I know she very likely had no idea about all of this when they had dinner but just curious what the sentiment in the community is. Guessing in general people in that community will come out in support of Josh.
What? She had dinner with the Duggars or just Josh Duggar?
I think she had a meal with Josh, Anna & their family after meeting them at church, but I don't think they were really friends beyond that.
What? She had dinner with the Duggars or just Josh Duggar?
I think she had a meal with Josh, Anna & their family after meeting them at church, but I don't think they were really friends beyond that.
Did she previously have a different user name, or did more than one GBCN/TN-er have a similar experience? I remember reading about someone doing this, but I don't remember it being jj's name. Of course, I don't remember what user name it was, so I could be completely wrong.
Post by Teachermama on May 22, 2015 10:45:43 GMT -5
Oh goodness! This is sick! My mom was just watching this show the other day. They housed foreign exchange students! This could have been them or his sisters! That is so sad!
Post by Teachermama on May 22, 2015 10:47:04 GMT -5
Oh goodness! This is sick! My mom was just watching this show the other day. They housed foreign exchange students! This could have been them or his sisters! That is so sad!
Oh goodness! This is sick! My mom was just watching this show the other day. They housed foreign exchange students! This could have been them or his sisters! That is so sad!
Is jjwritergirl still around? Obviously I know she very likely had no idea about all of this when they had dinner but just curious what the sentiment in the community is. Guessing in general people in that community will come out in support of Josh.
Still here reading, but haven't been posting because someone found this account.
Ever since the news broke I have been appalled and sickened that this not only occurred, but that it was covered up and hidden from the other families with daughters their family came into contact with. Perhaps he really did get back on the straight and narrow (no one can know but him), but the giant cover-up doesn't lend credibility to that defense. Allowing him back into the house in a leadership roll over the other children is equally horrifying from a parenting perspective. I can't imagine trusting him after that.
I have seen first hand how poorly sexual abuse was handled in conservative families growing up, and I don't believe this is the full story. When something bad happens to girls in a conservative family, the guilt is SO severe that even the bad things they will say out loud are often not the full truth. It wouldn't surprise me if the girls softened their stories in order to protect themselves in addition to their brother. I hope beyond all hope this is not the case.
To the people saying he didn't know it was wrong? Bullshit. They are called "private" parts for a reason. He knew they were private, hence the secrecy. Sexual curiosity in conservative families is a very real thing, but most people I knew growing up learned by sneaking our parents books to figure out what they were hiding.
For the record, we never spoke to them again after they were at our house, and for that I am grateful. We shared no common values and that was apparent to both parties. I am not a part of their community and I am taking my family a drastically different direction than my own upbringing.
To suggest that he didn't know it was wrong is laughable. If any topic is more highly discussed in terms of what is and isn't appropriate, I can't think of one.
I just made the mistake of looking at the comments on TLC's FB page re: suspending the show. People are awful. Like a woman who is all "It's not molestation when underage kids touch each other! Siblings do that all the time!" Um, no. No they don't. And of course she is holding a baby who I assume is her child in her profile pic. The fact that there are parents who find his conduct totally unproblematic is utterly horrifying to me.
Umm, this is disgusting. I don't get people. I hear a lot of people saying that since they were both teenagers they don't see the big deal. I really don't get that at all. I am 32, if another 32 year old person comes and gropes me or touches me in my sleep (or any other time) that is NOT okay. It doesn't make one lick of difference that we are the same age.
I just made the mistake of looking at the comments on TLC's FB page re: suspending the show. People are awful. Like a woman who is all "It's not molestation when underage kids touch each other! Siblings do that all the time!" Um, no. No they don't. And of course she is holding a baby who I assume is her child in her profile pic. The fact that there are parents who find his conduct totally unproblematic is utterly horrifying to me.
Umm, this is disgusting. I don't get people. I hear a lot of people saying that since they were both teenagers they don't see the big deal. I really don't get that at all. I am 32, if another 32 year old person comes and gropes me or touches me in my sleep (or any other time) that is NOT okay. It doesn't make one lick of difference that we are the same age.
But even if it did a teenager molesting a four year old would still be a whole different animal so the defense doesn't hold water any way you slice it.
Umm, this is disgusting. I don't get people. I hear a lot of people saying that since they were both teenagers they don't see the big deal. I really don't get that at all. I am 32, if another 32 year old person comes and gropes me or touches me in my sleep (or any other time) that is NOT okay. It doesn't make one lick of difference that we are the same age.
But even if it did a teenager molesting a four year old would still be a whole different animal so the defense doesn't hold water any way you slice it.
I just made the mistake of looking at the comments on TLC's FB page re: suspending the show. People are awful. Like a woman who is all "It's not molestation when underage kids touch each other! Siblings do that all the time!" Um, no. No they don't. And of course she is holding a baby who I assume is her child in her profile pic. The fact that there are parents who find his conduct totally unproblematic is utterly horrifying to me.
I just made the mistake of looking at the comments on TLC's FB page re: suspending the show. People are awful. Like a woman who is all "It's not molestation when underage kids touch each other! Siblings do that all the time!" Um, no. No they don't. And of course she is holding a baby who I assume is her child in her profile pic. The fact that there are parents who find his conduct totally unproblematic is utterly horrifying to me.
In what kind of Flowers in the Attic world is that normal for siblings to do??
Post by Willis Jackson on May 23, 2015 7:25:38 GMT -5
It really sickens me that not one single person involved in this mess has been seen by a qualified mental health professional. They just don't get it. This isn't something you can punish or prey away. This is a sickness. There are child molesters who agree to chemical castration because they realize it's something they can't control.
What does Grandma Duggar think? What did Grandpa Duggar think? I remember he was against them having so many children.
All I can think about is McKynzie. He molested his sister. What's going stop him from molesting his daughter?