Post by vadasultenfuss on May 26, 2015 18:42:35 GMT -5
Let me add that Disney is notorious for suing schools who use their movies in any way that violates free use, so I hope the (justified) public flogging of this school will also bring to light their misuse of film.
Let me add that Disney is notorious for suing schools who use their movies in any way that violates free use, so I hope the (justified) public flogging of this school will also bring to light their misuse of film.
You can get a license to show films in school like that. Our church has one and we're broke so it can't cost that much.
If I were a teacher there I don't think I could help but pay for the kids who couldn't go. Not that that solves anything and I'm sure it's not feasible for most of the teachers. It would just make me so mad.
If I were a teacher there I don't think I could help but pay for the kids who couldn't go. Not that that solves anything and I'm sure it's not feasible for most of the teachers. It would just make me so mad.
I can't lie. I'm looking at the list and in some of the classrooms, we're talking about 1-3 kids out of 28 or so. I feel some kind of way about a teacher who for the cost of $10-30, let a handful of her students be left out. What kind of shit is that? I bet s/he spent more money on crayons that year ffs!
If I were a teacher there I don't think I could help but pay for the kids who couldn't go. Not that that solves anything and I'm sure it's not feasible for most of the teachers. It would just make me so mad.
I can't lie. I'm looking at the list and in some of the classrooms, we're talking about 1-3 kids out of 28 or so. I feel some kind of way about a teacher who for the cost of $10-30, let a handful of her students be left out. What kind of shit is that? I bet s/he spent more money on crayons that year ffs!
I know that at least one school I taught at we were not allowed to directly pay for something like that for an individual student.
I can't lie. I'm looking at the list and in some of the classrooms, we're talking about 1-3 kids out of 28 or so. I feel some kind of way about a teacher who for the cost of $10-30, let a handful of her students be left out. What kind of shit is that? I bet s/he spent more money on crayons that year ffs!
I know that at least one school I taught at we were not allowed to directly pay for something like that for an individual student.
How would anyone have known? On the last day the money was due, you just drop another $10 on the pile and check off that the kid had paid, right?
Post by UMaineTeach on May 26, 2015 21:35:31 GMT -5
I've only got 11 kids. I'd pay the $110 for them all to go. I spent $130 at Scholastic today and the kids won't have as much fun with the books.
But this wouldn't happen, there would have been some kind of teacher riot during the staff meeting this fuckery was announced. No one would accuse our principal of being warm and fuzzy, but she wouldn't pull this and would shut down any PTO that said 'you can't play'
We are getting this for field day: www.icecreamforacause.com/ "At the event, one of our ice cream ambassadors will bring the ice cream truck to your stop, and hand out free ice cream in exchange for voluntary donations." Everyone will get an ice cream (well, I don't know about the milk/peanut allergy kids, I think there are Popsicles and none of the peanuts are life threatening unless ingested, we still have a 'peanut table')
I know that at least one school I taught at we were not allowed to directly pay for something like that for an individual student.
How would anyone have known? On the last day the money was due, you just drop another $10 on the pile and check off that the kid had paid, right?
Kids talk, it was often the same kids each year that didn't have $$ so other teachers would ask, the money also came with a slip that had to be signed by the parents and if they didn't send in the money, they wouldn't have sent in the form either.
Schools can be quite odd and cliche-y. Teachers were written up for this so you really had to weigh the choice. Once you were written up, you normally didn't get asked back the next year.
This just can't be true. We were definitely poor growing up, but there was never anything at school that really made us focus on it because...WHO DOES THAT?! Free lunch was the norm, so I can't imagine they would hold a school-wide function and exclude a whole population of students. I don't have a lot of feelings, but this is heartbreaking.
Post by polarbearfans on May 26, 2015 22:30:39 GMT -5
This makes me so mad. If the school wants to do a fundraiser it should be after school. Not during school where kids are excluded. $10 is a lot of money for some families, especially to spend on a 45-minute carnival type event.
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If I were a teacher there I don't think I could help but pay for the kids who couldn't go. Not that that solves anything and I'm sure it's not feasible for most of the teachers. It would just make me so mad.
I can't lie. I'm looking at the list and in some of the classrooms, we're talking about 1-3 kids out of 28 or so. I feel some kind of way about a teacher who for the cost of $10-30, let a handful of her students be left out. What kind of shit is that? I bet s/he spent more money on crayons that year ffs!
In my district teachers start at $35k. A teacher trying to support a family on that may be can't afford $30 even though it is heartbreaking.
I know of a teacher who complained that she was punished by administration for not attending PTO events even though it would have cost her $50 to attend. $50 may not seem like much but if you are only making $37k/yr and trying to support a family on that it sucks. Even in TN where COL is lower.
I can't lie. I'm looking at the list and in some of the classrooms, we're talking about 1-3 kids out of 28 or so. I feel some kind of way about a teacher who for the cost of $10-30, let a handful of her students be left out. What kind of shit is that? I bet s/he spent more money on crayons that year ffs!
In my district teachers start at $35k. A teacher trying to support a family on that may be can't afford $30 even though it is heartbreaking.
I know of a teacher who complained that she was punished by administration for not attending PTO events even though it would have cost her $50 to attend. $50 may not seem like much but if you are only making $37k/yr and trying to support a family on that it sucks. Even in TN where COL is lower.
Are you really explaining to me what it's like to live on a small salary?
Yesterday we shared the disheartening story of a principal at PS 120 in Queens, New York that made 100 children sit in a dark auditorium while their classmates frolicked just outside at a school carnival. All because they couldn't come up with the $10 carnival fee and despite the fact the school made an alleged $2,000-$3,000 profit on the carnival.
Well, the owner of the company that staged the carnival says he's not having it:
The carnival company hired for a Queens elementary school’s end-of-year festival that only paying students could attend is now offering to throw a free bash for the banned kids.
“I’m in the business for over 25 years and always put kids first,” said Gary Pincus, president of Send in the Clowns Entertainment. “Therefore, I would love to do a free carnival for all the kids that weren’t permitted to attend.”
Furthermore, he wants to hold it ASAP:
“If I had known that there were kids not allowed to attend the carnival, I would have paid for them,” he said, explaining that school carnivals are supposed to be for “all the children as a reward for getting through the school year.”
Let's hope Principal Joan Monroe takes him up and does the right thing for these kids. It won't be the same, but it'll be better than banishing and shaming them for not having $10.
Yesterday we shared the disheartening story of a principal at PS 120 in Queens, New York that made 100 children sit in a dark auditorium while their classmates frolicked just outside at a school carnival. All because they couldn't come up with the $10 carnival fee and despite the fact the school made an alleged $2,000-$3,000 profit on the carnival.
Well, the owner of the company that staged the carnival says he's not having it:
The carnival company hired for a Queens elementary school’s end-of-year festival that only paying students could attend is now offering to throw a free bash for the banned kids.
“I’m in the business for over 25 years and always put kids first,” said Gary Pincus, president of Send in the Clowns Entertainment. “Therefore, I would love to do a free carnival for all the kids that weren’t permitted to attend.”
Furthermore, he wants to hold it ASAP:
“If I had known that there were kids not allowed to attend the carnival, I would have paid for them,” he said, explaining that school carnivals are supposed to be for “all the children as a reward for getting through the school year.”
Let's hope Principal Joan Monroe takes him up and does the right thing for these kids. It won't be the same, but it'll be better than banishing and shaming them for not having $10.
Good for him! I chair our PTOs Spring Fair which is an after school fundraising event. Everyone is welcome and we are always sure to have "free" things for the kids to do in addition to selling wristbands and tickets. For the families in need (officially known only by the principal and guidance counselor) we give them wristbands and raffle basket tickets. What this school did is absolutely shameful
I feel like there just HAS to be more to this story than meets the eye. Such as permission slips to attend that were not signed which precluded them from joining. It still sucks that way, but it sucks a lot less than doing it for the money. Our affluent SD has "financial aid" for this sort of thing to prevent excluding kids who can't afford things such as field trips, etc.
It's just so obviously wrong that it can't be 100% accurate, right?
Why would you need a permission slip to attend a non-R rated movie event on school property?
Permission slip to attend the fair--slides, rides, etc. Any time my kids go to an event during the school day that is out of the norm, there is usually a permission slip to be signed (and sometimes that is in addition to the money as well). I was thinking that may have been the real reason behind the situation. But I just read up on it and it does not appear to be the case--this was truly about the money. ugh.