From Politico: “I wish that somebody would have told me in high school that I could have felt like a woman when it came time to take showers in P.E. I’m pretty sure I would have found my feminine side, and said, ‘Coach, I think I’d rather shower with the girls today,” Huckabee said to laughter and applause.
“You’re laughing because it sounds so ridiculous, doesn’t it?” Huckabee said. “And yet today, we’re the ones who are ridiculed and scorned because we point out the obvious: That there’s something inherently with forcing little children to be a part of this social experiment,” he added. “I’m not against anybody, I’d just like for somebody to bring their brain to work someday and not leave it on the bed stand when they show up to govern.”
Post by StrawberryBlondie on Jun 2, 2015 13:09:37 GMT -5
I'm going with laughter.
Look, i don't really "get" transgender-ism(?) either. And i thibk ultimately its probably a good thing that i don't understand what it's like to feel like you're the wrong biological sex. But at least i recognize its real. And not, you know,some random "i think i feel like a woman today" thought that comes and goes with the wind.
Post by downtoearth on Jun 2, 2015 13:10:35 GMT -5
That analogy about showers is what?! To show that he wanted to see pre-pubescent girls shower as a straight, male kid and that would put him in "touch with his feminine side"? Nope, he doesn't get it.
Andplusalso...I might agree about the bedstand and govern brain comment... he left his there today.
Post by cattledogkisses on Jun 2, 2015 13:11:37 GMT -5
Yes, because transgender women go through painful and invasive surgeries, hormone treatments, public harassment and ridicule all so they can ogle women in the ladies locker room.
Between this and the "Palestiine should just move" commentary he needs to go get lost somewhere.
Post by jdnotbyrider on Jun 2, 2015 13:23:51 GMT -5
Alright, time for my written part of my reply, let me take my camouflage fingerless typing gloves out of my fancy marble case, because this is going to get rough on my fingers with how hard I'm going to be smashing them. OK. *Clears throat*
First of all, WTF to the crowd response. "AHAHAHAHAHAHA, YEAH! HE SAID SOMETHING CREEPY AND UNSETTLING! STEVE HARVEY HAS NOTHING ON HIM! USA! USA! USA!"
Second of all, when it comes to gender identity, one can feel uncomfortable about their birth gender at ANY AGE. It isn't an experiment that requires tests tubes and sodium cyanide, it's an opinion and belief that they make because they don't feel right and comfortable in their own skin. So sit down Huckabee. Might as well change your name to Shuckabee, because you'd be a lot better off shucking corn then you would be in the world of politics.
He's part of the Duggar sex cult. Dude is seriously obsessed with what sex parts people have, who they want to have sex with, where and when that sex occurs, and if it's different from his own sexual urges. Hence, Huckabee and the Duggars are enamored with this concept that if you allow people to use the restroom of their self-professed gender instead of their biological sex, suddenly thousands of male sexual predators will pretend to be transgender in order to get into public restrooms with little girls. They bring it up ALL THE TIME. Who cares about the rights of others? Who cares that plenty of places (like most Starbucks) have gender-neutral restrooms and it works fine? Just let them ruminate on sexual predators, because they think about stuff like that daily anyway.
Exactly what social experiment are we talking about here? Telling kids that it's funny to scheme to shower with the opposite sex as a teenage because you are a straight ( horny) kid? Or the social experiment where we praise someone for being true to themselves, even if it took 65 fucking years to get there? Because clearly, one is conscionable, and one is contributing to the rapey "boys will be boys!" culture.
He's part of the Duggar sex cult. Dude is seriously obsessed with what sex parts people have, who they want to have sex with, where and when that sex occurs, and if it's different from his own sexual urges. Hence, Huckabee and the Duggars are enamored with this concept that if you allow people to use the restroom of their self-professed gender instead of their biological sex, suddenly thousands of male sexual predators will pretend to be transgender in order to get into public restrooms with little girls. They bring it up ALL THE TIME. Who cares about the rights of others? Who cares that plenty of places (like most Starbucks) have gender-neutral restrooms and it works fine? Just let them ruminate on sexual predators, because they think about stuff like that daily anyway.
All while harboring them in their midst! You wanna know where the sexual predators hang out, Duggers? IN YOUR HOUSE.
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I can't believe I'm about to defend Huckabee, but what was the context of this statement? Were they talking about allowing transgender students (and people in general) to use the locker rooms that they feel most comfortable with?
Because there is a valid point in there if you can get past his jokes about creeping on teenaged girls. How do you provide safe showers for transgender people and prevent random predatory people (probably dudes) from deciding they feel like using the women's shower today? Is it going to be based on how creepy other people find the transgender person? People aren't exactly open-minded about trans people as evidenced by Huckabee. Will a simple declaration be enough? Because then it's easy for people to go to the other locker rooms just to be assholes. Add in to the mix that there are people who legitimately feel male or female or neither on any given day and I think these are valid questions.
I think single stall showers are the answer but that might be so expensive that maybe it's not an option.
If Obama defended a child molester and then admitted to wanting to showering with girls, how do you think Huckabee would have responded?
This is a silly question. Russia or China could invade the U.S. and Huckabee would have to have a think about whether he should support President Obama.
No, but seriously, defending a child molester than making this shower joke.....this is someone who should be the POTUS?
I can't believe I'm about to defend Huckabee, but what was the context of this statement? Were they talking about allowing transgender students (and people in general) to use the locker rooms that they feel most comfortable with?
Because there is a valid point in there if you can get past his jokes about creeping on teenaged girls. How do you provide safe showers for transgender people and prevent random predatory people (probably dudes) from deciding they feel like using the women's shower today? Is it going to be based on how creepy other people find the transgender person? People aren't exactly open-minded about trans people as evidenced by Huckabee. Will a simple declaration be enough? Because then it's easy for people to go to the other locker rooms just to be assholes. Add in to the mix that there are people who legitimately feel male or female or neither on any given day and I think these are valid questions.
I think single stall showers are the answer but that might be so expensive that maybe it's not an option.
I think Huckabee cares not at all about the safety of trans people in showers.
Post by dawnzersong on Jun 2, 2015 14:30:18 GMT -5
Project much, Huckabee?
I don't understand why these people assume the complete strangers with whom they already share sex-segregated bathrooms aren't predators, or that a sign on the bathroom door actually offers any kind of protection against legitimate pervs.
Post by lyssbobiss, Command, B613 on Jun 2, 2015 14:32:00 GMT -5
I mean, can we just talk about what a fucking dickhole rapist he must be, to have to resort to lying just to get a glimpse of a girl's boob? I dunno man, maybe if you weren't such a walking wart, girls would willingly let you near them.
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Post by dawnzersong on Jun 2, 2015 14:33:34 GMT -5
And how is a man who's like, "Dude, I totally wish I would have schemed my way into the girls' shower when I was a teenager, hur hur" held up as an example of morality and wholesomeness for America?
What is it with the religious right and their obsession with vaginas?
Maybe if they would stop making vaginas out to be some magical cavern in the mystical pocket of a woman that should only be used for child bearing and secret man fun, they wouldnt be so fascinated by it. Just admit you're a fucking human and you like vaginas and stop projecting your vagina issues on everyone else.
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