Mass shooting at SC church

[underwaterrhymes]

Jun 18, 2015 7:38:30 GMT -5 miniroller said:

I watched an interview of a pastor of a neighboring church, who was friends with Pinckney. He kind of went off about lack of gun control in this country, & when you let crazy people purchase whatever kind of weapon they want- here ya go... Certainly not the direct focus, but it is SO exasperating, & I truly believe more & more people are realizing that. But of course, there's a big cry after a senseless tragedy & then it slowly fades into the background

If a kid can go into an elementary school and kill bunch of first graders and there is no change to gun control laws in this country, I can almost guarantee that this tragedy won't be a catalyst.

I honestly don't know what it's going to take.

[Rainyday]

He looks like he is in high school. The tag on the front looks kind of like those Mount Pleasant ones with the tree.

[DotAndBuzz]

Jun 18, 2015 7:45:05 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Jun 18, 2015 7:38:30 GMT -5 miniroller said:

I watched an interview of a pastor of a neighboring church, who was friends with Pinckney. He kind of went off about lack of gun control in this country, & when you let crazy people purchase whatever kind of weapon they want- here ya go... Certainly not the direct focus, but it is SO exasperating, & I truly believe more & more people are realizing that. But of course, there's a big cry after a senseless tragedy & then it slowly fades into the background

If a kid can go into an elementary school and kill bunch of first graders and there is no change to gun control laws in this country, I can almost guarantee that this tragedy won't be a catalyst.

I honestly don't know what it's going to take.

I just can't form a coherent response to this violence. My heart breaks for the victims and survivors. And I agree with you both, that there's a huge cry out after something like this, and then it just goes back to business as usual, because the effing NRA and gun lobby have somehow convinced people that mass shootings and such are just rare anomalies that keep happening over and over, and like "bummer man, guess we need more guns for everyone. If more people were armed, this wouldn't happen." Fuck them.

[BaliHai]

I don't even have words. I just keep shaking my head.

[cville]

This is horrible. I have no words for how hopeless this makes me feel, which cannot even approach the level of hopelessness others feel.

And I'm with you @koko. Being a violent racist doesn't mean you're de facto mentally ill. They haven't even found this person yet, so it's entirely too soon to be drawing such evidence-free conclusions.

[Elsa]

I cannot fathom the evil in this man. This is absolutely terrorism. Terrorizing our country, terrorizing our black citizens, terrorizing our church-goers.

My heart hurts for the Charleston community, and the families of the victims. I cannot imagine.

[underwaterrhymes]

Jun 18, 2015 8:10:20 GMT -5 cville said:

This is horrible. I have no words for how hopeless this makes me feel, which cannot even approach the level of hopelessness others feel.

And I'm with you @koko. Being a violent racist doesn't mean you're de facto mentally ill. They haven't even found this person yet, so it's entirely too soon to be drawing such evidence-free conclusions.

This happens all the time. White dude kills a bunch of people and there are tons of headlines about his achievements and his mental status affecting his actions. Black dude gets killed and the media and commenters are all over his history with experimenting with marijuana or how he got into trouble at school. It's fucking gross.

[SKP82]

This is heartbreaking.

[cville]

Jun 18, 2015 7:44:19 GMT -5 TR said:

Jun 18, 2015 7:40:18 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

They're not releasing the vehicle information and there is a very "distinctive tag." Any ideas on why they'd withhold this information?

This is all I've seen about the vehicle:



The only thing I could think is that the tag is maybe tied to an organization and they don't want to release that until they investigate it?

My current guess is that the "distinctive tag" they're talking about is the front tag and the back tag with the actual plate number wasn't caught on film.

[malibu]

Holy shit.

[joshlyman]

Seems like a good time for people to read this again.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5673291

[papie]

So so horrible. I have no words.

[ninjabridemom]

Jun 18, 2015 8:25:29 GMT -5 joshlyman said:

Seems like a good time for people to read this again.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5673291

Yeah I'm just waiting for people to try to reason this away.

And the fact that he'll be caught alive and have a trial, in the midst of all the media-exposed police brutality against POC for minor to NO crimes? Is pretty damn disgusting. NOT that I'm advocating for anyone to be shot for any reason but the difference in how they're treated is so stark and nauseating. 

[05heel]

Jun 18, 2015 8:51:17 GMT -5 ninjabridemom said:

Jun 18, 2015 8:25:29 GMT -5 joshlyman said:

Seems like a good time for people to read this again.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5673291

Yeah I'm just waiting for people to try to reason this away.

And the fact that he'll be caught alive and have a trial, in the midst of all the media-exposed police brutality against POC for minor to NO crimes? Is pretty damn disgusting. NOT that I'm advocating for anyone to be shot for any reason but the difference in how they're treated is so stark and nauseating. 

I can hardly wait to see the breathless media coverage on this one.  They'll mine the depths of his past for old teachers, acquaintances, friends, cute kindergarten and family vacation photos, etc. so they can wring their hands and fret about where it all.went.wrong.  Then we'll get a series of "think of the children!" mommy blog posts about how to keep more sweet white children from a similar fate. Meanwhile, a few more black people will be killed in the usual course of things, the victims will have been criminals from birth, and reporters will take a statement or two from a couple of bystanders. Then they'll take on the thankless task of dismantling the credibility of each one, piece by piece. "At 11, we'll hear from the recent parolee who claims to have seen the whole thing!!!" 

Good times all around.

[luckyval]

Looks like he's been identified

www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/18/dylann-storm-roof-charleston-church-shooting-suspect_n_7612232.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

[silva]

I'm speechless really. and tired. and sad. just really angry at our country. It's going to take generations for us to get things right.

[05heel]

Jun 18, 2015 8:13:19 GMT -5 @koko said:

And that reaction, right there, the "crazy lone wolf pyscho" vs "well yeah he shot a cop car, blacks hate cops"?? Stellas?? THAT IS WHY YOUR BULLSHIT ABOUT BEING "TRANSRACIAL" IS FUCKING OFFENSIVE. Because the way society percieves you and your race and applies their ingrained prejudices towards you in teeny or not so teeny ways everyday since you were born forms your experiences as a person of color. It's a shared experience based off something deeper than a fondness for hip hop, soul food and Toni fucking Morrison.

Oh, she knows.  She just enjoys being offensive.  Or if she doesn't enjoy it, at least feels she's well within her rights to offend whomever she pleases.  Which is fine and cute in the anonymous comment section of an internet article.  It's freaking bizarre on a board like this, where you can coyly hint at being a bigot then turn around and ask for advice on area rugs and prairie dresses.  At this point I'm more interested than offended, but fuck if I sit and explain basic concepts (that she's already aware of) like this is some kind of Sesame Street story hour.  We have colorful Muppets and fun songs that do a better job of this than my salty self can.  My specialty is namecalling and making folks uncomfortable.

[05heel]

Jun 18, 2015 9:57:45 GMT -5 TR said:

Jun 18, 2015 9:52:04 GMT -5 05heel said:

Oh, she knows.  She just enjoys being offensive.  Or if she doesn't enjoy it, at least feels she's well within her rights to offend whomever she pleases.  Which is fine and cute in the anonymous comment section of an internet article.  It's freaking bizarre on a board like this, where you can coyly hint at being a bigot then turn around and ask for advice on area rugs and prairie dresses and have people begging you to come back when you gbcn.  At this point I'm more interested than offended, but fuck if I sit and explain basic concepts (that she's already aware of) like this is some kind of Sesame Street story hour.  We have colorful Muppets and fun songs that do a better job of this than my salty self can.  My specialty is namecalling and making folks uncomfortable.

ftfy

True.  But I'll own that I also said I wanted her to come back if she felt like it. Not because I love her so much, but because I love conflict and watching fools be fools.  My motives were purely selfish.  Lol.

[pagas]

He got a fucking gun for his 21st birthday. Sickening.

[05heel]

Jun 18, 2015 10:12:31 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Jun 18, 2015 9:52:04 GMT -5 05heel said:

Oh, she knows.  She just enjoys being offensive.  Or if she doesn't enjoy it, at least feels she's well within her rights to offend whomever she pleases.  Which is fine and cute in the anonymous comment section of an internet article.  It's freaking bizarre on a board like this, where you can coyly hint at being a bigot then turn around and ask for advice on area rugs and prairie dresses.  At this point I'm more interested than offended, but fuck if I sit and explain basic concepts (that she's already aware of) like this is some kind of Sesame Street story hour.  We have colorful Muppets and fun songs that do a better job of this than my salty self can.  My specialty is namecalling and making folks uncomfortable.

look, you can't make this stuff up! I call this Grade A Prime Entertainment. I don't care if I'm the only one either.

[iammalcolmx]

Jun 18, 2015 9:52:04 GMT -5 05heel said:

Jun 18, 2015 8:13:19 GMT -5 @koko said:

And that reaction, right there, the "crazy lone wolf pyscho" vs "well yeah he shot a cop car, blacks hate cops"?? Stellas?? THAT IS WHY YOUR BULLSHIT ABOUT BEING "TRANSRACIAL" IS FUCKING OFFENSIVE. Because the way society percieves you and your race and applies their ingrained prejudices towards you in teeny or not so teeny ways everyday since you were born forms your experiences as a person of color. It's a shared experience based off something deeper than a fondness for hip hop, soul food and Toni fucking Morrison.

Oh, she knows.  She just enjoys being offensive.  Or if she doesn't enjoy it, at least feels she's well within her rights to offend whomever she pleases.  Which is fine and cute in the anonymous comment section of an internet article.  It's freaking bizarre on a board like this, where you can coyly hint at being a bigot then turn around and ask for advice on area rugs and prairie dresses.  At this point I'm more interested than offended, but fuck if I sit and explain basic concepts (that she's already aware of) like this is some kind of Sesame Street story hour.  We have colorful Muppets and fun songs that do a better job of this than my salty self can.  My specialty is namecalling and making folks uncomfortable.

I liked her for years both here and on thenest, but the latest comment was it for me. She is on my list and isn't coming off.

[anlo]

Jun 18, 2015 10:23:08 GMT -5 toledo said:

He's been caught. In NC.

Glad to hear this.

[luckyval]

Very glad to hear they got him.

I wonder if he was heading for the mountains to hide out

[underwaterrhymes]

Jun 18, 2015 10:02:06 GMT -5 pagas said:

He got a fucking gun for his 21st birthday. Sickening.

He also has Rhodesia and pro-apartheid patches on his jacket.

Guns weren't the only thing his parents gave him. Racist motherfuckers.

[captainobvious]

I'm glad he has been caught, based on what they're reporting he said, I hope he fucking rots in hell.

[SKP82]

Jun 18, 2015 10:28:35 GMT -5 @stilljustash said:

did stellas DD? i can't find the latest thing she said..?

pandce.proboards.com/thread/453955/bizarre?page=2

[eddy]

This is awful.
This week we had a teen killed in our mall because some tough guy, pro guns asshole didn't like that she wouldn't respond to his sexual advances. She reported him, he was fired from his mall security job, lol for days, so he just fucking kills her as she stood in line at chikfila. His FB page was full of guns and bible shit.

I have had it. Haaad it with these little man syndrome assholes.

[DotAndBuzz]

Jun 18, 2015 10:02:06 GMT -5 pagas said:

He got a fucking gun for his 21st birthday. Sickening.

I'm going to go out on a limb, and predict that his family/friends will be completely shocked by his actions, as he and his family were always "such responsible gun owners."

[pixy0stix]

Jun 18, 2015 10:41:32 GMT -5 @stilljustash said:

Jun 18, 2015 10:40:18 GMT -5 SKP82 said:

pandce.proboards.com/thread/453955/bizarre?page=2

oh, i thought she said something today. nm!

Give it time.

[SKP82]

They are saying he is from Lexington, SC. That's like 2 hours away from downtown Charleston.