I love whoever referred to the rest of the board as dumb dildo. Anyway, is it worth reading past page 7? That's where I got to before my brain exploded.
Ok I will read the whole thing then. If I'm not here tomorrow that will probably mean I went stark raving mad reading that thread. Or my brain really did explode.
I'm going to post the best thing that came from those 2 threads
______________________________________________________ Nonnidee wrote it.
First,allow me to confess that I've not read this thread in its entirety. So,you may have already heard what I'm about to tell you. You may have already recognized your errors. If so, thank you for being open minded.
Your statement stuck out to me as especially ignorant.
You suggest that because a person may not view the world as you do they are unlearned, you invalidated anyone whose views and experiences differ from your own.
This is not a new or rare form of thinking.
It's been a long form of perverse thinking that black people don't feel as others do. We've somehow been assigned the notion that our emotional quotient is that of a bestial level.
Ape, monkey, bull, buck we've been called.
We can't possibly know what we feel. We are to be assigned feelings
Why aren't Jewish people questioned on how the swastika represents so much pain for them ? It did not originate from Hitler, and did not always represent hatred.
Because Jewish people are people.
Just a few years ago so many objected to a mosque being near ground zero. For, THE IMAGERY WAS TOO MUCH, THE PAIN TOO REAL, TOO FRESH.
Because those were people they were allowed their grief.
But no blacks should overcome, remember they don't feel. They don't experience such complex emotions. These bulls and bucks.
They should forget that this banner was flown to protect the notion that they are property, a mere 3/5 a man. Move on from the memory of four babies burning in a church basement, and crosses burning on lawns as bodies swung from trees.
Don't they know it makes people feel bad to remember these things? Why do they keep bringing it up?
Yes these atrocities happened, but so long ago. They were spat on so long ago, why are they still wet?
These are the questions posed, as nine families buried their dead. Nine victims who weren't given their due. Who were told they died in spite of not because of.
Because of course, Roof is disturbed, a madman. (He is white, thus capable of such emotion)
He doesn't represent a centuries old way of thinking, no, surely you're mistaken. There is no such thing as systemic racism anymore.
He's just a good ol boy who took a wrong turn.
That flag represents spunk, and revolutionary spirit, nothing more.
So what if they were fighting to maintain an economy built off slave labor?
So what if there are people alive who remember their loved ones perishing beneath it?
Why does it matter if black people experience trauma at the sight of it? They'll forgive, they can't feel it's what they do.
Imagery is powerful, it penetrates one's very being. An image can make you believe just about anything. What do we trust more than own eyes?
That flag's image invokes terror and pain for so many. It's caused the death of so many.
Roof feels he rode into battle. That was his banner; that was his cause.
That alone is reason enough to rid ourselves of that image.